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Here's my data mining from reading MR for the past 6 days. Most MR users shop at drug stores and eat at McDonalds and their lives are overturned if they can't use Apple Pay. I can't help but wonder how they paid last week.

This is not about today, or tomorrow, or next week.

This is about who owns the future of cashless payments. Whether it's a company who understands that the problem needed to be addressed from a standpoint of convenience, privacy and security, or a series of companies who want to prevent that from happening, and continue to use your transactions against you.

But you knew that already...
 
That's simply fear mongering and mindless intimidation tactics. I think you'd be amazed at how many places are cash only and doing quite well.

The credit card companies would like to make merchants believe that little mind game. However, many companies have built extremely successful businesses without accepting credit cards. In my area, it has become such a successful strategy, that only the big box stores and national chains accept credit cards, and the local merchants easily steal business from them with better prices because they aren't paying credit card processing fees.

Name one single national retailer that is cash only. Just name one.
 
Maybe the retail stores are disabling apple pay because they don't want to pay an additional processing fee to apple. If this is the case and I support cvs and the rest of the stores

Yet another person writing uninformed rot like this? This has been answered and debunked on most of the pages of this thread.

There are no extra fees, they are being charged the same fee as they are being charged right now to accept credit cards, they are using the same payment systems as they are right now through the same payment company they are right now. This costs the retailer no more and no less than it does to accept a credit card and swipe it.
 
Oh and by the way. I went to an apple store today and bought a new iPad air 2. Tried to pay with Apple Pay (I mean i am at an Apple store, right?) and the guy say of course they accept Apple Pay. 60 seconds later he admits he has no idea how to do it and I end up paying with plastic.

The road is long my friends. Very long.

It worked at my apple store. Bummer it didn't work for you.
 
There are quite a few merchants listed on the Merchant Exchange site that were also mentioned in Apple's keynote as supporting Apple Pay. So are they going to support both?

What sucks is, pretty much every store I shop at regularly around here are all listed on the Merchant Exchange site. While I'm still waiting for my bank to support Apple Pay, I wonder if I'll ever be able to use the damn thing.

Or we could just wait for Apple to buy MCX and end this whole debacle.
 
Yeah I think its time for the Government to start looking at Apple's business practices. Apple is starting to get too big .


Apple has, for quit some time, been under closer, constant scrutiny than any other company.

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But irrelevant. With retailers choosing to be part of CurrenC - they save millions a year.



So it's ok that Apple takes money from credit card companies, but not retailers?



If retailers want to take on that risk - that's their right and decision.


Are retailers taking the risk? Or are they going to push it onto the customer. Will CurrentC users find that they are responsible for any fraudulent use of their account?
 
This has to stop with overemphasis on an Apple phone. It's like there'll be a future when Apple supplies chips the we get surgically implanted.
 
You nailed it!

You are right, Apple Pay is by far much more secure than CurrentC, retailers just hate not getting the customer data. For this specific reason and to the best of my abilities, I have switched already to Walgreens even though I was a CVS customer for over a decade. I will never use their third party app designed to save merchants money as it will never be secure like Apple Pay and it is designed to take offers and coupons directly to me because of how I shopped. I refuse this system and I am willing to bet CurrentC will not pick up and will slowly die off or merge somehow with Apple Pay.

By the way, on the CurrentC website, they say that it's a mobile payment that directly debits from your checking... Please, how do I get my miles? The safety of chargeback if the transaction is not mine or better if the product is defective. Amex guarantees all this for me... CurrentC will NOT.

Their system is just a bad idea for everyone especially consumers. This idea needs to be killed off before it starts.


Your post shows a complete lack of understanding the issue. Read this.

"If I’m reading this right, and I think I am, these retailers who are shutting down their NFC payment systems are validating that Apple Pay is actually working, that people are actually using it. And remember, it only works with the month-old iPhones 6. Think about what happens a year or two from now when a majority of iPhones in use are Apple Pay enabled.

Think about what they’re doing. They’re turning off NFC payment systems — the whole thing — only because people were actually using them with Apple Pay. Apple Pay works so well that it even works with non-partner systems. These things have been installed for years and so few people used them, apparently, that these retailers would rather block everyone than allow Apple Pay to continue working. I can’t imagine a better validation of Apple Pay’s appeal.

And the reason they don’t want to allow Apple Pay is because Apple Pay doesn’t give them any personal information about the customer. It’s not about security — Apple Pay is far more secure than any credit/debit card system in the U.S. It’s not about money — Apple’s tiny slice of the transaction comes from the banks, not the merchants. It’s about data.

They’re doing this so they can pursue a system that is less secure (third-party apps don’t have access to the secure element where Apple Pay stores your credit card data, for one thing), less convenient (QR codes?), and not private.

I don’t know that CVS and Rite Aid disabling Apple Pay out of spite is going to drive customers to switch pharmacies (Walgreens is an Apple Pay partner), but I do know that CurrentC is unlikely to ever gain any traction whatsoever."
 
Tried to use Apple Pay at CVS*******

So I went to CVS after I read this. I loaded up my shopping cart to the max from accessories from all around the store, then I went to check out with my iPhone using Apple Pay. They said they just turned off their NFC terminals and I wouldn't be able to pay.

So I said "Well, I only have my phone with me, I guess I will get all this stuff at Walgreens instead"...... So I just left and went to Walgreens.

