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Realistically, what are the chances that CurrentC apps are rejected from both the Apple and Google app stores? The overwhelming majority of smartphone users use either iOS or Android. This CurrentC is entirely reliant on a smartphone app. If Apple and Google were to both reject the app, they could destroy the service all on their own. It would gain no traction because no one would be able to get it on their phones. What are the odds Apple and Google both do this?

Hehe...:p
 
There are certain leaps in life that are larger and have more effect than others.

For example: The adoption from VHS to DVD was significant. So much so that DVDs are STILL being sold. The jump from DVD to Blu Ray wasn't so rapid or widely accepted.

Cash to credit/debit cards was huge. I don't think it will be the same for NFC/Apple Pay. Too many obstacles to overcome. You have to have a certain phone, the merchant has to accept it, the bank has to support that card bla bla.

The reason Blu Ray never took off was because streaming movies superseded it. They barely learned how to walk before getting cut down with a more convenient technology - why continue devoting money to establish something that's going to eventually fail? DVDs are still available because there's people out there that wish to own their media instead of borough it, but it's still dying. It really wasn't that long ago streaming took over. This example though has little to do with NFC payments catching on or not.

You also forget that majority of phones sold today (Android) are NFC capable.
 
MCX made them sign an exclusivity deal. It makes sense financially for the companies to not use Apple pay anyway.
The thing is, Apple Pay doesn't go against any such deal, it is merely a way for the consumer to avoid swiping a card. You are still paying with a Visa or AmEx.

These 2 pharmacies have turned off their NFC readers to spite...someone. I'm not really sure what they are thinking, it's insane, really. People in this thread have been complaining about childish behavior by posters when it started because of childish behavior from major corporations. I'm betting next week will see some interesting repercussions.
 
It costs like $650 for unlocked which is what other high end smartphones also cost.

It costs like $200 for a 2 year contract which is what other high end smartphones also cost.

In fact, I got mines for free (actually a lot of people did) because everyone was offering iPhone trade in promotions.

Please! Who are you trying to fool? A thousand bucks out of pocket or 2000+ with a 2-year contract. Swiping a card is free.
 
Please! Who are you trying to fool? A thousand bucks out of pocket or 2000+ with a 2-year contract. Swiping a card is free.

God damn, the level of....

Not going to even try.

Here's your original post. I'll let you think it over for yourself. Maybe you'll get it.

The problem with Applepal is that it's ridiculously expensive for consumers - one needs a $1000 phone to make it work.
 
Stopped shopping cvs when they discontinued tobacco. Walgreens got my business. Cvs should not be in the business of deciding what I can or cannot buy or if it's good or not good for ME, THAT IS MY DECISION!:D
 

Wow, this says it all. Apple does it's homework. Doesn't jump on every new thing. But if they see they can make something work, they implement it like no other. Get on board, or get left behind.

And thank you to the CVS and Right Aid executives who turned off Working NFC for all users. Without you MCX and CurrentC would not have been so exposed and examined revealing the security flaws and data mining motives.
 
The reason Blu Ray never took off...

No matter how many times you repeat a falsehood, it's still a falsehood.

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http://fortune.com/2014/09/09/apple-pay-what-the-analysts-are-saying/

http://amigobulls.com/articles/apple-payments-to-enhance-apple-eco-system

Oh for Apple it's not HUGE money now is it - but I'm sure most business would love to have an estimated $500M-1B in revenue added each year...

Ok so that's not really hand over fist is it? This past quarter Apple posted $42B in revenue. $500M-$1B is peanuts. Pay is all about getting people to buy more iOS devices, not about making a ton of money off the service itself.
 
Please! Who are you trying to fool? A thousand bucks out of pocket or 2000+ with a 2-year contract. Swiping a card is free.

The latest technology is never free. No one's forcing you to use it. Spend your money however you want to and I'll spend my money how I want to.
 
Realistically, what are the chances that CurrentC apps are rejected from both the Apple and Google app stores? The overwhelming majority of smartphone users use either iOS or Android. This CurrentC is entirely reliant on a smartphone app. If Apple and Google were to both reject the app, they could destroy the service all on their own. It would gain no traction because no one would be able to get it on their phones. What are the odds Apple and Google both do this?

