iPhone XR Dang the XR bezels are pretty noticeable

Kendo

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I've been looking at the tech specs and pictures of the XR side by side with the XS and I thought it was my imagination that the bezels were only ever so slightly wider on the XR. But it looks like they are somewhat substantial based on the pic below side by side.



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johannnn

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Slightly bigger bezels. No deal breaker.

The only deal breaker for me is the single lens. I have no faith that portrait photos will be good. Especially when photographing something else than a human face (which the software has been trained on), like a dog.
 

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You need to have enough bezel to hide the LED backlighting
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Slightly bigger bezels. No deal breaker.

The only deal breaker for me is the single lens. I have no faith that portrait photos will be good. Especially when photographing something else than a human face (which the software has been trained on), like a dog.

The portrait software in the MAX works on more than just faces:
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eneisch

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You need to have enough bezel to hide the LED backlighting
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The portrait software in the MAX works on more than just faces:
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Great photo! I think is point is the Xs and Xs Max have dual lenses which he thinks may facilitate taking portrait mode photos better than the single lens XR.
 

DNichter

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Compared to an XS, it definitely looks bigger, but I don't think many people will care/notice while using.
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Agreed. I was pointing out that the software does not ONLY work on faces.
I read that the XR portrait mode ONLY worked on humans, was that debunked?
 

Jordan921

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Slightly bigger bezels. No deal breaker.

The only deal breaker for me is the single lens. I have no faith that portrait photos will be good. Especially when photographing something else than a human face (which the software has been trained on), like a dog.
Don’t think that it would just work on faces.
 

EugW

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According to some people testing it out, the XR fails portrait mode on inanimate objects. I wouldn't be surprised, since apparently the Neural Engine is now tied to the camera, and perhaps Apple is using the facial recognition engine to determine the foreground object to be kept in focus.

Furthermore, portrait mode on the XR is wide angle, which isn't ideal for portrait mode. Telephoto works better in terms of facial features when using portrait mode. Wide angle causes more distortion.

That said, sometimes I found the telephoto-only portrait mode annoying. It's sometimes nice to have a wider shot with the background blurred.

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IOW, if you're coming from an iPhone 6s like my wife is, having this portrait mode will be a bonus. However, if you're coming from the iPhone 7 Plus like me, the XR's portrait mode might be irritating.
 

OneMike

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Slightly bigger bezels. No deal breaker.

The only deal breaker for me is the single lens. I have no faith that portrait photos will be good. Especially when photographing something else than a human face (which the software has been trained on), like a dog.
May not be as great and I’m not interested in the xr, but I’d bet the majority of XS and XS max users don’t take many portraits.
 

EugW

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May not be as great and I’m not interested in the xr, but I’d bet the majority of XS and XS max users don’t take many portraits.
I have a 7 Plus, and I take lots of portraits. Same with Live Photos.

Having little kids does that to you.

As for the bezels, I don't really give a chit. If it means saving hundreds of $$$, I'm fine with that. While I don't think it looks better than the XS Max, I think it looks fine.
 

johannnn

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I’ve taken a bunch of portrait photos on my Xs Max.
I don’t think anyone’s arguing that no one is taking portrait photos. But of all X owners I know, the vast majority of photos are non-portrait. And the vast majority of portrait-photos are of kids/partner. Which means that it’s no biggie if XR is limited to faces. But given that it’s just software driven, I hope it’s gonna be improved in iOS 13 and forward (although I doubt it will ever reach the level of Pixel, just because Apple doesn’t have Google Images). I’m an outlier because most of my photos are portrait photos of our dog. So I’ve ordered the XS this year (upgrading from X). But when the XR camera improves I’ll likely switch to the XR, just due to price. The LCD doesn’t bother me, and I love that it got the same A12 processor etc like the XS.
 
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