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There is no unlimited plan.

Yes there is. Unlimted means no stoping of data usage but does not guarantee speed.

Tmobile wont stop you from using data but if you're a heavy volume user in a place where many other people are on the same tower you goto the back of the line until the tower get less congested or you change locations.

You could use 100gb a month and at 3am have full speeds but if you're downtown at 10am it 'could' slow to unusable speeds.

Some people don't want to pay for internet or use wifi and then complain they get slower speeds when they needed it. Thats the chance they take for not being more mindfull of their usage
 
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AT&T gotta up their game. I like them due their coverage but their prices are definately a slap in the face.

I don't mind someone correcting me if my thinking is totally off. AT&T should be ashamed of themselves. When you have a head start on the competition and you don't put money into your infrastructure to be the best...you should be ashamed of themselves. What were they doing with all the iPhone money when nobody else had the iPhone (that seems like so long ago)? I bet their executives got some nice bonuses.

Oh, and I'm a AT&T customer. In some ways I think they all suck.
 
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Looks like the post police and thin-skin crowd is out again on MR.

You can call it whatever you want. Until carriers display more transparency, "de-prioritizing" is a just a simple code word for throttling.

Sorry it bothers you so much.


No, these are entirely different concepts to anyone familiar with network technology. "Throttling" means you are slowed down no matter what. "Deprioritization" means you are slowed down only if it is overcrowded. Deprioritization is nothing new (you can read up on QoS). Every significant data network in history has a way to deal with overcrowding by reducing service in some way-- it's a necessity for networks to operate.
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You could use 100gb a month and at 3am have full speeds but if you're downtown at 10am it 'could' slow to unusable speeds.

More likely, just "unusable" for streaming.
 
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I have yet to be "throttled" by T-Mobile so what you are saying is incorrect. No slow downs or anything over 28gb. So they are being honest.

Same here. I get the text message every month, and they haven't throttled my speed yet. Seems like they are being honest about saying "only when necessary".

In my previous experience with AT&T, they would throttle my speed every single time, even if I was a single byte over the limit.

I doubt Sprint users have the patience to use that much data. :p




T-Mobile Tuesdays should definitely be factored into any cost savings too. I've received hundreds of dollars in Lyft rides, movie tickets, movie rentals and food. Also there are other prizes, discounts on gas sometimes too. I don't take advantage of everything, but even for the stuff I do, it all adds up.

Most of the stuff I haven't used, but the free T-mobile shirt they sent me and the countless free frosty coupons for Wendys have been nice.




Also T-mobile's DIGITS is sweet. I hope it's priced right after the beta ends.
 
The $160 from T-Mobile includes taxes and fees where as the $180 from Verizon does not include taxes and fees.

Verizon actually sucks. In Asia one can take out their SIM card and place it in any device they want to use. If you have a different cell phone or iPad you could take SIM card out to use it where stupid Verizon will not allow you to do so without charging you extra for doing so.
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I'm with T Mobile now. I don't know how AT&T thinks they can charge what they do. T-Mobile's network recently surpassed AT&T's in strength and they have faster LTE speeds than Verizon (AT&T and T Mobile use GSM while Verizon and Sprint use the slower CDMA). Plus Tax and fees included. And Verizon's call conferencing is unbearably bad.

https://opensignal.com/reports/2016/08/usa/state-of-the-mobile-network/

But I guess it depends on the area you live and work in.
You are right, it depends on where you live. One has to pick a provider that has cell towers near their home and work. This will be different for each person depending on where they work and live. Within a mile of a cell tower and you got good cell reception. The closer the better
 
After 10 years with AT&T, I moved to T-Mobile last Friday.

I called AT&T to talk to them before making my decision. None of the "options" they gave me were options at all. Either more expensive or limited in the offering. They seem to have given up altogether and are tone deaf. They really seem to be wanting to appear to care while knowing that their customers likely won't switch. Well, I had been contemplating it for a long time, and their customer service person made it real easy to law the decision.

Yes, T-Mobile's "bars" of signal strength aren't quite as high, but I still get better speeds than I did with AT&T. The fact that taxes and fees are included, their international features are the best by far, and they have forced all these changes on the industry, means that they deserve a chance. Oh, and the $150 per line rebate is nice too! :)
 
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Good comparison..

The $50 sprint one sound good, but i would prefer the prioritizing or throttling over a lower 2G connection any-day...

I mean,, 2G speeds? Are we still living in to 90's ... shaping or throttling achieves the same effect.
 
I'd love to use T-Mobile, but where I live (island of Key Biscayne, FL), only AT&T has decent coverage. And then people wonder why AT&T has so many customers? Why doesn't T-Mobile invest more in getting good coverage?
 
I'd love to use T-Mobile, but where I live (island of Key Biscayne, FL), only AT&T has decent coverage. And then people wonder why AT&T has so many customers? Why doesn't T-Mobile invest more in getting good coverage?

Not sure where you live in Key Biscayne, but my mother lives there and has T-Mobile. Aside from when she's getting near the KB side of the big bridge, her reception is fine.
 
The $160 from T-Mobile includes taxes and fees where as the $180 from Verizon does not include taxes and fees.

Verizon actually sucks. In Asia one can take out their SIM card and place it in any device they want to use. If you have a different cell phone or iPad you could take SIM card out to use it where stupid Verizon will not allow you to do so without charging you extra for doing so.
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You are right, it depends on where you live. One has to pick a provider that has cell towers near their home and work. This will be different for each person depending on where they work and live. Within a mile of a cell tower and you got good cell reception. The closer the better
What's the issue with Verizon and charging extra for something or other?
 