Realistically it's not a very secure method of payment. It's almost designed to fail. All it's going to take is one high profile data leak or hack and it will fold upon itself. Question is:does Apple want to wait for this to happen or kill it right now? I think this is probably something Apple wants to negotiate before allowing it in the App Store. It could easily be rejected based up:

3.1
Apps or metadata that mentions the name of any other mobile platform will be rejected

8.3
Apps that appear confusingly similar to an existing Apple product, interface, or advertising theme will be rejected

11.2
Apps utilizing a system other than the In-App Purchase API (IAP) to purchase content, functionality, or services in an App will be rejected

11.2 pretty much kills it.
 
This reminds me of DIVX from the 90s—an abuse of a technology designed by a legal/financial team for nefarious corporate gains wrapped up in the flimsiest customer marketing push.

When the movie industry replaced the "digital copy" included in BluRays with a download of an ultraviolet version, i stopped buying blurays. And many people did. The movie industry had decided they wanted consumers to consume the industry's way, and they lost.

History tends to repeat itself...
 
Reminds me a bit of the battle between Bluray and HD DVD 6 years ago :D
And the fight starts in 3.... 2..... 1
 
When the movie industry replaced the "digital copy" included in BluRays with a download of an ultraviolet version, i stopped buying blurays. And many people did. The movie industry had decided they wanted consumers to consume the industry's way, and they lost.

History tends to repeat itself...

Companies like Tsrget. That have been hit by hackers and lost millions In business turned their back on ApplePay and instead decided toenail for an unproven system
Blatant stupidly And while CVS hasn't been hit by hackers their customers feel cheated of the convenience and s fruity they should have

CALL CORPORATE COMPLAIN
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If you don't trll Bergen they'll think everythings OK
 
Maybe I don't understand all the technologies and economics and politics. But won't CVS and Rite-Aid be required to turn their NFC readers back on in October 2015 in order to accept EMV contactless payments?
 
Went to Rite Aid today. Filled a basket with stuff and walked up to the cashier and tried to pay with my phone. When it did not work I left it all on the counter and told them that they just lost a sales and a customer.

Will do the same at CVS tomorrow.


Everyone should do this. They need to understand that refusing to take money the way I want to give it will indeed cost them revenue.

Ha! This makes me want to go get an iPhone 6! Bravo!
 
Please! Who are you trying to fool? A thousand bucks out of pocket or 2000+ with a 2-year contract. Swiping a card is free.

Are you really saying the price to use Apple Pay is the price to buy an iphone? You would use it for anything else? That would be like saying the cost of a carwash is $30,000 because you would need to buy a car to wash.
 
Unless there is some incentive for consumers to use this CurrentC app to make purchases in stores, I doubt most of them will start letting merchants pull from their checking account, netting no perks. Additionally any incentives provided by these merchants (e-coupons, etc) to use the CurrentC app will negate the 2-3% credit card fees they are trying to make up for. In order for CurrentC to be used as a leverage against credit card companies, CurrentC has to have the potential to decrease their bottom line. Unless tens of thousands of people start using CurrentC, instead of swiping their credit cards (which isn't going to happen), then how can merchants use CurrentC as leverage to reduce credit card transaction fees?

Most people will always use credit/charge cards. Only a small percentage will use phones as their payment system. This small percentage isn't going to be enough for these merchants to "stick it" to credit card companies in an attempt to reduce transaction fees.

Unless I'm missing something... there's a snowballs chance that I'll be using this CurrentC app vs using my credit/charge card. At the end of the day, credit card transaction fees are simply part of the cost of doing business.
 
Totally agree. I'm 22 and I have never in my life signed for anything when paying by card. It's always been chip & pin which is far more secure and quicker. Infact a lot of places I just place my card on the terminal and it's paid for using NFC.

When I was in school and worked as a waiter at a certain nice fine dining restaurant for around 5 years every time an American was in and wanted to pay by card I was literally like 'oh great here we go' - literally had customers from everywhere on earth yet it was the yanks that still sign their receipts. Why? I have no idea, as I sure as hell can't be bothered checking the signature.

I actually think something like Apple Pay would have been better hitting the UK first, it's actually pretty quick at adopting this sort of thing and everyone here has an iPhone (so many would upgrade to a 6). I'd say 60% of the places I shop at support NFC cards and I know most would love to pay using their iPhone.

Lets hope this isn't like iTunes Radio which hit the US and never crossed the pond. The sooner Apple Pay arrives in the UK the sooner I'll be inclined to upgrade.


The annoying thing is Google Wallet is still only available in the States, yet Europe and Asia have a far larger adoption rate for NFC payments. It could have become a dominant NFC payment option given the huge % of android devices in Europe.
 
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