Dashboard Exposed

[jragosta]

LMAO

come one...no one sees how funny a statement like this is?

it WASNT the first of it's kind..BUT APPLE should be accosted for "stealing" the idea which ISNT the first incarnation of this idea from Konfab?

confused.? you're supposed to be...this is dumb

You forgot one thing.

Konfabulator's product is essentially an improved Desk Accessory. So Apple should be chastised for 'stealing' an idea from someone who copied an earlier Apple idea?

It's amazing how far people will go to bash Apple.

 

[Surreal]

jgrosta; that was what i was pointing out


i quoted someone pretty much saying that apple stole the unoriginal idea from konfab.

they said "sure, it wasnt konfabs idea 'per se' but they made it good, so it's theirs."

my tongue in cheek retort was...perhaps apple made it better.


perhaps too tongue in cheek?

 

[jakemikey]

Wow if anyone has a few minutes, you should DEFINITELY read this:

http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/dashboard_vs_konfabulator

It's a Macbytes.com link. This is bar none the best evaluation of the whole controversy. Very well written and completely irrefutable. I'd like to see somebody try and counter it (especially Arlo Rose).

 

[moki]

Quartz Extreme consists of two parts, Quartz 2D and Quartz Compositing. Q2D is a 2D graphics API. It (along with QuickDraw, QuickTime and OpenGL) passes it's resultant bitmap data to Quartz Compositer, which takes those bitmaps and renders them onto OpenGL polygons and offloads them to the GPU, which is ideally suited for handling translucency, layering etc.

One thing people seem to be missing (perhaps because it was underplayed at the keynote) is that Apple has implemented an optimized hardware pipeline for Quartz 2D in Quartz 2D Extreme. This is a very cool technology.

Currently, you compose something in Quartz (in software), and then the bits are flushed to the video card. They've created a pipeline that implements most of Quartz 2D on the video card. The speed gains for many specific optimizations were quite impressive.

 

[whooleytoo]

Currently, you compose something in Quartz (in software), and then the bits are flushed to the video card. They've created a pipeline that implements most of Quartz 2D on the video card. The speed gains for many specific optimizations were quite impressive.

Now that's interesting. Do you currently use Quartz 2D in any of your products? I'd love to hear some before/after benchmarks.

 

[whooleytoo]

Incidentally, does anyone know when the WWDC sessions start appearing up on ADC TV?

 

[MacQuest]

LMAO

come one...no one sees how funny a statement like this is?

it WASNT the first of it's kind..BUT APPLE should be accosted for "stealing" the idea which ISNT the first incarnation of this idea from Konfab?

confused.? you're supposed to be...this is dumb

Hey "genius", you're late to the party!

I was pissed at Apple too because I also believed that they "should be accosted for 'stealing' the idea which ISNT the first incarnation of this idea from Konfab."

Then I discovered that Apple itself may already have the patents to this technology that was first used in the early '90's in the form of "desktop accessories". The look was not at all the same because the technology was incapable of such visual displays at the time [translucency, etc.], but the CONCEPT and implementation were the same. It seems that this may be an old Apple technology afterall.

Here's an older post of mine about all of this:

"There's a big thread over at Konfab's website with some interesting insight to all of this:

http://www2.konfabulator.com/forums...r=asc&start=105

I guess I'm not so pissed off anymore since this technology was used years before Konfab came around, even in classic Mac OS.

Ok. All better now. [/rant]"