DAMN IT! I Got ripped off!

[TigerPRO]

Originally posted by Rezet
Yeah But CMON! 2 months later!? I was hoping on getting something new and so that it would last. I feel that anyone who bought 1.8 now was ripped off. Apple knew ahead they will release dual soon after yet went ahead with single version knowing it will sell out well anyways...

THIS IS BULL!

I don't know if that true, I think it was because of customer demand they decided to release the dual 1.8. Read the press release from Apple and tell me what you think.

I think anyone who buys a single processor G5 is a fool. Ever. "PowerMac" spells dual CPUs. If you want a single CPU computer, buy an iMac.

 

[See]

more of the same

😡 At least it was two months, for me it was 2 days. I wish they would give discount coupons for software or something when they do this.

 

[aldo]

Originally posted by cubist
Only if you bought a clone. With Dell, HP (Compaq) or Gateway, you can't motherboard swap. With most of these machines, you can't even upgrade the CPU. The ease-of-upgrade myth is so predominant in the PC world, yet it only applies to clone system builders. It does not apply to 95% of the PCs made these days.

Eh? Sorry. Do you think Dell, Gateway and HP/Compaq make up 95% of the PC market?! Most PCs are built by small - to medium businesses or individuals.

One very odd thing I've noticed on this forum is that everyone thinks the PC world ends with Dell and HP/Compaq. This is not the case. While PC noobs buy Dell, a hell of a lot of people build them themselves. That's the only reason they are so popular... I can build a fairly kickass PC gaming machine for $500-$700.

 

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by aldo
Eh? Sorry. Do you think Dell, Gateway and HP/Compaq make up 95% of the PC market?! Most PCs are built by small - to medium businesses or individuals.

One very odd thing I've noticed on this forum is that everyone thinks the PC world ends with Dell and HP/Compaq. This is not the case. While PC noobs buy Dell, a hell of a lot of people build them themselves. That's the only reason they are so popular... I can build a fairly kickass PC gaming machine for $500-$700.

When comparing Macs to other computers, the fairest comparison is to PC manufacturer's offerings.

Mac users aren't ignorant of homebrew PCs. I think many of us have made them ourselves. It's just not the same comparison when discussing model updates.

 

[Sun Baked]

Originally posted by aldo
One very odd thing I've noticed on this forum is that everyone thinks the PC world ends with Dell and HP/Compaq. This is not the case. While PC noobs buy Dell, a hell of a lot of people build them themselves. That's the only reason they are so popular... I can build a fairly kickass PC gaming machine for $500-$700.

If you want a $500-700 computer, build yourself a PC.

Just because you can build yourself a PC for that amount of money, doesn't mean you should be able to build a Cray supercomputer, Mac, or car for that same amount.

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Amiga was just about to enter the PPC computer elite, but they are once again fighting for their life. So the chances of them shipping a PPC970 machine looks a tad dim right now (they need to get past their money problems, launch OS 4.0 + AmigaOne combo soon).

You can still build yourself a PPC beige box computer, just don't expect to be able to run Mac OS on it legally.

Heck, the current chipsets for the beige box G4s looks on par with Apple's current offerings. Maybe even a bit ahead in some. And the chipset companies sound like they're hard at work on PPC970 chipsets.

So Apple isn't the only PPC computer company out there...

 

[fraeone]

Re: more of the same

Originally posted by See
😡 At least it was two months, for me it was 2 days. I wish they would give discount coupons for software or something when they do this.

You have 10 days to return your new Mac and say "I want a dualie instead, thanks"

The fact of the matter is that the Dual 2G machines were outselling the single 1.8s like CRAZY. For those that are unhappy, and want a dual 1.8, ebay your machine! It might cost you an extra $100 or $200 in the end, but surely your last 2-3 months w/ it is worth a couple hundred bucks.

Seriously. Computing is an expensive hobby. We commit ourselves to paying thousands for new hardware, only to see it be obsolete in 2 or 3 years. If you don't like that aspect of it, there are plenty of hobbies that haven't changed at all in the last 100 years.

 

[~Shard~]

Re: Re: more of the same

Originally posted by fraeone
You have 10 days to return your new Mac and say "I want a dualie instead, thanks"

Exactly - quit wasting time complaining in this forum and do something about it. You have 10 days to change your order!

Seriously. Computing is an expensive hobby. We commit ourselves to paying thousands for new hardware, only to see it be obsolete in 2 or 3 years. If you don't like that aspect of it, there are plenty of hobbies that haven't changed at all in the last 100 years.

