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CVS Stores Reportedly Disabling NFC to Shut Down Apple Pay and Google Wallet
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Apple Pay has no traction.
You'll feel better as a result of sending your missive, but it'll be too little too late. Target, Rite Aide, Walgreens, CVS, Sears, Walmart, Best Buy, Kmart, 7 Eleven and others have swiftly reacted to the Apple Pay situation, it's problems, complications, and walked away. The last thing these retailers need is to be unwittingly drug into a payment system abyss.
If it should be proven that there's some merit, some advantage to Apple Pay, I would think they might revisit it in another few years. Apple has staying power, there's no rush to implement Apple Pay. By taking time to review what went wrong and how it might me fixed, will be a very good lesson for Apple.
Look how easily Apple ignored it's loyal customers for two years, preventing them from having the 5.5" display they wanted so badly. The temporary failure of Apple Pay won't affect Apple.
This is Apples game, in Apples ball park. They'll continue to do what they want, when they want, and customers will praise them for it. All is well
Wow. You are sooooo wrong:
"If I’m reading this right, and I think I am, these retailers who are shutting down their NFC payment systems are validating that Apple Pay is actually working, that people are actually using it. And remember, it only works with the month-old iPhones 6. Think about what happens a year or two from now when a majority of iPhones in use are Apple Pay enabled.
Think about what they’re doing. They’re turning off NFC payment systems — the whole thing — only because people were actually using them with Apple Pay. Apple Pay works so well that it even works with non-partner systems. These things have been installed for years and so few people used them, apparently, that these retailers would rather block everyone than allow Apple Pay to continue working. I can’t imagine a better validation of Apple Pay’s appeal.
And the reason they don’t want to allow Apple Pay is because Apple Pay doesn’t give them any personal information about the customer. It’s not about security — Apple Pay is far more secure than any credit/debit card system in the U.S. It’s not about money — Apple’s tiny slice of the transaction comes from the banks, not the merchants. It’s about data.
They’re doing this so they can pursue a system that is less secure (third-party apps don’t have access to the secure element where Apple Pay stores your credit card data, for one thing), less convenient (QR codes?), and not private.
I don’t know that CVS and Rite Aid disabling Apple Pay out of spite is going to drive customers to switch pharmacies (Walgreens is an Apple Pay partner), but I do know that CurrentC is unlikely to ever gain any traction whatsoever."
Correct. This is why Apple Pay is so poorly received by businesses, especially small businesses. Apple Pay is a handout to major credit card companies because it locks in their ridiculous fees and hurts businesses.
Sorry, I am on the side of small business over Apple and their 30% cut any day.
Here's my data mining from reading MR for the past 6 days. Most MR users shop at drug stores and eat at McDonalds and their lives are overturned if they can't use Apple Pay. I can't help but wonder how they paid last week.
Really? How can you post without even reading up on Apple Pay. Educate yourself. You have no clue.
You're right, if we just hate every non Apple company, we wouldn't need a list, that makes it easier.AT&T and Verizon for not supporting the Apple Sim. To make it easier, just hate evey company that's not Apple. Unless Apple buys them, then they suddenly become good.
AT&T and Verizon for not supporting the Apple Sim. To make it easier, just hate evey company that's not Apple. Unless Apple buys them, then they suddenly become good.
Which is more irrational- Apple fans disliking other companies, or people that dislike Apple posting in Apple forums day in and day out?
I see so many people on MacRumors that only participate in negative discussions about Apple. And if the discussion is positive, they do what they can to bring it down. It's as if it pains these people to see others liking Apple and their products on an Apple forum.
Oh and by the way. I went to an apple store today and bought a new iPad air 2. Tried to pay with Apple Pay (I mean i am at an Apple store, right?) and the guy say of course they accept Apple Pay. 60 seconds later he admits he has no idea how to do it and I end up paying with plastic.
The road is long my friends. Very long.
Your post shows a complete lack of understanding the issue. Read this.
"If Im reading this right, and I think I am, these retailers who are shutting down their NFC payment systems are validating that Apple Pay is actually working, that people are actually using it. And remember, it only works with the month-old iPhones 6. Think about what happens a year or two from now when a majority of iPhones in use are Apple Pay enabled.
Think about what theyre doing. Theyre turning off NFC payment systems the whole thing only because people were actually using them with Apple Pay. Apple Pay works so well that it even works with non-partner systems. These things have been installed for years and so few people used them, apparently, that these retailers would rather block everyone than allow Apple Pay to continue working. I cant imagine a better validation of Apple Pays appeal.
