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I weekly from my customers collect thousands in cash and occasionally a check or two a month.. I work as a contractor in high end homes and even the wealthy love a cash discount. I've done large commercial jobs and collected envelopes of cash.. Cash is king and no amount of someone telling you that cc is better matters because when I walk in and tell you its 5000 for check or 4500 for cash almost every customer in the last 20 years picks the cash deal. And so would you.

Yes I would, but you're not really a merchant. You're a service provider in that case. And if you're offering a 10% cash discount over cheques, that's odd. Unless you are fudging your books, there's NO WAY a cheque costs you 10%.
 
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My mother was once barred from purchasing beauty products from a supply store because she did not have a license. In retaliation, she would go into the store, pick out many random things and attempt to checkout. When she was denied, she would just walk out. Eventually they started selling to her because they grew tired of restocking all of the merchandise.

I wonder what effect this would have on CVS & Rite Aid if people started randomly picking out items and attempting to pay with Apple Pay. When they are denied, they should just walk out and leave the employees to restock the merchandise. I think that this could get the message across rather quickly.

To refuse a system of payment that actually works on the existing system seems counterproductive to me. That message needs to be sent, any way possible.
 
Thanks....he doesn't seem to understand exactly what I said.. Seems my clarification wasn't clear enough... I have never been in a strip club in my life...I have 3,daughters and would be ashamed to even think about someone having to dance for me for money..although seems like someone frequents them and knows how the drug trade works.
I don't know about the drug trade works, but I expect they don't give receipts or collect (and then pay) sales tax, and I expect they don't report the income when they file their federal taxes.

When I was a teenager I did some odd jobs for a guy who had a picture framing business. He said "I can pay you by check, and take out taxes, or I can pay you in cash." I took the cash.

For everyone like you who deals only in cash, but gives itemized receipts, keeps scrupulous records, pays all taxes owed, checks i-9 forms, and follows all other legal requirements for running a business, I think there are a dozen who use cash to avoid a record of the transaction.
 
None of that matters. Rite Aid engaged in a failed marketing opportunity off the backs of Breast Cancer survivors. Sorry if I play the smallest violin. If they were really trying to do something to benefit the community they would do this without the media hype.

The bottom line is you dont piss off the customers. They thought they could use the Breat Cancer media to shield themselves from criticism and it didnt work.

Only you completely ignore the fact that their campaign and appearance was planned long before NFC was disabled.

Look What they did was dumb. In their best interest they assumed no doubt. But that doesn't excuse people being tacky either.
 
I don't know about the drug trade works, but I expect they don't give receipts or collect (and then pay) sales tax, and I expect they don't report the income when they file their federal taxes.

When I was a teenager I did some odd jobs for a guy who had a picture framing business. He said "I can pay you by check, and take out taxes, or I can pay you in cash." I took the cash.

For everyone like you who deals only in cash, but gives itemized receipts, keeps scrupulous records, pays all taxes owed, checks i-9 forms, and follows all other legal requirements for running a business, I think there are a dozen who use cash to avoid a record of the transaction.
so basically people use cash in many cases to break the law.

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Only you completely ignore the fact that their campaign and appearance was planned long before NFC was disabled.

Look What they did was dumb. In their best interest they assumed no doubt. But that doesn't excuse people being tacky either.

I dont agree. People can comment how they see fit and you and I will deal. They put it up to be commented on and people did. Get over it.
 
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After 2,400+ posts on MR and the bad publicity in the mainstream press and on social media that has landed on Rite Aid and CVS, I fully expect that these companies will reverse course soon at least in the short term.

If MCX can't stand on its own merit and co-exist alongside Apple Pay and Google Wallet, it will be a complete non-starter. The next several weeks will be very interesting.
 
No it is not cost. Apple gets its fee from the credit card company. The credit card company saves money on decreased fraudulent purchases, so they don't have to charge as large a fee and they can still make more money.

This is about losing access to customer data. That is the main thing.

The secondary thing though is a costs issue. But I don't think it is the driving force here. Even though credit card companies aren't going to charge more for Apple Pay purchases, and they might even charge less, the stores would prefer to not pay that fee at all. They like cash transactions and Apple Pay is likely to decrease the number of cash transactions and increase the number of credit card transactions. This will result in more fees even though it has nothing to do with Apple taking a cut.

I'm sure by iOS9 Apple will have solved the customer data thing by upgrading Passbook to include NFC based loyalty cards.

Also do credit card transaction really cost more?
If your a large chain it's not like you can pay your suppliers or staff with the cash you hold in the till. Not to mention over time your loose change is going to turn in to large notes that aren't much use to you till you bank them. Factor in time to deal the bank, security and the like and cash isn't free by any means.
 
My brother-in-law works in law-enforcement and has dealt a lot with fraud. He would never recommend using debit cards and has told me numerous times to use a credit card whenever I can. The only time I use a debit card is when I need to get cash from an ATM. Why would I want to give a consortium of merchants access to my bank account number, routing number, and Social Security number? I wouldn't and I won't.
 
