This from a guy who wears Armani sweatpants.
Vader wins. He owns the both sides of the force. Superman can't even get up the nerve to ask out Lois Lane. I'd like to see Superman try to stop the a beam from the Death Star. No contest.
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Darth Vader vs. Superman
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This from a guy who wears Armani sweatpants.
Vader wins. He owns the both sides of the force. Superman can't even get up the nerve to ask out Lois Lane. I'd like to see Superman try to stop the a beam from the Death Star. No contest.
This from a guy who wears Armani sweatpants.
Vader wins. He owns the both sides of the force. Superman can't even get up the nerve to ask out Lois Lane. I'd like to see Superman try to stop the a beam from the Death Star. No contest.
yeah that is covered in the link above from How Stuff Works. basically Superman would own the deathstar. no contest.
Don't believe that articles logic at all. The beam from the Death Star could blow up a planet. Superman can stop a speeding bullet, sure, but a planet sized ray? No way. And this notion of him absorbing the ray is nonsense. First off, the ray is green, not yellow. Secondly, the massive size of the beam is too much to absorb that quick even if he was capable. The article also says Superman could punch his way into the Death Star. But they don't mention how he'd get thru the Shield Protectors. Jimmy Olson gonna take down the Shield generators? I think not.
Superman only has his powers, IIRC, because of Sol's yellow light. Krypton's sun prior to the nova was red. On Krypton, all Kal-el's kinfolk were normal people, no super powers.
All Vader would have to do is have the fight near a red-light star... or Force-whip-up some light in the same wavelength as dearly departed Krypton's star... then watch Superman deflate into Joe Dude Man. Then Vader would take several hours tormenting him, atomic wedgies, noogies, why-you-hitting-yourself - then cut his frikkin head off and be done with it.
Vader.
All Vader would have to do is have the fight near a red-light star... or Force-whip-up some light in the same wavelength as dearly departed Krypton's star... then watch Superman deflate into Joe Dude Man. Then Vader would take several hours tormenting him, atomic wedgies, noogies, why-you-hitting-yourself - then cut his frikkin head off and be done with it.
Vader.
But isn't it Superman vs. Darth Vader?
Superman vs. Darth Vader PLUS Palpatine PLUS a Death Star?
He'd be one thoroughly disintegrated Super Hero. How good is he at coming back from a pile of constituent sub-atomic particles?
And if he did manage, he'd be blasted again until he gives up!
Even if he could deflect the blast from his person, what about the destruction of Earth out from under him?
I'm thinking that with Palpatine around even Vader could make "Chop Supey" out of Superman.
Just not by himself. SuperDuperMan could easily survive "The Grip" and melt some vital life-support something or other from a safe distance away from Vader's clumsily-wielded Lightsaber.
Put Palpatine in the mix and bye bye Superman. A little thing like Imperviablity isn't going to stop the likes of Palpatine. Without or with Kryponite.
Have Fun,
Keri
PS. Doesn't Superman spare his victims Lives? Big mistake with Vader. He or Palpatine will figure out the Kryptonite thing pretty quick and find some.
Superman vs. Darth Vader PLUS Palpatine PLUS a Death Star?
He'd be one thoroughly disintegrated Super Hero. How good is he at coming back from a pile of constituent sub-atomic particles?
And if he did manage, he'd be blasted again until he gives up!
Even if he could deflect the blast from his person, what about the destruction of Earth out from under him?
I'm thinking that with Palpatine around even Vader could make "Chop Supey" out of Superman.
Just not by himself. SuperDuperMan could easily survive "The Grip" and melt some vital life-support something or other from a safe distance away from Vader's clumsily-wielded Lightsaber.
Put Palpatine in the mix and bye bye Superman. A little thing like Imperviablity isn't going to stop the likes of Palpatine. Without or with Kryponite.
Have Fun,
Keri
PS. Doesn't Superman spare his victims Lives? Big mistake with Vader. He or Palpatine will figure out the Kryptonite thing pretty quick and find some.
This thread is getting super nerdy! I love it!
Reminds me of this thread I made last year
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/706994/
Reminds me of this thread I made last year
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/706994/
Exactly... Obi Wan is a much more powerful & skilled Jedi than what Anakin was. It's just Anakin had the midiclorians to his favour to make up for his lackiness in everything.
I think what you meant to say was;
1. Superman uses heat vision - Vader deflects with saber.
2. Vader uses choke hold - Superman too strong to choke.
3. Superman punches Vader - Vader uses saber to scratch Superman
4. Vader falls to the floor in a heap - Superman flies away.
Not only is there not evidence to say that a light saber can cut superman seeming as though it took Obi-wan and Qui-Gon half an hour to cut through a steel door in episode one. But as fast as superman is, a half robot relic like vader wouldn't have time to react to even try to stop superman.
Darth Vader FTW.
Why I think so:
Vader is a master of the Dark Side of the Force, and a Sith Lord. Sith Lords don't simply rely on raw force power. They use cunning, guile & deception as well.
Didn't anyone watch "The Empire Strikes Back"? Didn't you see how much effort and preparation Vader put in into luring Luke Skywalker out from Dagobah all the way to Bespin?
Don't you think he'll put in even more effort to ensure he has the upper hand against such a formidable foe? He may not be able to harm Superman directly, but he can threaten to harm everyone else around him. And Superman would eventually have to submit. Aside from kryptonite, compassion is another of Superman's weaknesses. Unless he drinks Johnny Walker Red Label like in (the original) Superman 2. That stuff will turn anyone bad......