And the reason they dont want to allow Apple Pay is because Apple Pay doesnt give them any personal information about the customer. Its not about security Apple Pay is far more secure than any credit/debit card system in the U.S. Its not about money Apples tiny slice of the transaction comes from the banks, not the merchants. Its about data.
Theyre doing this so they can pursue a system that is less secure (third-party apps dont have access to the secure element where Apple Pay stores your credit card data, for one thing), less convenient (QR codes?), and not private.
I dont know that CVS and Rite Aid disabling Apple Pay out of spite is going to drive customers to switch pharmacies (Walgreens is an Apple Pay partner), but I do know that CurrentC is unlikely to ever gain any traction whatsoever."
That's a real ******* move. Odds are there is nobody in that store who has the stroke to impact this issue. Any email they send on the issue will likely be quickly read and discarded. And some part time kid will have to waste their time restocking the shelves as a result of your hissy fit.
Just one post though? That’s not much commitment, heck, there are people that have posted over 50 times within a 9-10 hour window.
Now _that_ is serious dedication and time investment (especially giving up that much of your day on a Saturday)
Correct. This is why Apple Pay is so poorly received by businesses, especially small businesses. Apple Pay is a handout to major credit card companies because it locks in their ridiculous fees and hurts businesses.
Sorry, I am on the side of small business over Apple and their 30% cut any day.
I know you're being sarcastic, but
-Apple Pay is not CurrentC/MCX
-Retailers are not paying extra fees, the banks are, as tokenization transactions via TouchID NFC are currently the most secure payment method, cutting back on the fees banks eat for fraudulent transactions.
I wonder what people will begin complaining about when merchants will be required to ditch mag strip POS systems in Oct 2015 or risk eating fraudulent transactions as banks will not cover transactions unless EMV/chip+PIN/NFC transactions are used.
I will believe this when I see it. I'm sure the banks will find away to pass this fee along to the merchants.
I know the outpouring here is just crazy, I'm sure you can still pay by credit card and cash, but nobody wants to anymore.
Just like people used to like Bose, but now they hate them.
Me, I'm im just chilling out listening to U2, oops.
You forgot the Worst Buy. We can't hate Walmart yet until they turn off all NFC terminals but for now Apple Pay works at those.
Rite Aid is East Coast/New England. Very common up here. We get all our prescriptions from them but when I finally get my iPhone 6+ I am going to try to do all my retail purchases with it, so I might switch to another pharmacy.
We just have Kinney's, Rite Aid and now CVS up here. Walgreen's is an hour away in Littleton, NH. I don't know what choices I'll have.
We are getting a Wal Mart next year, but I don't know if they will accept Apple Pay.
Just one post though? Thats not much commitment, heck, there are people that have posted over 50 times within a 9-10 hour window.
Now _that_ is serious dedication and time investment (especially giving up that much of your day on a Saturday)
I feel like a fail!
No they won't.... They just will put these in spam box... Few hundred emails is hardly even make them consider...
You would impressed hundreds people could actual boycott these retail chains. There are far more retail store not supporting Apple Pay than store accepting Apple Pay. Would you want boycott every store?
I am iPhone 6 owner and I am living in Canada. If Apple Pay comes to Canada, I will happy to use Apple Pay. If one store choice not to, I would care less. You would still need carry your wallet anyway. Given it is almost 100% that you gonna need your credit card some way or other.
That's simply fear mongering and mindless intimidation tactics. I think you'd be amazed at how many places are cash only and doing quite well.
The credit card companies would like to make merchants believe that little mind game. However, many companies have built extremely successful businesses without accepting credit cards. In my area, it has become such a successful strategy, that only the big box stores and national chains accept credit cards, and the local merchants easily steal business from them with better prices because they aren't paying credit card processing fees.
I wonder if Apple Pay included at least the customer name, if the merchants would've felt the need to turn it off.
Yep, that's partly why the banks are paying Apple... because Apple Pay allows them to continue to collect data and sell it, as they do now.
It's understandable that merchants don't want to lose the same kind of info.
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Why disable it? CurrentC says if you use their system, you are not allowed to use any other program.
I just left feedback on their website, making it known to them that they have lost my business as long as this policy is in place. I'd recommend everyone here do the same:
http://www.cvs.com/help/email-customer-relations.jsp?callType=store&topicid=200018
http://www.cvs.com/help/email-customer-relations.jsp?callType=store&topicid=200018
If consumers want to win this battle....they have to move the issue to privacy/security. I'm usually not an advocate of big government or more legislation, but I have a serious concern about a MORE secure method of payment being blocked for a less secure magnetic strip version (see Target hack) and even more questionable proprietary system being created by the people who people who already got my data breached.
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