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Who the hell stops the students from being in the halls late after school and on saterday? I have swim practice saterday and I know that there is nobody there at all. Once you leave the area of the gym and pool just nothing.

Their school has out buildings connected together on the campus, so they lock all doors that lead to the main area where the lockers are. But, I see your point.
 
Why not?

At the end of the day, the OP made this thread asking for help, which comes with people's thoughts and opinions.

That's what the OP asked for.

No, he asked for advice and opinions on what to do about a stolen iPhone; not how to raise his child.

Some of these responses are unbelievable. Telling OP how to spend his money, or what he should/should not buy for his daughter. The OP simply asked if there was anything he could do about a stolen phone.
 
Raising a child is not about what makes you feel good. It is about what is best for them. Unfortunately this younger generation has this unbelievable sense of entitlement. We as parents don't help by giving them this stuff. You did not have it so your kids will. When children are "spoiled" with this stuff they grow up thinking they deserve it whether they can afford it or not. Often times it is why young people strap themselves in debt because they feel entitled. With that said, 14 year olds are just not responsible enough yet to have a $800 item. If I were you I would let it go, replace it with a cheap phone and let it be a real hard lesson for her to not leave valuables unattended around strangers.



I beg to differ. Theft can happen any where at any time. I have 3 teenagers with no issue at all. Did they earn their phones? Yes they did. Straight A's, volunteering, saving money.

Not sure where a lot of you get off thinking you know what's best for another's child.
 
Raising a child is not about what makes you feel good. It is about what is best for them. Unfortunately this younger generation has this unbelievable sense of entitlement. We as parents don't help by giving them this stuff. You did not have it so your kids will. When children are "spoiled" with this stuff they grow up thinking they deserve it whether they can afford it or not. Often times it is why young people strap themselves in debt because they feel entitled. With that said, 14 year olds are just not responsible enough yet to have a $800 item. If I were you I would let it go, replace it with a cheap phone and let it be a real hard lesson for her to not leave valuables unattended around strangers.

Well said. Although 14 years olds can be taught to be responsible with a $800 item with proper parenting. It depends on the kid.
 
No, he asked for advice and opinions on what to do about a stolen iPhone; not how to raise his child.

Some of these responses are unbelievable. Telling OP how to spend his money, or what he should/should not buy for his daughter. The OP simply asked if there was anything he could do about a stolen phone.

Thanks for telling me exactly what the other guy said.

Good job. You get a gold star.
 
Debit cards provide no insurance. They don't even provide the option to reverse fraudulent charges in most cases. Which is unfortunate given that they have the visa logo on them.

Not much chance of doing anything if you paid with a debit card or visa check card. It's the same as cash.

How does paying with a credit card help? It wasn't the store's fault the iPhone was stolen.
 
I would feel the same way. Also, if you're a parent of a kid that stole a phone, wouldn't you notice your kid had a brand new cellphone that you didn't buy them?

You are putting too much faith in parents, and too much faith in thieving children showing their parents what they have.

My mom (she was an awesome mom but she is old school Hungarian) wouldn't have noticed if I got a new phone if it looked remotely close to my old one. This is simply because she didn't grow up with technology, doesn't care about technology, and so, if she bought me a phone, and saw me with a phone, in her mind, it must have been the one she bought me. If I had a stitch in my underwear that was off though, she'd have known something was up lol.

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Cmon man you said you are going through a tough time yet you paid $650 plus tax to get your 14 year old a phone? I'm sure she will be more happy if she has food on the table and light to study under.

"Tough time" means very different things to very different people. TO the OP it is entirely possible to mean "I bought my daughter this gift with the bit of disposable income I had rather than going to Disneyland". Or... "I took an axtra three shifts at work so I could justify dropping the disposable income on this gift."

I am seriously so baffled at hw people are able to sit down, read a few sentences, and think they know something bout the OP's life. "Light to study under". If you think the OP traded that for an iPhone... why am I even here? lol
 
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OP, can you please tell us how you paid for the phone? Maybe we can provide some advice depending on the method of payment you chosed.
 
Raising a child is not about what makes you feel good. It is about what is best for them. Unfortunately this younger generation has this unbelievable sense of entitlement. We as parents don't help by giving them this stuff. You did not have it so your kids will. When children are "spoiled" with this stuff they grow up thinking they deserve it whether they can afford it or not. Often times it is why young people strap themselves in debt because they feel entitled. With that said, 14 year olds are just not responsible enough yet to have a $800 item. If I were you I would let it go, replace it with a cheap phone and let it be a real hard lesson for her to not leave valuables unattended around strangers.

School loans are by far the number one reason young people go into debt. There is verifiable proof all over everywhere for this. And part of that is because we tell everyone you are nothing without a college degree.

I don't disagree that kids are entitled these days. Even my generation is entitled. I still don;t see how or why this thread has been about that. The OP's daughter had a phone stolen out of her backpack at school... and we are talking about how he should raise their kids and entitlement.