Of course, one may argue that Lex Luthor & other have exploited that weakness before, but then they all had bumbling idiot sidekicks & underlings. Vader's men are creme-de-la-creme Imperial Stormtroopers.
Gawd, I need to get a life......
Why I think so:
Vader is a master of the Dark Side of the Force, and a Sith Lord. Sith Lords don't simply rely on raw force power. They use cunning, guile & deception as well.
Didn't anyone watch "The Empire Strikes Back"? Didn't you see how much effort and preparation Vader put in into luring Luke Skywalker out from Dagobah all the way to Bespin?
Don't you think he'll put in even more effort to ensure he has the upper hand against such a formidable foe? He may not be able to harm Superman directly, but he can threaten to harm everyone else around him. And Superman would eventually have to submit. Aside from kryptonite, compassion is another of Superman's weaknesses. Unless he drinks Johnny Walker Red Label like in (the original) Superman 2. That stuff will turn anyone bad......
Of course, one may argue that Lex Luthor & other have exploited that weakness before, but then they all had bumbling idiot sidekicks & underlings. Vader's men are creme-de-la-creme Imperial Stormtroopers.
Gawd, I need to get a life......
Damn you... I was going to say that!
I guess that would also involve Superman losing a hand. For some reason, the Skywalkers just don't seem able to hold onto their hands for very long..
Superman has more than just Kryptonite as a weakness. Usually he has to prevent loads of innocent people from dying. Vader could diffuse his power by making him run around saving lives.
BRB on my way to Tashi Station to pick up power converters...
BRB on my way to Tashi Station to pick up power converters...
Ohhhhhh, meesa sorry! Meesa no see funny blue-color man dere!
Also, it's well known that Superman tends to be vulnerable to "magic." I don't know if the Force officially qualifies as "magic", but it's rather close...
This from a guy who wears Armani sweatpants.
Vader wins. He owns the both sides of the force. Superman can't even get up the nerve to ask out Lois Lane. I'd like to see Superman try to stop the a beam from the Death Star. No contest.
Armani sweatpants what? Superman doesn't wear sweatpants.
Armani sweatpants what? Superman doesn't wear sweatpants.
Talkin' 'bout your avatar, Stinson! Calling out others when your boy Barney's the biggest pansy of them all. Shame on you.
Talkin' 'bout your avatar, Stinson! Calling out others when your boy Barney's the biggest pansy of them all. Shame on you.
Armani != Pansy, dude.
Ohhhhhh, meesa sorry! Meesa no see funny blue-color man dere!
Also, it's well known that Superman tends to be vulnerable to "magic." I don't know if the Force officially qualifies as "magic", but it's rather close...
MAKE IT STOP! MAKE IT STOP! I CAN'T UNHEAR!!!!
Darth Vader FTW.
Why I think so:
Vader is a master of the Dark Side of the Force, and a Sith Lord. Sith Lords don't simply rely on raw force power. They use cunning, guile & deception as well.
Didn't anyone watch "The Empire Strikes Back"? Didn't you see how much effort and preparation Vader put in into luring Luke Skywalker out from Dagobah all the way to Bespin?
Don't you think he'll put in even more effort to ensure he has the upper hand against such a formidable foe? He may not be able to harm Superman directly, but he can threaten to harm everyone else around him. And Superman would eventually have to submit. Aside from kryptonite, compassion is another of Superman's weaknesses. Unless he drinks Johnny Walker Red Label like in (the original) Superman 2. That stuff will turn anyone bad......
Of course, one may argue that Lex Luthor & other have exploited that weakness before, but then they all had bumbling idiot sidekicks & underlings. Vader's men are creme-de-la-creme Imperial Stormtroopers.
Gawd, I need to get a life......
If you wanna go that route I can only assume Brainiac plans just as well as Vader. It wouldn't be the first time someone tries to threaten his friends and family and Superman pretty much always comes out on top, even there evil super computers that calculate "everything".
Didn't Vader show compassion when he wussed out and helped defeat the Emperor?
Saying the force is magic is like saying Mutant/Meta human abilities are magic. To that the answer is no.
Superman wins. The wankers at DC will just keep upgrading his powers until he can beat up everything in the universe singlehandedly.
The original Superman didn't have heat vision, x-ray vision or flying abilities. He couldn't move faster than the speed of light, or move planets out of their orbits or reverse the flow of time. The original Superman was "faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound." That's it, nothing more.
The other powers he obtained later on was just the work of DC wankers. He got upgraded so much by the Infinite Crisis/Post Crisis time, that he could survive the destruction of a universe. An event that destroyed a universe couldn't even kill him. Next thing you know, he'll be able to absorb a red sun's power the same way he absorbs a yellow sun's power.
The original Superman didn't have heat vision, x-ray vision or flying abilities. He couldn't move faster than the speed of light, or move planets out of their orbits or reverse the flow of time. The original Superman was "faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive and able to leap tall buildings in a single bound." That's it, nothing more.
The other powers he obtained later on was just the work of DC wankers. He got upgraded so much by the Infinite Crisis/Post Crisis time, that he could survive the destruction of a universe. An event that destroyed a universe couldn't even kill him.
Next thing you know, he'll be able to absorb a red sun's power the same way he absorbs a yellow sun's power.