Precisely - perhaps you would be better suited for a hobby such as stamp collecting or perhaps knitting? 😎

 

[Rezet]

Originally posted by puffmarvin
i cant believe this!!! i bought the original 400 mhz titanium powerbook with dvd-rom for $2700 and now i can get a 1.6 g5 with a 17 inch screen for the same price... dammit apple... you screwed me. you KNEW you were going to have a faster machine almost 3 years later... you ripped me off... im going to write a letter to steve jobs and tell him i am pissed off that his company upgrades their machines so quickly...

🙄 🙄 yawn 🙄 🙄

Just for you my friend, let me repeat what I said earlier:
"98 and almost 2004 is a big difference.
But I tell you what is not a big differnce:
September 2003 when 1.8 started to ship and November 2003 when they were discontinued. They didnt slash the prices on 1.8 and not gonna offer any even crappy gift to those who paid for a new computer that was new for 2 months."

Seriously, don't compare apples and oranges. Cheers....

 

[Rower_CPU]

So how long of an arbitrary period of time do you want Apple to wait between product releases?

Should Apple handicap their product releases and sit on new technology because people have an irrational desire to own the "latest and greatest" for as long as possible?

You got the computer you needed when you needed it. That's all that matters.

 

[~Shard~]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
So how long of an arbitrary period of time do you want Apple to wait between product releases?

Should Apple handicap their product releases and sit on new technology because people have an irrational desire to own the "latest and greatest" for as long as possible?

You got the computer you needed when you needed it. That's all that matters.

Exactly - how long should Apple wait to meet your personal needs? 3 months? 6 months? Maybe you should send Steve Jobs your personal phone number so he can call you and ask you for your permission when he wants to release new products.

And guess what? There is always going to be someone who just bought a system before it gets updated, and there is no way to avoid this. If you know how Apple can please everyone, please let everyone know!

I can just see it now... MWSF in less than 2 months... Additional speed bumps are going to be annouced for the PowerMacs and then we're going to hear all this whining and complaining again. "Oh man, I just bought a DP 1.8 GHz and now 2 months later, for the same price I could get a DP 2.3 GHz (or whatever is announced) for the same price. Man, Apple screwed me over!" 🙄

After all, heaven forbid Apple should stay competitive and release new technology as soon as they can, whether it be 2 months, 6 months, or 2 weeks apart.

I completely agree with Rower_CPU - you got the computer you needed when you needed it and that's all that matters. Is your computer broken now? Will it not do the tasks you purchased it for anymore? Poor you and a lowly 1.8 GHz G5, I feel sorry for you... 🙄

The simple fact is that you personally didn't need a DP machine - otherwise, you would've bought a DP 2.0 GHz. So now why are you complaining that you don't have a DP? Some people are never satisfied.

 

[Rezet]

Originally posted by ~Shard~
Exactly - how long should Apple wait to meet your personal needs? 3 months? 6 months? Maybe you should send Steve Jobs your personal phone number so he can call you and ask you for your permission when he wants to release new products.

And guess what? There is always going to be someone who just bought a system before it gets updated, and there is no way to avoid this. If you know how Apple can please everyone, please let everyone know!

I can just see it now... MWSF in less than 2 months... Additional speed bumps are going to be annouced for the PowerMacs and then we're going to hear all this whining and complaining again. "Oh man, I just bought a DP 1.8 GHz and now 2 months later, for the same price I could get a DP 2.3 GHz (or whatever is announced) for the same price. Man, Apple screwed me over!" 🙄

After all, heaven forbid Apple should stay competitive and release new technology as soon as they can, whether it be 2 months, 6 months, or 2 weeks apart.

I completely agree with Rower_CPU - you got the computer you needed when you needed it and that's all that matters. Is your computer broken now? Will it not do the tasks you purchased it for anymore? Poor you and a lowly 1.8 GHz G5, I feel sorry for you... 🙄

The simple fact is that you personally didn't need a DP machine - otherwise, you would've bought a DP 2.0 GHz. So now why are you complaining that you don't have a DP? Some people are never satisfied.

LOL you sure can talk cuz you didn't get 1.8. Frankly, If i was sitting with some 450 G3, i'd be on your side too, people. "WOW how great apple is moving forward so fast..."
But what pisses me that they knew they will release dual right after single to just make MONEY. Not to shock you or anything but apple is there for the money. 🙄
They knew exactly, after they sell mid level model and sales slow down, they would introduce dual model right away for those who couldn't afford 2.0...
And geez, even if they offered 1.8 users like a 30 bucks itunes gift certificate as a gift, i wouldnt be that upset.

I want to hear what 1.8 owners have to say, not 450mhz g3 owners...