If we want to talk about something, let's talk about arrogance. How arrogant does one have to be to start giving the OP lessons on parenting? In a response to a post before this one I asked "why am I here," but I figured it out. Reading the responses about what people think they know is amazing.
 
14 years old and an iphone 6...

i didnt even have a cellphone at 14.
LOL! How old are you? No teenagers had cell phones when I was 14 BECAUSE THERE WERE NO CELL PHONES BACK THEN.

It's a different world now. ALL teenagers have cell phones now even poor people have cell phones paid for by the government fees we all pay in our cell phone bills every month. It is a safety thing.

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And part of that is because we tell everyone you are nothing without a college degree.
People aren't nothing w/o a college degree but they aren't educated people w/o one. Many people graduate from high school barely literate and don't even get me started on the average person's math skills.

This is due primarily to the teacher's unions ruining the public schools, but I digress.

If you don't go to college you aren't nothing but you need to at least train to get some kind of vocational skills otherwise you are an unskilled worker making low wages and relying on government benefits for your family's health insurance, food assistance, heating assistance, etc. Oh, and free cell phones, lol!

And people who don't go to college but get vocational training, while they are skilled workers they aren't educated people.

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When I was 14 Lyndon Johnson & Fulgencio Batista were still alive. :mad:
Exactly, ALL teenagers now a days have cell phones even the ones whose family's are on food stamps. They get them free from the government.
 
Just wanted to say good luck OP with your situation. My car was broken into on Friday and had my iPod 5.5Gb and a backup bottle of medicine. Although nowhere near the value of your daughter's iPhone 6, I still feel violated. :/

I filed a police report, which won't do anything of course, but did it just incase. Hope you somehow get the phone back. In the mean time get your daughter a cheapo flip phone so at least you can contact her (since your still paying for the plan anyway); until you get your financial situation straightened out.
 
[/COLOR]People aren't nothing w/o a college degree but they aren't educated people w/o one. Many people graduate from high school barely literate and don't even get me started on the average person's math skills.

This is due primarily to the teacher's unions ruining the public schools, but I digress.

If you don't go to college you aren't nothing but you need to at least train to get some kind of vocational skills otherwise you are an unskilled worker making low wages and relying on government benefits for your family's health insurance, food assistance, heating assistance, etc. Oh, and free cell phones, lol!

And people who don't go to college but get vocational training, while they are skilled workers they aren't educated people.

I was merely commenting on how most young people get into debt as a response to another poster. Unfortunately, more and more jobs/occupations are requiring a degree than ever did before. And more and more folks are without work even who had degrees. In generations passed, a degree meant work. These days, not so much. Also, more and more students are dropping out of colleges for various reasons, not the least of which being they never wanted to be there or in that major in the first please, all the while incurring debt... because they were always told that is what you do.

That said, I agree with everything you said. Going off and getting a degree, in general, means you are more educated than a person who did not. I'd say most people going off and getting a degree don't do it for the great desire to be educated, sadly. Spending tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars on education, for the sake of education, simply doesn't make sense. Even adjusting for inflation, costs of schools are at astronomical and ridiculous levels compared to 20, 30, 40+ years ago.
 
My daughter had her iPhone 6 stolen from her backpack this evening while she was doing band practice. Come to find out, find my iPhone was off. It was dead when it got stolen.
I know this is heartbreaking and this advice is for the future, not now. Wells Fargo VISA offers insurance on your phones if you pay your cell phone bill with your WF VISA every month. Other credit cards may do the same you would have to check.

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I filed a police report, which won't do anything of course, but did it just incase.
My parent's home was broken into and of course they filed a police report. Over a year later, some of their stolen good were recovered when police raided a pawn shop that was trafficking in stolen goods. If it weren't for that police report, they would have not gotten their jewelry back!!!!
 
Unfortunately, more and more jobs/occupations are requiring a degree than ever did before.
It's not unfortunate, it is fortunate. People with only high school degrees are by and large ignorant of basic skills, like how to write and do basic arithmetic and are almost completely ignorant in their understanding of science.

And more and more folks are without work even who had degrees.
Because they pick idiotic majors like public relations or communications or general business because they don't want to work hard in college. Show me all of those unemployed computer science majors and I will feel bad for them.

In generations passed, a degree meant work.
A college degree is not and should not be all about getting a job. However, students do need to have a life plan - often times now that means graduate school.

I'd say most people going off and getting a degree don't do it for the great desire to be educated, sadly.
Yes but if they go to a half way decent school and aren't complete dolts, the education they receive transforms their minds and they end up valuing how their education improved them as human beings.

Spending tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars on education, for the sake of education, simply doesn't make sense.
To you. But you obviously don't value education other than as a means to get a job.
 
