I have had my 1.8 for only two weeks when the new one came out. I don't really care that much since I really like the machine I bought, I mean sure a dual would probably give the machine a bit more longevity, but I am happy with it now, and I don't think there is going ot be a change in my computing habits in the near future that is going to change that.
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DAMN IT! I Got ripped off!
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All of You, Quit Complaining!!!
As a previous poster said, welcome to the computer world!!!
What are you upset about? Is your machine any slower now? No, it is not. Will it still do everything you need it to? Yes. You bought it because you could afford it and it had enough power to do what you need - otherwise, you would've bought the Dual 2.0. So the machine still suits your need, and you obviously don't need a DP machine or you would've bought a DP 2.0. So what are you complaining about?
Is this a "top-of-the-line" issue? You wanted a near top-of-the-line machine and now it's been upgraded? Again, welcome to the computer world!
Or are you upset that for a couple hundred $s more you could've got this new DP 1.8? Well what is your current 1.8 worth? Crap? I don't think so.
Technology changes. Steve Jobs had to announce the DP 1.8 at some point, so there are always going to be some people who just miss out.
So what would've happened if you bought the Dual 1.8s? In 2 months @ MWSF, when the whole line sees speed bumps and the slowest G5 PowerMac is a 2.0 GHz, would you be complaining then, because you could've bought a 2.5 GHz G5 (or whatever) for the same amount you spent on your DP 1.8?
People like you are never happy. You always want the latest and greatest and want it to last forever. You don't realize technology changes rapdily in this day and age. And you're not happy with what you have. Is your single 1.8 broken now? Will it no longer perform the tasks you initially bought it for?
Listen, I'm buying a nice 17" iMac. Know why? Because it does everything I could ever want it to, thanks to iLife, and Panther, and I don't need a G5, let alone dual G5s. Do you absolutely need DP 1.8s? Do have any remote idea how powerful they are?
Poor you, with a lowly 1.8 GHz G5. Man, that's too bad, you have a horrible machine there. Guess what - in 2 years, when the G6s, or 4 GHz PMs come out, or whatever - a 1.8 GHz G5 machine is still going to be able to do everything it can today and is still going to be a pretty nice machine, all things considered.
Kay, I'm done....
As a previous poster said, welcome to the computer world!!!
What are you upset about? Is your machine any slower now? No, it is not. Will it still do everything you need it to? Yes. You bought it because you could afford it and it had enough power to do what you need - otherwise, you would've bought the Dual 2.0. So the machine still suits your need, and you obviously don't need a DP machine or you would've bought a DP 2.0. So what are you complaining about?
Is this a "top-of-the-line" issue? You wanted a near top-of-the-line machine and now it's been upgraded? Again, welcome to the computer world!
Or are you upset that for a couple hundred $s more you could've got this new DP 1.8? Well what is your current 1.8 worth? Crap? I don't think so.
Technology changes. Steve Jobs had to announce the DP 1.8 at some point, so there are always going to be some people who just miss out.
So what would've happened if you bought the Dual 1.8s? In 2 months @ MWSF, when the whole line sees speed bumps and the slowest G5 PowerMac is a 2.0 GHz, would you be complaining then, because you could've bought a 2.5 GHz G5 (or whatever) for the same amount you spent on your DP 1.8?
People like you are never happy. You always want the latest and greatest and want it to last forever. You don't realize technology changes rapdily in this day and age. And you're not happy with what you have. Is your single 1.8 broken now? Will it no longer perform the tasks you initially bought it for?
Listen, I'm buying a nice 17" iMac. Know why? Because it does everything I could ever want it to, thanks to iLife, and Panther, and I don't need a G5, let alone dual G5s. Do you absolutely need DP 1.8s? Do have any remote idea how powerful they are?
Poor you, with a lowly 1.8 GHz G5. Man, that's too bad, you have a horrible machine there. Guess what - in 2 years, when the G6s, or 4 GHz PMs come out, or whatever - a 1.8 GHz G5 machine is still going to be able to do everything it can today and is still going to be a pretty nice machine, all things considered.
Kay, I'm done....
I for one am happy. I hope to see the dual 1.8 to be low end with the dual 2.0 becoming the middle child by Christmas. Heck, I will be glad to see G5 PowerBooks and speeds in the 3+ Ghz. Sure, I'd wish I had one while I am stuck on a 1.25 GHz G4, but either way, I am happy and in love with my computer and I would be happy to see Apple make a huge performance drive that accelerates so fast that the PC world won't even realize what happened. Someday it will be "You bought a quad 8 GHz G7? I feel sorry for you, they just released the new quad 14 GHz G8 before you got home from the Apple Store." Much better than your PC friend saying "Haha, my computer is three times faster than yours. Suck to be you."