P.S. They didn't just introduce the new model. I woudn't be too hard on them if it was the case. But what pissed me wa sthat they discontinued 1.8 single G5 all together, frankly right after sales slowed down and people couldn't bring back their G5's back. Put it this way. 1.8 lived exactly 2 months. Now, ebay is the place to find one if wanted...
Talk about CUBE's short life...
🙄

 

[Rower_CPU]

Originally posted by Rezet
...
But what pisses me that they knew they will release dual right after single to just make MONEY.
...

Dude, you keep saying that, but you have absolutely no proof to back it up that you've shown here.

Of course sales slowed after the initial rush. Maybe Apple was just waiting on more quantities of 1.8s from IBM. Maybe duals were planned to start with but it just didn't happen.

The point is, I doubt anyone on this forum knows for sure. If you have proof show it. It's time to "put up or shut up".

 

[jxyama]

this discussion is dumb. what does discontinuation has to do with resale value? were you really going to sell your single 1.8 now? because in a few years, when you are really likely to sell it, the market value would have settled by then, regardless of it being discontinued or not or when the dual 1.8 was released.

when you purchased your 1.8, there was no guarantee from apple that they will not release a better product for the same price or the same product for cheaper price in the near future. while you have a valid complaint that the shipment of 1.8 was delayed, you have no ground to make claim about being ripped off.

the original 17" PB was announced in jan. they didn't ship in decent amount until 3 to 4 months after that. and guess what, the price dropped by $300 soon after that.

 

[jxyama]

Originally posted by Rezet
P.S. They didn't just introduce the new model. I woudn't be too hard on them if it was the case. But what pissed me wa sthat they discontinued 1.8 single G5 all together, frankly right after sales slowed down and people couldn't bring back their G5's back. Put it this way. 1.8 lived exactly 2 months. Now, ebay is the place to find one if wanted...
Talk about CUBE's short life...
🙄

don't even tell me that you'd be happier if they had kept the 1.8 GHz, but sold it at $2100, about halfway between 1.6 and dual 1.8...

 

[Rezet]

Originally posted by jxyama
don't even tell me that you'd be happier if they had kept the 1.8 GHz, but sold it at $2100, about halfway between 1.6 and dual 1.8...

What would be wrong with that?

 

[Rezet]

Originally posted by Rower_CPU
Dude, you keep saying that, but you have absolutely no proof to back it up that you've shown here.

Of course sales slowed after the initial rush. Maybe Apple was just waiting on more quantities of 1.8s from IBM. Maybe duals were planned to start with but it just didn't happen.

The point is, I doubt anyone on this forum knows for sure. If you have proof show it. It's time to "put up or shut up".

rower, i don't have physical proof of it, but believe it or not my father is closely affiliated with this chip producing industry and he can tell you that companies have very clear plans about their chips up to a YEAR ahead! and I mean clear.
I don't know what apple could and could not do. But if you use common sense, and put 2 and 2 together, considering that apple is there for the money and not for being your friend, everything i say about their 1.8 releasing - adds up.

 

[XnavxeMiyyep]

Right, Apple is in it for the money. Sure, they like to innovate, but they are a company. Anyway, I bought a Dual 867 G4 with some extra RAM and a Superdrive for ~$2000 when I knew that the G5 was going to be out in a few months. Why did I do that? Because I needed a new computer, my iMac G3 was just too slow to run OS X 10.1. Am I upset? No. I needed a Powermac, and I got one.

 

[MacNut]

So you want to talk about getting screwed

Back in 1996 I got a PM6500/225 otherwise known as a G2, a few months later Apple released the G3 my computer wont even run any version of OSX so if you thing you got screwed you can atleast run up to date operating system, im stuck with this paper weight. If i only waited a few months longer but who new back then that OSX would only run on a G3 and beyond. Luckly i will be buying a new 15" PB in a few days so my years of being ripped off will be over. 🙂

 

[Rezet]

Re: So you want to talk about getting screwed

Originally posted by MacNut
Back in 1996 I got a PM6500/225 otherwise known as a G2, a few months later Apple released the G3 my computer wont even run any version of OSX so if you thing you got screwed you can atleast run up to date operating system, im stuck with this paper weight. If i only waited a few months longer but who new back then that OSX would only run on a G3 and beyond. Luckly i will be buying a new 15" PB in a few days so my years of being ripped off will be over. 🙂

heh, yeah it sux too. but i mean atleast when it approaches end of a cycle, you buy at your own risk. But who could have seen this coming with 1.8s?
They did right with the powerbooks, lowered prices in june, so people know new updates are coming but if u want a decent laptop now for less, you can get it today...

 

[3-22]

Wah!?!?

What?!?! Apple is going to release new and improved hardware... Bastards!

 

[Sun Baked]