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There are just too many assumptions being made here. I guess nobody was ever in band...

It's pretty typical to leave your backpack or back either on the back of your seat or under it. I wouldn't consider this "unattended". When in the middle of rehearsal, it's pretty easy for a person to swipe a bag. Could have been as a joke, on a dare, whatever. Our wind ensemble was about 300 members; needless to say it got pretty loud. I would not have noticed if people were stealing things out of my backpack 100%.

Regardless, I am unsure why so many people are here to judge. The OP was looking for people, perhaps with experience having lost their device, on how to try and get it back. The fact that people are so focused on the age of the person who the device was stolen from shows their own level of maturity rather clearly.


How does OP expect to get it back beyond what he already knows?
 
Why do people care so much about other parents giving their kids cell phones? The whole "I didn't have one when I was a kid, so today's kids don't need one" is logically irrelevant. Like it or not, technology is a huge part of our society. If parents aren't teaching their children how to use technology wisely, who is?

To be clear, I completely support parents that choose to wait as long as possible before allowing their kids to have cell phones. But I am certainly against those that choose to judge others for having a different perspective.

From reading the thread so far my understanding was that it has nothing really to do with parents buying their kids "cell phones". It's more about the fact that the OP stated that he spent over $800 on his 14-year-old's iPhone. That's a very expensive investment for a 14-year-old. But I suppose it's not for most people that have plenty of disposable income. IMO any phone would've been good for a 14-year-old.
 
From reading the thread so far my understanding was that it has nothing really to do with parents buying their kids "cell phones". It's more about the fact that the OP stated that he spent over $800 on his 14-year-old's iPhone. That's a very expensive investment for a 14-year-old. But I suppose it's not for most people that have plenty of disposable income. IMO any phone would've been good for a 14-year-old.

Exactly and the OP lamented that money is really tight.

What hurts so bad is that money is real tight right now. Like real tight but I tend to follow my heart sometime over my brain. I knew she wanted this phone bad so I did some really hard things to make it happen and now this?!. I feel so bad.

If I told my parents I wanted something like that at 14, they would have told me to go sleep and dream about it because it's not happening. I like to spoil them in ways I know I could have not been. It makes me feel good.
 
As one possible option, in addition to the message you sent using the lost phone system:

I know that on my phone, incoming text messages are displayed even in the lock screen.

I'd send it a text with your contact phone number and try not to sound like you're going to press charges or seem threatening.

If I were a kid, I'd likely throw the phone away if I got a threatening message on a phone I took.

Send it a friendly message, and a kid who had realized they can't use it, might hand it to an adult and claim they "found" it.

Send it a message periodically and see if you have any luck.
 
From reading the thread so far my understanding was that it has nothing really to do with parents buying their kids "cell phones". It's more about the fact that the OP stated that he spent over $800 on his 14-year-old's iPhone. That's a very expensive investment for a 14-year-old. But I suppose it's not for most people that have plenty of disposable income. IMO any phone would've been good for a 14-year-old.

Very fair assessment of the situation.
 
Thank you so much for the nice words but right now, things are sooooooooo tight, I won't be able to do that. When I got her that phone, it really was all I had. I'm going through some very tough times and sometimes my fault is I tend to follow my heart and not my brain. When I bought it for her birthday, I knew it was going to be very hard on me but knowing how happy she was going to be made it all worth it especially knowing she's been working hard on her school and doing good. Hopefully things will get better.

This post really upset me, you seem like a good parent who just wants your kid to be happy.
I'm really sorry that this happened to you and your daughter, it's so disgusting that people feel like they have a right to just take something that others have worked hard for.
If I could afford it, i'd buy you an iPhone 6 and send it to you.
Again, i'm really sorry about this, i'm also sorry about the people on here who feel like they need to chastise you.
 
This post really upset me, you seem like a good parent who just wants your kid to be happy.
I'm really sorry that this happened to you and your daughter, it's so disgusting that people feel like they have a right to just take something that others have worked hard for.
If I could afford it, i'd buy you an iPhone 6 and send it to you.
Again, i'm really sorry about this, i'm also sorry about the people on here who feel like they need to chastise you.

I don't understand that mindset. If money is really tight and the person sacrificed to buy a $800 phone for himself but had it stolen from not properly securing it, we can say "Be more careful next time and try not to live beyond your means." However, if it's for the kid, we're the bad guys for saying this?
 
It will get sold on ebay or craigslist for parts as it isn't usable to the thief. Unfortunately there isn't much or really anything you can do to get it back.

actually, it's very usable if find my iPhone was turned off. all the thief has to do is restore it and bam! new iPhone. OP, blacklist the phone's imei ASAP
 
I don't understand that mindset. If money is really tight and the person sacrificed to buy a $800 phone for himself but had it stolen from not properly securing it, we can say "Be more careful next time and try not to live beyond your means." However, if it's for the kid, we're the bad guys for saying this?

I don't think it's ever appropriate for people to chastise anyone on how they spend their money, especially if that person didn't ask for advice on how they spend their money.

I'd think you guys were wrong even if the phone was for him, and he was the one who lost it.

He didn't make this thread for financial advice, he made it for help in seeing what he could do to possibly get his daughter's phone back.
 
I don't think it's ever appropriate for people to chastise anyone on how they spend their money, especially if that person didn't ask for advice on how they spend their money.

I'd think you guys were wrong even if the phone was for him, and he was the one who lost it.

