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Blackmagic Design today announced a new update to its professional video editing and color correction software, DaVinci Resolve, featuring Touch Bar support on compatible MacBook Pros.

The 12.5.4 update brings context sensitive tools to the OLED keyboard strip that dynamically change based on the current task. For example, on the Media page, users can instantly add the current clip to a bin, switch between icon and list view, display clip attributes, search media and show metadata simply by tapping on the Touch Bar.

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When editing video, the Touch Bar is context sensitive and displays commands based on whether the media pool, source viewer or timeline are selected. Customers can quickly switch between trim modes, navigate the timeline and perform different types of edits without ever having to use the mouse or pull down menus.

Colorists can use the Touch Bar to do everything from adjusting primary sliders and color wheels, to changing mid tone detail, saturation, tint and more. The Touch Bar can be used to save or wipe gallery stills, toggle viewer modes, work with split screen mode to compare shots and even use multi touch gestures to adjust multiple color parameters, such as printer lights, at the same time.
The update also brings support for Rec. 2100, a superset of Rec. 2020 that defines high dynamic range (HDR) formats. New sliders have been added to control Dolby VisionTM analysis data, while support has been added for Grass Valley HQ and HQX codecs on Mac, among other additions.

The DaVinci Resolve and DaVinci Resolve Studio 12.5.4 update is now available for download from the Blackmagic Design website for all current DaVinci Resolve users. DaVinci Resolve is a free download on the Mac App Store for individual users; Resolve Studio, the enhanced group collaboration editing suite, costs $995.

Article Link: DaVinci Resolve Video Editing Suite Update Brings Touch Bar Support and More
 

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Good to see PRO APPLICATIONS getting on board so quickly with the touch bar. Hopefully the annoying noise coming from touch bar haters will begin to die down.
 
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Good to see PRO APPLICATIONS getting on board so quickly with the touch bar. Hopefully the annoying noise coming from touch bar haters will begin to die down.
The touch bar offers very little for pros. I'd rather move my mouse around the screen than engage in the horrible ergonomic insanity that is the touch bar. Using it just confuses me. Why does anyone think that this makes things better? A touchscreen would be much better.

I'll keep my hand on my mouse thank you.
 

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The touch bar offers very little for pros. I'd rather move my mouse around the screen than engage in the horrible ergonomic insanity that is the touch bar. Using it just confuses me. Why does anyone think that this makes things better? A touchscreen would be much better.

I'll keep my hand on my mouse thank you.

Well the MacBook Pro is used a lot in creative endeavours such as editing with the incredibly powerful fcpx. And the touch bar is intuitive and speeds up the work flow. Editing or designing in a computer with touch screen would strike me as an unergonomic use of the tool. You would have fingerprints all over the very screen you need to see fine detail ala photoshop fcpx etc. For me it would be counterproductive. The touchbar circumvents this. Well done Apple

(A touch screen phone ? That will never catch on
An iPad? That will never catch on...
Music streaming ? That will never catch on ...

And
Touchbar...
Airpods....)[/QUOTE]
 

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The touch bar offers very little for pros. I'd rather move my mouse around the screen than engage in the horrible ergonomic insanity that is the touch bar. Using it just confuses me. Why does anyone think that this makes things better? A touchscreen would be much better.

So a touchscreen is more ergonomic then the touchbar? Nice logic there :rolleyes:
 

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The touch bar offers very little for pros. I'd rather move my mouse around the screen than engage in the horrible ergonomic insanity that is the touch bar. Using it just confuses me. Why does anyone think that this makes things better? A touchscreen would be much better.

I'll keep my hand on my mouse thank you.

Isn't a touchscreen a longer reach and a higher one?

I like keyboard shortcuts as my hand is already there and it's parallel to my mouse. I'm used to using even the 4 key shortcuts in photoshop. It would be hard to look down at a dynamic display to press keys or even worse reach out every time to press a screen.
 
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The touch bar offers very little for pros. I'd rather move my mouse around the screen than engage in the horrible ergonomic insanity that is the touch bar. Using it just confuses me. Why does anyone think that this makes things better? A touchscreen would be much better.

I'll keep my hand on my mouse thank you.
So a touchscreen (that requires using gorilla arm tactics) is more ergonomic than the touch bar (which is exactly where the function keys used to live)?
 
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Just wondering...
I think the touchbar can be cool... but...

Wouldn't it be cooler if there was an iPad extension, like attach your ipad and each program/software can turn the iPad screen into a touch screen control panel with quick access to button and controls... you can use an iphone too.
 
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Just wondering...
I think the touchbar can be cool... but...

Wouldn't it be cooler if there was an iPad extension, like attach your ipad and each program/software can turn the iPad screen into a touch screen control panel with quick access to button and controls... you can use an iphone too.