I hope they think long and hard about the inconvenience this has caused when they are restocking all of their shelves with the items in my cart.
 
I wonder if Apple Pay included at least the customer name, if the merchants would've felt the need to turn it off.

I don't think the merchants care much about the customer name. I think MCX's appeal to them is to eliminate credit card merchant fees, and replace them with a small ACH fee per transaction.

But, unless they pass significant savings to the consumer, I don't think MCX is going to get uptake from consumers. There's too much perceived danger in giving a group of merchants unrestricted access to withdraw from your checking account.

I use a Lowe's credit card instead of a VISA to purchase from Lowe's -- because they offer me a 5% discount off every purchase. But, I pay that with online check payment. 5% isn't enough for me to risk grant Lowe's the authority to withdraw from my checking account.
 
Just one post though? That’s not much commitment, heck, there are people that have posted over 50 times within a 9-10 hour window.

Now _that_ is serious dedication and time investment (especially giving up that much of your day on a Saturday) :D

Well, you know, Apple Pay customers keep saying how much they want to save time... Apparently, they are either not really worried about how much time being an Apple Pay customer really costs them, or they need to save time at the register so they can get back to momma's basement and get back to defending their almighty underdog / A.K.A. the most powerful company in the world (make up your minds people).
 
No they won't.... They just will put these in spam box... Few hundred emails is hardly even make them consider...

You would impressed hundreds people could actual boycott these retail chains. There are far more retail store not supporting Apple Pay than store accepting Apple Pay. Would you want boycott every store?

I am iPhone 6 owner and I am living in Canada. If Apple Pay comes to Canada, I will happy to use Apple Pay. If one store choice not to, I would care less. You would still need carry your wallet anyway. Given it is almost 100% that you gonna need your credit card some way or other.

It's one thing if a store does not want to spend the money to put touchless payment hardware in place. It's quite another when a company decides to disable something that they offered before simply because they want to protect their less desirable option. They cared not one bit when the NFC terminals only served Google Wallet. But they view Apple Pay as a threat to their evil plans (Yes, wanting to protect their data mining scheme is evil).
 
Well, you know, Apple Pay customers keep saying how much they want to save time... Apparently, they are either not really worried about how much time being an Apple Pay customer really costs them, or they need to save time at the register so they can get back to momma's basement and get back to defending their almighty underdog / A.K.A. the most powerful company in the world (make up your minds people).

That's funny because what I see them saying is they want to reduce risk, not save time.
 
Yeah, everyone's claiming that NFC is the revolutionary part. :rolleyes:

No, the revolutionary part of :apple:Pay is the first implementation of EMVCo's tokenization standard.

NFC is just the connection between the phone and the merchant's terminal. It's been used for years for contactless cards. And to the merchant, the iPhone looks like a contactless card.
 
I know the outpouring here is just crazy, I'm sure you can still pay by credit card and cash, but nobody wants to anymore.
Just like people used to like Bose, but now they hate them.
Me, I'm im just chilling out listening to U2, oops.

You've been outpouring with the rest of us. So, I guess your part of the "problem" then... Most people didn't mind getting the U2 tracks (average, not great), MacRumors was certainly not the center of bitching on that subject.

If you chilling, why on earth are you on this forum and listening to U2. Shouldn't you be listening to Dead Kennedys or some other punk band... That's the way I chill ;-).
 
So I went to CVS after I read this. I loaded up my shopping cart to the max from accessories from all around the store, then I went to check out with my iPhone using Apple Pay. They said they just turned off their NFC terminals and I wouldn't be able to pay.

So I said "Well, I only have my phone with me, I guess I will get all this stuff at Walgreens instead"...... So I just left and went to Walgreens.

I hope they think long and hard about the inconvenience this has caused when they are restocking all of their shelves with the items in my cart.

Except that the store employees have no say over whether or not they can turn on the NFC terminals. I guarantee you that anybody who could actually make such a decision will never know you did that. So what did you really accomplish?

When it comes down to it, you're doing more harm than good. On a smaller scale, that includes this thread. You've given ammo to the seething Apple haters that are just dying to spin this whole NFC thing into something that makes Apple look bad. And really, if what you're doing becomes commonplace, who can blame them?
 
So I went to CVS after I read this. I loaded up my shopping cart to the max from accessories from all around the store, then I went to check out with my iPhone using Apple Pay. They said they just turned off their NFC terminals and I wouldn't be able to pay.

So I said "Well, I only have my phone with me, I guess I will get all this stuff at Walgreens instead"...... So I just left and went to Walgreens.

I hope they think long and hard about the inconvenience this has caused when they are restocking all of their shelves with the items in my cart.

You mean that you're expecting a minimum wage kid to think more of you than "what a pathetic loser?"

Congratulations, you sure showed that High School kid exactly how immature an adult could be. Way to go... you've shown them what they don't want to be when they grow up.
 
That's funny because what I see them saying is they want to reduce risk, not save time.
Reducing risk is literally all I care about with Apple Pay. Having been a victim of identity theft twice, I'm in big favor of what Apple is trying to do.


You mean that you're expecting a minimum wage kid to think more of you than "what a pathetic loser?"

Congratulations, you sure showed that High School kid exactly how immature an adult could be. Way to go... you've shown them what they don't want to be when they grow up.
Lol. Yeah ... CVS employees ≠ CVS.
 
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