He didn't make this thread for financial advice, he made it for help in seeing what he could do to possibly get his daughter's phone back.

I agree. The only reason this thread got derailed is the OP gave out too much information.
 
If find my iPhone is off the thief will remove the sim then put iPhone in DFU mode by pressing and holding home button and power button and by connecting to iTunes. Then iTunes will restore everything on iPhone to factory settings. And iPhone can be activated again.

Before you blacklist the imei check Craigslist ads and before you meet the person ask for imei to see if it matches yours. When you meet thief cal 911 and bring police report and store receipt with you.
 
I started my kids out on MyTouch 3's and they earned my trust in how they handled them. Eventually when we upraded, they got our 4S's and now I have the i6 and they have our i5's with carrier insurance.

They are 14 & 15 now (Highschool) and know how to use them and are very responsible with them. I need to have communications with them at all times and I want to be able to contact them if I need to and vise versa. Can't do that on a friends/parents or strangers phone. This is not fair to the OP to judge him. It is his decision and his only.
 
This post really upset me, you seem like a good parent who just wants your kid to be happy.
I'm really sorry that this happened to you and your daughter, it's so disgusting that people feel like they have a right to just take something that others have worked hard for.
If I could afford it, i'd buy you an iPhone 6 and send it to you.
Again, i'm really sorry about this, i'm also sorry about the people on here who feel like they need to chastise you.

Thank you for being kind and understanding :)
 
I started my kids out on MyTouch 3's and they earned my trust in how they handled them. Eventually when we upraded, they got our 4S's and now I have the i6 and they have our i5's with carrier insurance.

They are 14 & 15 now (Highschool) and know how to use them and are very responsible with them. I need to have communications with them at all times and I want to be able to contact them if I need to and vise versa. Can't do that on a friends/parents or strangers phone. This is not fair to the OP to judge him. It is his decision and his only.

That's because you taught them to be responsible with their devices. For those who aren't, a $20 cell phone does the same job of being able to contact them at all times.
 
From a non-tech side (and sorry I haven't read all the posts), have you tried contacting the school? If it was stolen in the evening during band practice then there must have been only a small group of students around. Or perhaps put up posters at the school with a reward?
 
OP, I truly hope it turns up.

In 1999 I had my car broken into at my friends house (he lived in the outskirts of the suburbs bordering the country too) and 400 CDs, my CD changer, radar detector, and amp/subwoofer stolen. None of it was in plain sight. I got everything but the CD changer back a month later because crooks are frack'n dumb and I filed a police report. Not saying you'll get it back, but you never know, and I hope you do.

All that being said, is there a reason why Find My iPhone enabled? I'd do it just so I knew where my kid (and their phone) were at that age for piece of mind, not because I wouldn't trust my kid, but because there are too many F'd up people in this world who F with kids. I read through 85% of this thread and didn't see anyone ask that or any answer to that. Sorry if I missed it.

This situation is precisely why Apple builds Find My iPhone into every iOS device and gives it to you for free. It's been one of the most touted features of iOS/iDevices for several years. The moral here is enable it. Every device. Every time.

Good luck
 
At our High school, students are not allowed in the main part of the school after hours. They can't go to their lockers to lock up their belongings. The only option for her was to not bring her phone, put it in her pocket or ask the teacher to put her backpack it in a locked safe place. It DOES happen, so the best thing to do is to have Find my iPhone enabled and have carrier insurance that covers Loss/Theft/Damage just for that reason.

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Just wanted to say that my kids aren't interested in a bigger iPhone. They want to put them in their pockets. So, maybe you should think about buying a used 5 or 5S for her instead?
 
Will check that out. It's a debit card so not sure. Thanks

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What hurts so bad is that money is real tight right now. Like real tight but I tend to follow my heart sometime over my brain. I knew she wanted this phone bad so I did some really hard things to make it happen and now this?!. I feel so bad.

Don't beat your self up over this. trying to be a good father to your child is priceless, and my prayers goes out to you and your daughter. I am praying that there will be a happy ending to this unfortunate ordeal. Keep your head up and keep up the good work on being the best father you can be to your child. We need more fathers like you. There are so many children that are without fathers these days. And I will say again being the best father you can be for your child is priceless, good luck to you and your daughter cheers.
 
If you are calling me immature, just come out and say it rather than resorting to snide remarks.

So you'd be happy leaving your £600 in a bag where anyone could just take it out and walk off with it? And no, most insurance policies would not cover it. As far as they are concerned, having an item taken from a bag which is out of sight to the point which you wouldn't see someone remove an item from it is unattended.

I wasn't calling you immature. No snide remarks at all.

I put my phone in my bag all the time. Among other places, the gym (at my building). It's a calculated risk. I am, generally speaking, within eyesight and 50 feet of it at all times.

And since we are talking about a band class, you know what else is common practice? Bringing your many hundred to thousand dollar instrument into the band room and leaving it every morning trusting that it will be there whatever period your class is and then after school when you go and pick it up.

But all of this doesn't matter. I repeat, the OP wasn;t asking for parenting advice. He was asking about what some steps might be to get the phone back. Almost nobody provided him that.

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How does OP expect to get it back beyond what he already knows?

I think that is why he asked, no? He wasn't sure if there were any options that he didn't yet exhaust. So he asked on an Apple forum, where people might know. Instead people took this a completely different direction. I maintain that his mistake was mentioning the circumstances. He gave us but a dot of information ont he timeline that is his life and folks are analyzing the type of parent he is. It's simply ridiculous.
 
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