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You'd think since Apple controls the software and the hardware, this would be rather easy for them. I'm very disappointed that Apple has shirked this responsibility for so long. Paying double for a similarly equipped PC should warrant a higher level of service in this front, especially since Apple products are so prone to being stolen.

I am glad to see Apple introduce the lock on the new iOS, but in my opinion it's too little, too late. They've had the means to do this forever ago, just not the wherewithal.

Paying double? How do you figure?
 
Isn't there a database out there of report stolens?

Yes, there is.

In the US if a serialized item is reported stolen to the police, the police department will (should) enter the serial number in the national NCIC database. So if a police officer finds a suspected stolen item (Macbook or otherwise) they can query NCIC stolen property records and get a hit.
 
You can't get past a firmware lock. The Genius in the Apple Store can't get past a firmware lock. The only way to open the machine is the Genius in the Apple Store calling Cupertino, with information at hand that convinces them to unlock the machine.

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You'd think since Apple controls the software and the hardware, this would be rather easy for them. I'm very disappointed that Apple has shirked this responsibility for so long. Paying double for a similarly equipped PC should warrant a higher level of service in this front, especially since Apple products are so prone to being stolen.

I am glad to see Apple introduce the lock on the new iOS, but in my opinion it's too little, too late. They've had the means to do this forever ago, just not the wherewithal.

What a bit of clueless rubbish.

The guy has a MacBook Air with firmware password set. There is no ********** way to get past the firmware password. Even the guys in an Apple Store can't do it. They have to call Cupertino to unlock it. And they won't check any "stolen computer" registry, they will check your ID and make sure you are the one who purchased it. Or evidence of purchase if you bought a used one. That's what firmware password is there for: It makes the Mac inaccessible to any thief. That functionality has been there for years.

And please, where do you get something that is "similarly equipped" to a MacBook Air for half the price?

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Jeeze..do you really want to get into this? You damn well know Macs cost more for what you get. If you can't come to grips with that then you're living in denial.

The "denial" is clearly on your side.
 
Jeeze..do you really want to get into this? You damn well know Macs cost more for what you get. If you can't come to grips with that then you're living in denial.

econ 101

Assuming no coercion or otherwise fraudulent behaviour, a sale only happens if both parties would rather have what the other guy has than what they have to trade. So if someone is willing to pay X for Y then by definition Y is worth precisely X.

Yes, you can get a laptop for much less than what you pay for an Mac. You can even get a similarly spec'd computer for less than a Mac. As it were, even putting aside the claim that you are "paying double" than you would be for a "similarly equipped PC," I would argue that it does in fact get you a "higher level of service," at least in my experience. You also get a higher quality computer. If you don't believe that to be the case then by all means do not buy one. That way if you are right, the market pressure will increase on Apple to either increase that quality or lower their price.

So no, i don't damn well know that macs cost more for what you get.
 
It's not your job to figure out if its stolen or not, or to get the property back to the rightful owners. Contact the police if you have a funny feeling about things. But don't try to be a hero and get yourself put in harms way. This isn't a movie, and you're not Vin Diesel.
 
get the authorities to carry out a mock operation on your establishment that way the crooks would not suspect that you called in the cops.
 
What a bit of clueless rubbish.

The guy has a MacBook Air with firmware password set. There is no ********** way to get past the firmware password. Even the guys in an Apple Store can't do it. They have to call Cupertino to unlock it. And they won't check any "stolen computer" registry, they will check your ID and make sure you are the one who purchased it. Or evidence of purchase if you bought a used one. That's what firmware password is there for: It makes the Mac inaccessible to any thief. That functionality has been there for years.

Good job not including the context of my response. I specifically responded to...
Isn't there a database out there of report stolens?

My response was to a database, not if Apple simply checked for an ID as you asserted in your response. By what you're saying, they can check to see if you're the person who purchased it, but they have no way to flag a serial # as being stolen. Keep your "clueless" arguments in context.

Also, your assertion that there's "no way" to get past the firmware is rather "clueless" itself. You can't seriously believe Apple has finally invented the impenetrable firmware chip (how many jailbroken iPhones are there)? If some unscrupulous person stole the device, I'm sure they wouldn't mind paying a pro to have it circumvented. Here, $150 will get you a "new" stolen MacBook:
http://jerseycityrepair.com/remove-firmware-password-macbook-air/


And please, where do you get something that is "similarly equipped" to a MacBook Air for half the price?