Not sure where you live in Key Biscayne, but my mother lives there and has T-Mobile. Aside from when she's getting near the KB side of the big bridge, her reception is fine.
In the center of Key Biscayne it's true T-Mobile reception is ok. But if one lives in Key Biscayne right after Ocean Club going south toward the ocean there is almost no reception. And at the Key Biscayne Light house and surrounding park AT&T has 5 bars and T-mobile has "no service".
 
In the center of Key Biscayne it's true T-Mobile reception is ok. But if one lives in Key Biscayne right after Ocean Club going south toward the ocean there is almost no reception. And at the Key Biscayne Light house and surrounding park AT&T has 5 bars and T-mobile has "no service".
I'm sure you're right. It has been a long, long time since I've been down to the lighthouse. I can say that just south of Ocean Club it's still all right, maybe on down to the Towers, but I haven't even been down that far. It's too bad that their reception near Bill Bags is so bad; their offering is a lot better than AT&T's.
 
I have been with AT&T for last 14 years. Got UDP with iPhone and stayed this long since I could get a new iPhone subsidized every 2 years. They used to permanently throttle UDP after 2 GB usage till couple of years back. 2 GB. No hotspot. Well, I am planning to leave now that they are increasing UDP price.

T-Mobile coverage has improved a lot in last 5 years where I live, so that is one option.

Another option id ATT GoPhone plan - 4GB for $40. tax included, hotspot included. same coverage and speed. Can anyone think of any cons of going with AT&T prepaid? I haven't seen people commenting on it.
 
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I dunno, I consider T-Mobile's SIM card fee an "activation fee" of sorts. Though it's possible they got rid of that.

I just contacted them via their website's chat and they dropped the $20 SIM kit/activation fee to $0.99.

On top of that they currently have a promotion for those switching from other carriers. For a single line, they will give you a $150 prepaid MasterCard.

This is going to save me over $360/year compared to my grandfathered AT&T "unlimited" plan, which only includes 450 voice minutes, 1500 text messages, and no tethering. That's excluding the one time $150 sign-on gift.

I know many people in my area who are on T-Mobile and everyone I've asked has said they're happy with their coverage areas and speeds.
 
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Why did the article NOT mention anything about the additional charges of fees and taxes that are INCLUDED in T-Mobile's plan but are NOT INCLUDED in Verizon's? That increases what a customer would have to pay under Verizon. (Yes, it says fee-free for $70, but T-Mobile said taxes were also included. Verizon does not include any of those.)



Most (about 95% in a news report last week) smartphone users use under 3 GB of data monthly.

I use 16.5gbs in 8-9 days I still have a conspiracy about this. When they used to throttle at 5gbs, I would always hit 75% exactly 8-9 days in. Now, I'm doing the same type of browsing but more than 4x the usuage? Scams I tells ya. Scams!
 
The FCC needs to force all carriers to stop using the word "Unlimited" and use a new word like: "Unthrotited", "Unlimitroted", "Unlimitediminished", "Undiminishlimited"

Say goodbye to any help from the FCC, for the next four years at least. Expect to see rising costs for cable and broadband and an increase in abusive and deceptive tactics, including efforts to charge differently depending on what services you use online (aka, the end of net neutrality.)
 
Cricket has $65 unlimited data plan. They do throttle the connection to 8Mbps over LTE and 4Mbps over HSPA. I have their 8GB plan but if I really wanted the unlimited plan, I could upgrade. Also, the $65 is the actual out of pocket - no taxes or fees.

Cricket's service is garbage.
 
The price of US mobile plans seems outrageous. Here in Italy I pay 15 euro (16 USD) a month for 30GB of traffic (1 GB/day) and unlimited calls.
 
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@Matt Gonzalez Your video segment on Verizon is incorrect. They do not throttle after 22GB off phone data. Why is it so many people fail to read what the tos actually says? it isn't hard to understand.

@Juli Clover "All networks will "deprioritize" (aka slow down) data after a certain amount of data is used per month. T-Mobile's limit is 28GB, while AT&T's is 22GB, Verizon's is 22GB, and Sprint's is 23GB. When these caps are hit, data speeds are slowed down."

Deprioritization is not the same thing as throttling. If a user has reached x amount of data per carrier statement, said user may be deprioritized behind other users if the tower they are trying to access is congested. If it isn't congested, said users experience normal usage.

Sloppy reporting by you and Matt. Get the facts right, especially when you go to the trouble to create an article and video for your users.


You summary is inaccurate, our at least misleading. Anyone who lives in or near a major metro area and uses their phone during rush hour is almost certain to encounter network congestion. During those times, "deprioritization" will be effectively the same as throttling.

The good news is that 22GB a month is a huge amount of data for a smartphone. Most people use somewhere between 3-5GB a month. So unless you spend your day watching HD videos on your phone while on a cellular connection, you're unlikely to ever come near that threshold.
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does verizon allow you to be on the phone and the internet at the same time? i remember hearing that wasn't possible awhile back?

Yes and no. CDMA networks like Verizon's have always had this limitation. Verizon came up with a workaround a couple of years ago, but it only works while you're on their LTE network on a supported device.
 
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Basically comes down to T-Mobile vs Verizon. Sprint sucks at coverage and ATT charges too much for not enough. I like the competition though.

With AT&T I get a free subscription to Sunday Ticket and unlimited data. T-mobile offers to subsidize DirecTV Now subscription. Not sure what incentives Verizon offers.....
 
Hm - don't know about you, but I consistently use over 25GB / month on both of my phones. Can't imagine using less than 5GB unless literally all you do is make phone calls.

And I can't imagine anyone using over 20GB of data a month on a smartphone unless they're using their wireless service to replace their home internet.
 
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