But cmon, PB, you have got a 1.25 PB about 1.5 months ago for like 2500 right?
Wouldn't you feel pissed abit if they released PB 1.5ghz G4 or even G5 today for the same price?
I know how comp world works thanx all. But you all sure can talk cuz you really could care less, knowing that looks like most who are talking here have computers from the 90's...
I kicked the cat.
It hit the wall and now is dead.
I'll put it in a hat and toss it in a china buffet,
Where stevie jobs likes to eat.
I can sympathise, but isn't it time to give it up?
I bought a WallStreet PowerBook G3/233 when they first arrived. Three months later, they introduced an update to it with 256K L2 cache that was some 30 percent faster.
I bought a dual G4/800 in June 2002. It was a top of the line machine only 6 months earlier. At MacWorld New York, Apple introduced a dual G4/867 at the bottom of the line.
The dual 800 is still a good machine and will still be a decent machine in 2 years' time.
Does Apple owe me anything? No!
Does anyone here cry for me? No!
If I was whining about it, would they tell me to shut up? Yes!
More info needed...Originally posted by Rezet
I kicked the cat.
It hit the wall and now is dead.
I'll put it in a hat and toss it in a china buffet,
Where stevie jobs likes to eat.
Stir fry?
Sweet and sour?
Spicy Kat?
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Anyways, I though the Chinese Gardens were selling dog in Edmonton.
So I can see where you'd think you were getting ripped off if you get dog when you expected cat, or cat when you order puppy stir fry.
I for one understand that this is how the computer industry works, so no, I wouldn't be pissed. As I said in my previous post, I will be buying a 17" iMac next week. I also plan on seeing updates in January to them again, whether it be speed bumps to 1.33 or 1.42 GHz, or perhaps a completely new form factor, DDR400 RAM, a G5, and all sorts of cool neat things. Will I be pissed? No. I am buying a Mac that is more than I need, that will do everything I need it to, and will continue to do everything I need it to 1, 2, maybe 3 years down the road.
Having said that, I realize not everyone has the same rational outlook as I do, which is fair enough and I respect that.
Originally posted by Sun Baked
More info needed...
Stir fry?
Sweet and sour?
Spicy Kat?
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Anyways, I though the Chinese Gardens were selling dog in Edmonton.
So I can see where you'd think you were getting ripped off if you get dog when you expected cat, or cat when you order puppy stir fry.
I agree with SunBaked - I'd like some more info too please.
Happens to everyone. A week after I received my 30gb iPod, they discontinued it and released a 40gb for the same price.
I still love my 30gb!
I still love my 30gb!
Well, a week after, you can return 30 gig and get 40 bro.
In my case, I guess it's better not to think about it.
On the bright side, since not too many 1.8s were sold, maybe they will become sort of like a Cube G4 of the 21st century
Will be something that is hard to get but still is cool and fast Well, I'm gonna go kick another cat, if you excuse me.
what is with all this cat kicking? i guess this is a good precursor to all those who are saving up for a G5 2ghz dualie. it'll go far down in price soon! i for one can't wait till that machine is in the $2000 price range!
Apple always does this, i bought a
15"iMac for $2600 canadian,
one month later speed boost and major price drop, i could of got a 17"iMac with a super driver for $50 more !!!
I was soooooo pi$$ed off.
15"iMac for $2600 canadian,
one month later speed boost and major price drop, i could of got a 17"iMac with a super driver for $50 more !!!
I was soooooo pi$$ed off.
Please refer to my initial post - someone is always going to be affected whenever there is a system change because there will always be someone who just bought the older version. If you know a way around this then please let us all know!
And what do you mean by "Apple always does this" - does what, release new products? Intently watch when Thumper is going to buy a new system and hold back changes just until he buys?
