Unified Memory and DDR4 RAM aren't equal. These new Macs aren't using the standard RAM modules that the rest of the industry is using. The unified memory allows the GPU and CPU to quickly exchange data and eliminates the bottle neck we used to have when CPU's and GPU's needed to pass information back and forth.
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Custom Built 21.5-inch iMac with Intel Core i9 Outperforms 24-inch M1 iMac in Tests
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it would be interesting to see the load of the cores during the more “computing centric” tests. the m1 has 8 cores, but only 4 are “high performance“, while as far as i know the core i9 has 8 physical cores (with multi threading) that are not differentiated by performance. this leads me to think that possibly the m1 is effectively acting like a 4 core machine in processor intensive tasks, and this would explain the advantage of the intel processor in purely computing tests. i’ve noticed that my m1 macbook pro only uses four cores during rendering with after effects. this might be because of ram limitations (ae needs a certain amount of ram per core), but it can also be that the system doesnt even use the low energy cores for cpu heavy tasks.
edit:... and down the drain my theory goes. just ran cinebench on the m1 and all 8 cores ran at 100%
edit:... and down the drain my theory goes. just ran cinebench on the m1 and all 8 cores ran at 100%
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Just goes to show you how much $pple is ripping customers off with their prices. Youtuber even said the new iMac is just an iPad on a bigger screen. Makes sense M1 chip .
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People just get tired of these "PC" comparisons to Apple that are custom pieces together and no manufacture ever sold at the price they quote.A lot of people are missing key takeaways here. Rather than crying like the person above--why not see this as a testament to how good the new entry level M1 iMac is?
Yes the "Wintel" rules the market of building computers out of leftover hand me down pieces (or bespoke limited runs too) that were never sold by the same company at once.... but you CAN do it. When you compare Apple's machines to the similar CLASS machines from Dell, Lenovo, or HP they're only slightly higher in cost.. the main drawback being combinations that Apple just doesn't offer that might be better fir
But the i9-9900 isn't the latest. It's two generations old, and according to the Youtuber it's power-constrained in the iMac. A fairer comparison would be Tiger Lake H, or, later this year, Alder Lake (which is the first Intel CPU using a big/little configuration like the M1, and the first desktop class CPU using Intel's 10nm "superfin" process).
And it wasn’t a slaughter of the M1. My M1 Mac mini is better than my 2019 i9 iMac.
I have only skimmed the video, but in the CPU benchmarks the i9 was nearly twice as fast. Graphics performance wasn't good, but that's not because of the CPU but because the iMac uses an outdated Radeon GPU.
Thanks for the clarification. In that case, the i5 7400 draws only about 38 W under load (in the table): https://www.anandtech.com/show/1185...-lake-review-8700k-and-8400-initial-numbers/5
That's more comparable to the M1 but still at least 37% higher power draw.
I can do all those same things with my nine year old 2012 Mac Mini without a sweat.
I do not miss my i9 MBP. I have an M1 MBA while I'm waiting for the new MBPs to drop. I love that it doesn't have a fan, but I do notice that it throttles quick when I'm rendering video etc.This thread is now being drowned out by the noise of the I9's cooling system......
Did this person get paid by intel to conduct something like this? Give it up Apple is not going to change its mind to return to intel after investing money into its own Silicon where it has more whole system control over the entire package and can predict delays unlike depending on another company to deliver and then get slapped in the face due to delays.
While academic, it is fun, but to me this mainly shows:
But if they really would have maxed out configurations at fair prices, or design the equipment for easy upgrade, the perceived difference would not have been as large as it was. I always felt the underpowered Macs were the long play and part of the M1 release narrative.
- The value of upgradeability and repairability
- That Apple really has sold some rubbish configurations for what could have been (old graphics, mechanical discs in the base configurations, just to show a reasonable entry price )
But if they really would have maxed out configurations at fair prices, or design the equipment for easy upgrade, the perceived difference would not have been as large as it was. I always felt the underpowered Macs were the long play and part of the M1 release narrative.
If you are rendering video and not clips on a laptop then you are doing it wrong, push it off to an affordable headless machine would be a better use of resources. If mobile maybe use a second laptop or even a MacMini.
I hear ya.. but you are getting some pretty nice hardware , with a 23.5 inch 4.5k monitor. If these new m1 macs hold up as long as any of the IBM or Intel chips did then $1250 really ain’t that bad. In my experience Apple computers last for a while. You get what you pay for.
Cost of doubling storage on any Apple device is not aligned to market pricing is what blazerunner is possibly referring to.