I was working on this very idea back in the day, I hope it still comes to fruition especially with localised haptic feedback in the form of 3D/Force Touch! :)

I've posted an indepth look here on the forums (looking at the ideas/interfaces we were playing with):

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/input-the-app-that-never-happened.1361825/
 

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So a touchscreen (that requires using gorilla arm tactics) is more ergonomic than the touch bar (which is exactly where the function keys used to live)?
I think both approaches are wrong. I'd much rather Apple focus on more power, better display (perfect blacks would be awesome), and a fanless cooling system. The ergonomics of a traditional laptop, sans touchscreen/bar, is just fine in my opinion. I bought the 13" MBP no touchbar and really love it...but it is significantly overpriced for the performance you get.
 
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From the beginning I thought that a strip of keyboard that changes with context can't possibly be a bad thing, and a strip makes more sense than discrete dynamic keys because you can turn a strip into keys but you can't turn keys into a slider. That dramatically broadens its potential.

I swear I'm saving all these whiny posts about the touch bar to be reposted when the thing takes off. The rapid pace of devs playing with it should be a clue to the haters that Apple may (shudder... no way!) be on to something.
 

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I'd much rather Apple focus on more power, better display (perfect blacks would be awesome), and a fanless cooling system.

What you wanted in bold contradicts each other as more power will require better thermal, and fans is needed to pull in cold air and push the hot air out.

At the moment, Nvidia cards run at 75W and above requiring what I've just mentioned, whereas the Radeon Pros runs at 35W and while still requiring fans, is able to operate at lower temperatures at a longer time (hence less fan noise). They're some videos on YouTube where the reviewer remarked that the new MBPs is much quieter then last gen models.

Perfect blacks will only happen when Apple moves to OLED panels. And Apple still have to wait for the OLED panels to support at least the color space Apple used in the current gen MBPs. Other then that, what other problems do the MBPs have with their displays? If I recall it also has one of the brightest displays in a notebook
 

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DaVinci Resolve is really exciting software. It honestly is a better software now then Final Cut Pro X. For me, I might have to make a larger switch to Resolve
Really? The new fcpx is mindblowingly sophisticated and powerful. It's literally incredible. And it's like few people still seem to realise how amazing it has become
 
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It seems crazy this is free. As someone who uses FCP X for editing my crappy YouTube videos, should I consider switching? Is it better?
 

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The touch bar offers very little for pros. I'd rather move my mouse around the screen than engage in the horrible ergonomic insanity that is the touch bar. Using it just confuses me. Why does anyone think that this makes things better? A touchscreen would be much better.

I'll keep my hand on my mouse thank you.
I can see it for scrubbing and transport controls that don't move around from window to window.

Otherwise, memorizing keystrokes that you can use without looking is the way to go.

Same is true for CAD. Once you use pro software for a while, no matter how complicated, fixed location keys become more useful than any dynamic display.

And losing the f keys and keys for volume is a ridiculous trade off.
 
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Well the MacBook Pro is used a lot in creative endeavours such as editing with the incredibly powerful fcpx. And the touch bar is intuitive and speeds up the work flow.

no, it does not. compare looking down at the touch bar, taking your fingers off the home row keys, doing whatever you do on the touch bar and putting your fingers back on the touch bar vs. blindly hitting a keyboard shortcut and geting on with the next thing you want to do. it might be a speedup for people who don't work often with one particular software, but even then you're usually faster learning (and modifying) the keyboard shortcuts as you go along than taking your hand away from the keyboard and your gaze away from the screen. imho, it still made sense to remove some of the function keys (but keep the volume/escape/screen brightness buttons). it just doesn't look very good or deliver much extra functionality besides increasing the price of the mbp.
 

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no, it does not. compare looking down at the touch bar, taking your fingers off the home row keys, doing whatever you do on the touch bar and putting your fingers back on the touch bar vs. blindly hitting a keyboard shortcut and geting on with the next thing you want to do. it might be a speedup for people who don't work often with one particular software, but even then you're usually faster learning (and modifying) the keyboard shortcuts as you go along than taking your hand away from the keyboard and your gaze away from the screen. imho, it still made sense to remove some of the function keys (but keep the volume/escape/screen brightness buttons). it just doesn't look very good or deliver much extra functionality besides increasing the price of the mbp.
Let's agree to disagree. You have your workflow. I have mine. I work in the creative industry. It speeds things up for me. The end.
 