Them's the breaks!!!
yes, thats right.. i think they watch me.
but no. i think they should drop prices one month b4 new models come out.
my 15"700mhz iMac was
$2600 sept 2003
one month later: oct 2003
15" 800mhz iMac was
$1999
and 17" 1gig iMac was
$2650
wouldnt you feel ripped off, what a big difference 28 days makes.
it still bugs me today to think about it
but no. i think they should drop prices one month b4 new models come out.
my 15"700mhz iMac was
$2600 sept 2003
one month later: oct 2003
15" 800mhz iMac was
$1999
and 17" 1gig iMac was
$2650
wouldnt you feel ripped off, what a big difference 28 days makes.
it still bugs me today to think about it
will you change your named to Powerbook G6 when this happens???
anyway, i bought my 233 imac in october '98, and now dual 1.8 g5s? i'm so pissed right now.
I remember when the Pismo came out after I bought my Lombard. Same basic computer, but upgraded with +100 MHz, faster bus, larger RAM ceiling, faster DVD-ROM, bigger HD, Airport, FW...sure, it was everything better than my Lombard in just one revision, but I wasn't pissed. It was my first Mac and a darn good machine. Having Apple update it and render mine low end didn't change the fact that I had a kick ass PowerBook that continued to serve me faithfully for over 4 years without any problems. I anticipate the same thing happening with my current PowerBook. Before too long, it is a given that Apple will update the whole line, possibly with G5s and every imaginable awesome cutting edge piece of technology out there, but that won't render my PowerBook useless, and it will just further solidify my faith in Apple coming out with insanely great products like always. Besides, a few years down the road I will hopefully be able to afford a PowerBook G7 and by then I might be PowerBook G6.
Originally posted by Thom_Edwards
will you change your named to Powerbook G6 when this happens???
anyway, i bought my 233 imac in october '98, and now dual 1.8 g5s? i'm so pissed right now.
Ahh, don't play a moron bro. 98 and almost 2004 is a big difference.
But I tell you what is not a big differnce:
September 2003 when 1.8 started to ship and November 2003 when they were discontinued. They didnt slash the prices on 1.8 and not gonna offer any even crappy gift to those who paid for a new computer that was new for 2 months.
Re: I Got ripped off!
You didn't get ripped off dude. It's a matter making things better, not worse. The fact that they made them faster and lowered the price is GOOD not BAD. If you happened to purchase one earlier, oh well.
I don't hear old PowerMac G4 owners saying they got ripped off when the G5s came out. They where excited.
You didn't get ripped off dude. It's a matter making things better, not worse. The fact that they made them faster and lowered the price is GOOD not BAD. If you happened to purchase one earlier, oh well.
I don't hear old PowerMac G4 owners saying they got ripped off when the G5s came out. They where excited.
While I agree it's the 'way the computer industry works', Apple is completely different to virtually every other computer producer.
They charge more for the same, or lower spec PCs. They also have a completly closed OS (as in no-one else can run OSX apart from Apple's machines) etc.
I love my Mac and I think it's awesome - but you can't apply the same rule of economics with Apple and 'the computer industry'. If I bought a Single 1.8ghz G5 in the peecee world (I know, it can't happen), and then someone brought out a Dual 1.8 G5 for the same/similar price, I would be able to buy another motherboard, and another CPU. Then I could eBay my old motherboard and get some money back. You can't do this easily (if at all) in the Apple world, so I don't think its fair comparing them.
They charge more for the same, or lower spec PCs. They also have a completly closed OS (as in no-one else can run OSX apart from Apple's machines) etc.
I love my Mac and I think it's awesome - but you can't apply the same rule of economics with Apple and 'the computer industry'. If I bought a Single 1.8ghz G5 in the peecee world (I know, it can't happen), and then someone brought out a Dual 1.8 G5 for the same/similar price, I would be able to buy another motherboard, and another CPU. Then I could eBay my old motherboard and get some money back. You can't do this easily (if at all) in the Apple world, so I don't think its fair comparing them.
Only if you bought a clone. With Dell, HP (Compaq) or Gateway, you can't motherboard swap. With most of these machines, you can't even upgrade the CPU. The ease-of-upgrade myth is so predominant in the PC world, yet it only applies to clone system builders. It does not apply to 95% of the PCs made these days.
Take it to its logical extension: If I have 6-layer PCB capability in my house, anytime ANYTHING new comes out, I can add it to my computer.
i cant believe this!!! i bought the original 400 mhz titanium powerbook with dvd-rom for $2700 and now i can get a 1.6 g5 with a 17 inch screen for the same price... dammit apple... you screwed me. you KNEW you were going to have a faster machine almost 3 years later... you ripped me off... im going to write a letter to steve jobs and tell him i am pissed off that his company upgrades their machines so quickly...
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