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The "denial" is clearly on your side.

Again, my statement was "Paying double for a similarly equipped PC", not necessarily the Air. In my case, I was thinking about my own laptop:

HP Envy M6-1225DX: i5-3230M, 8GB RAM, 750GB HDD, 15.6" LED-backlit display (1366x768), Multi DVD burner, Beats Audio, SD Card Reader 802.11b/g/n, Ethernet, 3x USB 3.0, 1x USB 2.0, 1 HDMI, 1 VGA, Windows 8. $699

MacBook Pro (non-retina): i7-3630QM, 8GB RAM, 750GB HDD, 15.6 LED-backlit display (1440 × 900), 8x Superdrive, SD Card REader, 802.11b/g/n, Ethernet, 2x USB 3.0, Firewire 800, Thunderbolt, Mac OS X. $1899

I give you the Macbook Pro has a better processor and slightly better resolution display. Firewire & Thunderbolt are of subjective usefulness. $1200 difference? Not in my book but, as DisplacedMic said, "So if someone is willing to pay X for Y then by definition Y is worth precisely X". So if you're willing to ignore the $1200 elephant in the room then by all means go ahead. However, $1200 is a hefty tax for brand loyalty.

Sorry to be combative in my response, but your namecalling and condescension weren't warranted simply because your fragile ego got hurt that I wouldn't play along with the "nothing compares to a Mac" game. I've owned plenty of Macs, probably some older than any of yours & they're still running. Some seem worth it, some don't. But please don't resort to personal attacks simply because I don't hold your world view.
 
You'd think since Apple controls the software and the hardware, this would be rather easy for them. I'm very disappointed that Apple has shirked this responsibility for so long. Paying double for a similarly equipped PC should warrant a higher level of service in this front, especially since Apple products are so prone to being stolen.

I am glad to see Apple introduce the lock on the new iOS, but in my opinion it's too little, too late. They've had the means to do this forever ago, just not the wherewithal.
  • Apple could track stolen iDevices.
  • Ford could track stolen Fords.
  • GM could track stolen Chevys, Buicks and Cadillacs.
  • Toyota could track stolen Toyotas.

All manufacturers could track their own stolen products.

What a brilliant idea.:rolleyes:
 
  • Apple could track stolen iDevices.
  • Ford could track stolen Fords.
  • GM could track stolen Chevys, Buicks and Cadillacs.
  • Toyota could track stolen Toyotas.

All manufacturers could track their own stolen products.

What a brilliant idea.:rolleyes:

You seem to miss one very important point in your attempt to belittle me - none of the devices you list require user-interactive software to operate. A physical authentication mechanicsm (key or RFID fob) is all that's required - in the world of authentication methods (3-factor being something you have, something you know, & something you are), this would be something you have. Perhaps when users have to start logging into their vehicles (something they know, that can be tracked in a database) in order drive, your argument might be valid.

Brilliant indeed. :rolleyes:
 
Thank goodness your boss has bigger stones than some here. Follow his example and work to figure out if this is stolen and get it back to the owner.
 
Hey everybody,
I work at a computer repair shop and we have a customer who will be bringing in in a 2012 macbook air that I'm 90% sure is stolen. He called us because of the firmware lock, and he did his research on how to get past it. After he couldn't figure it out he asked if we could do it.

I initially said we'd try because I've never dealt with that problem before and there are legitimate customers who have this issue. He doesn't have the restore disk, doesn't want to call apple support, and has since the initial call he has called us about 7 other macbooks he needs help fixing/restoring.

My boss wants to have him drop it off, search the drive to ensure it is stolen, and then report him to the authorities and contact apple to find the owner. This is a wonderful idea, but since the world isn't perfect I'm worried about what will happen if we do this. The guy is driving to us from an hour away, who know what he is involved with, we don't need to have gang members hitting our store. I want to report him, but am just nervous about some kind of retaliation and being that we are in Chicago, its a serious issue. What would you do?

If the guy has done his research like you say, it isn't a stretch to say that he has been on this site. Not only that, he could probably see this thread since it's on the first page. Unless you find evidence of criminal activity on the computer (and you shouldn't be going through other people's files anyway), you should just do the job and move on. There is no point of ending up on "The First 48" over a macbook.
 
Of course you should report it immediately to the police
Imagine if it was your precious laptop

He is dumb enough to bring it in for unlocking no need to be scared.
 
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