School loans are by far the number one reason young people go into debt. There is verifiable proof all over everywhere for this. And part of that is because we tell everyone you are nothing without a college degree.

I don't disagree that kids are entitled these days. Even my generation is entitled. I still don;t see how or why this thread has been about that. The OP's daughter had a phone stolen out of her backpack at school... and we are talking about how he should raise their kids and entitlement.

If we want to talk about something, let's talk about arrogance. How arrogant does one have to be to start giving the OP lessons on parenting? In a response to a post before this one I asked "why am I here," but I figured it out. Reading the responses about what people think they know is amazing.

I was not referring to school debt. I was referring to credit card debt. People that go out and buy stuff running up 10 & 20 thousand in credit card debt with out the means to pay it off in a timely manner. That is what I was referring to.
 
Does the school has security I would talk to them. Was the locker broke in into
or unlocked. It is clear that someone had to watch op daughter put iphone into backpack and then took it. I guess op should share his wireless provider see what options for insurance are. Years ago i left my windows phone (sprint) at church and no one had turned in so i paid my $50 deductible and got new phone was send to me. I see att let you buy device protection at any time.
Maybe posting flyers about reward.
 
I beg to differ. Theft can happen any where at any time. I have 3 teenagers with no issue at all. Did they earn their phones? Yes they did. Straight A's, volunteering, saving money.

Not sure where a lot of you get off thinking you know what's best for another's child.

Doing well in school is what they are supposed to do. That's like congratulating someone cause they have never been to prison!

Your not supposed to go to prison, staying out is not commendable.
 
I was not referring to school debt. I was referring to credit card debt. People that go out and buy stuff running up 10 & 20 thousand in credit card debt with out the means to pay it off in a timely manner. That is what I was referring to.

That's fair. I was merely pointing out that the people you mention are grossly outnumbered by those who have incurred incredible debts in the name of education that they have no way of repaying in a timely manner because they don't have an income to support that.

The real problem isn't a handful of idiots who don't know not to max out a credit card. The real problem is entire generations of people not being able to pay school loans. And the latter is becoming "the norm".
 
Doing well in school is what they are supposed to do.
Well, doing the best that THEY can is what they are supposed to do. If everyone was able to earn an A grade, then an A would be meaningless.

But still, you reward people for their hard work even if we are all supposed to work hard.
 
It's not unfortunate, it is fortunate. People with only high school degrees are by and large ignorant of basic skills, like how to write and do basic arithmetic and are almost completely ignorant in their understanding of science.

Because they pick idiotic majors like public relations or communications or general business because they don't want to work hard in college. Show me all of those unemployed computer science majors and I will feel bad for them.

A college degree is not and should not be all about getting a job. However, students do need to have a life plan - often times now that means graduate school.

Yes but if they go to a half way decent school and aren't complete dolts, the education they receive transforms their minds and they end up valuing how their education improved them as human beings.

To you. But you obviously don't value education other than as a means to get a job.

You're making some untrue assumptions about me. I absolutely value an education as more than getting a job. The problem is, many, MANY of people can't afford that. I was lucky enough that I was able to get my doctorate in a field that I have loved since I was eight years old. Luckily it also pays the bills. But when I was eight, and even when I was entering college, that is not at all what I was worried about.

Education has skyrocketed in price and, at the end of the day, being able to eat is, at least to me, very important. But kids are not taught that. They are told "go to school, incur this debt, and you will be able to pay it off". And what's worse, it's not only students, its a lot of their parents incurring tens of thousands in debt as well. My mom, who raised me just above the poverty line had to take out $15,000 loans to get me through my undergraduate. It was either that, or, "you don't get to go son".

And to be fair, I am speaking about the US education system, not elsewhere (for you and anyone else reading, being that this is a multinational forum)

As far as unemployed computer science majors... India and China are becoming popular sectors for outsourcing work. There are plenty of unemployed conouter science folks. There are equally as many employed individuals in the field who either never went to school, or never finished. Computer science is, actually, one of the fields where your degree doesn't nexessarily matter.
 
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Because they pick idiotic majors like public relations or communications or general business because they don't want to work hard in college. Show me all of those unemployed computer science majors and I will feel bad for them.

I've never heard of a business degree being an idiotic avenue. Hmm I wonder if those who spend so much are Wharton idiots??
 
14 is too young to have an iPhone....iPad would be the best choice and a normal flip phone until maybe 2 years later.

Thanks for the parent advice but that's not what the thread was about.

Edit: oh god I had no idea the thread had devolved into a panel of armchair paternity experts. Way to stay on-topic.
 
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I've never heard of a business degree being an idiotic avenue. Hmm I wonder if those who spend so much are Wharton idiots??

Some of the top unemployment rates in the country, based in degrees, are nutrition, horticulture, architecture, civil engineering, animal studies, and zoology. All of these are well into double digits. I guess they are idiotic majors too that people attend because they don't want to work hard in school... Smh.
 
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