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Let's agree to disagree. You have your workflow. I have mine. I work in the creative industry. It speeds things up for me. The end.

o.k., agreed. i'm a creative professional as well, and i can't imagine working faster with it compared to keyboard shortcuts. it probably beats hunting things with the mouse, though, but i can't afford that anyway. whatever works for you though. i still like the idea of the touch-bar, i just don't want to pay extra for it.
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It seems crazy this is free. As someone who uses FCP X for editing my crappy YouTube videos, should I consider switching? Is it better?

it's more technical (but easier to work with in a large production environment, because it adheres more to standards), uses the "old" track based system, and needs more powerful hardware than fcpx. on the other hand, it evolved from a pretty powerful color grading software and can do much, much more in this regard.
 
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o.k., agreed. i'm a creative professional as well, and i can't imagine working faster with it compared to keyboard shortcuts. it probably beats hunting things with the mouse, though, but i can't afford that anyway. whatever works for you though. i still like the idea of the touch-bar, i just don't want to pay extra for it.
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it's more technical (but easier to work with in a large production environment, because it adheres more to standards), uses the "old" track based system, and needs more powerful hardware than fcpx. on the other hand, it evolved from a pretty powerful grading software and can do much, much more in this regard.
I hear what you're saying as I'm super fast due to my keyboard shortcuts too. I barely use the mouse. But I have a feeling u may change your outlook as time goes on ...
 

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So a touchscreen (that requires using gorilla arm tactics) is more ergonomic than the touch bar (which is exactly where the function keys used to live)?
If I had to choose between a full screen and that odd bar....I'd choose the screen. Having used both....I can make that statement. The screen is more natural.
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Isn't a touchscreen a longer reach and a higher one?

I like keyboard shortcuts as my hand is already there and it's parallel to my mouse. I'm used to using even the 4 key shortcuts in photoshop. It would be hard to look down at a dynamic display to press keys or even worse reach out every time to press a screen.
Reaching out means you can keep your eyes on the screen. Using the touch bar requires moving your eyes,head, and hands in an unerganomic fashion.
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So a touchscreen is more ergonomic then the touchbar? Nice logic there :rolleyes:
Yes it is. Your head, eyes, and neck do not move.
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Well the MacBook Pro is used a lot in creative endeavours such as editing with the incredibly powerful fcpx. And the touch bar is intuitive and speeds up the work flow. Editing or designing in a computer with touch screen would strike me as an unergonomic use of the tool. You would have fingerprints all over the very screen you need to see fine detail ala photoshop fcpx etc. For me it would be counterproductive. The touchbar circumvents this. Well done Apple

(A touch screen phone ? That will never catch on
An iPad? That will never catch on...
Music streaming ? That will never catch on ...

And
Touchbar...
Airpods....)
[/QUOTE]
Call me when you've used a touch screen. You'll see what I mean. The touch bar is a pos!
[doublepost=1481751619][/doublepost]I feel like some of you would praise Apple if the MacBook had a touchscreen instead of insulting me. Typical though.
 

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I feel like some of you would praise Apple if the MacBook had a touchscreen instead of insulting me. Typical though.
Haha, that won't be me, I totally despise the idea of a touchscreen notebook, the last thing I would want is fingerprints on my notebook screen. Tablets is fine cause of its form factor and use case

Well the thing is, they're many people saying stuffs (most of it negative) about the touch bar when they never even used it. So unless you mentioned before that you've used both over some period of time, then you should expect people questioning what you've just said. And usually, those who hate the touchbar, also hates touchscreen notebooks
 

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What you wanted in bold contradicts each other as more power will require better thermal, and fans is needed to pull in cold air and push the hot air out.

At the moment, Nvidia cards run at 75W and above requiring what I've just mentioned, whereas the Radeon Pros runs at 35W and while still requiring fans, is able to operate at lower temperatures at a longer time (hence less fan noise). They're some videos on YouTube where the reviewer remarked that the new MBPs is much quieter then last gen models.

Perfect blacks will only happen when Apple moves to OLED panels. And Apple still have to wait for the OLED panels to support at least the color space Apple used in the current gen MBPs. Other then that, what other problems do the MBPs have with their displays? If I recall it also has one of the brightest displays in a notebook
Figure it out, Apple. That's where the innovation comes in.
True, I have the 13" non touchbar and I have yet to hear the fan, but I'm not doing much heavy lifting. Still, fanless would be nice. Whatever happened to liquid cooling? There has to be a better solution than a freaking fan. I mean, Laptops have always had them - can't we figure this one out?
The current MBP display is the best yet but those blacks are okay at best. OLED in a MBP - or any Apple laptop - will never happen. More likely Apple develops its own self-illuminating pixel display so they don't have to rely on competitors for their panels. We may see an OLED iPad and iPhone next year, but my guess is that will only last one generation before Apple replaces it with their own display tech. And really, OLED on a laptop has so many drawbacks it's not worth the perfect blacks. But I still want them. :)
 
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