Did they accept them for a week and then stop to promote an as yet not generally available worse form of payment? Also, I can use MCX or VISA there. At CVS I can't use any type of NFC payment. Your analogy doesn't hold water.

But you couldn't use ApplePay a week ago, and I doubt many in this thread were using Google Wallet. And you can still use credit cards at CVS.
 
Just tried.

Well, I thought I was at a Walgreens (I rally don't pay much attention to which is which).

Anyways, the NFC part worked, but the card was declined.

I guess I will have to start paying attention.
 
After 2,400+ posts on MR and the bad publicity in the mainstream press and on social media that has landed on Rite Aid and CVS, I fully expect that these companies will reverse course soon at least in the short term.

If MCX can't stand on its own merit and co-exist alongside Apple Pay and Google Wallet, it will be a complete non-starter. The next several weeks will be very interesting.

There needs to be legislation blocking the MCX for this maybe there should be a petition on Obamas website.
 
My brother-in-law works in law-enforcement and has dealt a lot with fraud. He would never recommend using debit cards and has told me numerous times to use a credit card whenever I can. The only time I use a debit card is when I need to get cash from an ATM. Why would I want to give a consortium of merchants access to my bank account number, routing number, and Social Security number? I wouldn't and I won't.

The reason of for that "recommendations" is the fact you can skim the cards (no pin even!!) and the retailers back-end is CRAP.

If the access was actually secure, you could use debit without issue. If there is never un unencrypted info available to someone trying to tamper with the terminal and they can't even film you typing in your pin, there isn't much left for them to do.
 
Yes I would, but you're not really a merchant. You're a service provider in that case. And if you're offering a 10% cash discount over cheques, that's odd. Unless you are fudging your books, there's NO WAY a cheque costs you 10%.
Actually I can turn a check into cash for 3% but the 10% discount almost guarantees they will take the cash deal.
 
There needs to be legislation for this maybe there should be a petition on Obamas website.

I personally don't think legislation is necessary. The private sector (and the general public) will sort this out in fairly short order, I suspect.
 
I don't know much about American's pharmacy, but seeing this makes me think of Michael Dell's infamous quote. "I would shut this pharmacy down and and give the money back to the shareholders."
 
For me it is and it isn't. Until ApplePay started being discussed, I had no idea there were possibilities that more secure CC transactions were possible. Now that I know (and have experienced the quickness of ApplePay) I'm annoyed that other merchants are going out of their way to disable it for their own scheme.

If given the choice of payment methods at competing merchants, I will choose the NFC supporting merchant, not because it's Apple Pay, but because now I know it's more secure.

Good points.

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Yeah so? What's your point, that retailers can jerk around consumers if something is new?

Because I personally don't think the people complaining here are doing it because of a retailer jerking them around.

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No I can't. I'm not going to CVS.

Then don't. :)

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No, it's best for stores to stop jerking customers around. We didn't have stores taking away our choice two weeks ago. You are all focused on the use of Apple Pay. That not the issue. It's taking away NFC that was there and working, whether or not that method was there a month ago. And guess what, NFC was there a month ago. Again, you just don't get it. I have never completed an Apple pay transaction despite having the capability to do so. I just don't want stores removing a capability for spite.

What about the things that Apple hasn't done or removed to give their customers less choice and lock them down? I think I get it just fine. :)
 
Cash is great for buying illegal drugs, for tipping exotic dancers, and other "personal services". You don't want to explain to the person from Hyderbad that yes, Mona the Dominatrix, inc. (or Jack the High Colonic Plumber) is a valid charge when the credit card company flags it as possibly fraudulent.

Just following the logic:

A=B=C, so therefore, A="Banana Split with socks on it"
 
Actually I can turn a check into cash for 3% but the 10% discount almost guarantees they will take the cash deal.

My bank charges me nothing to deposit cheques, if you're paying even 3% you're paying far too much. Heck, credit card fees aren't that high. Some business accounts charges a few pennies per CHEQUE but no way 3% or even 1%.
 
I had collision work done on my convertible in July. The body shop accepts cash or check. No credit cards at all. They do not deal with the insurance company. Adjuster was welcome to inspect the car there of course.

The work was excellent. I paid with a personal check. If I wished there was an option to endorse the insurance check to the body shop.

Prior to getting an estimate at this body shop I went to one of the insurance company's anointed shops. The estimate there was higher than my body shop and it was not a complete collision repair.

Nice deal for the anointed body shop. Under repair the car. Overcharge the insurance company.

I admit I was surprised to find a business that did not accept cc. The shop was recommended by a trusted mechanic who has serviced the car for years.

Unusual but it does happen.

To reply on topic, you should only use a body shop that accepts ApplePay. :D:D
 
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