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Daylight Savings Time to be Extended in US?
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Gee, why not just tax gas guzzlers to the point that they end up being recycled to create more fuel efficient cars?
Chip NoVaMac said:
because that would be too effective...shhhhhhhh!!
i can see the positives of this DST, but it should be optional on a state by state basis still
Chip NoVaMac said:
I would buy more fuel efficient cars if they made some I enjoyed driving and fit into, as well as haul the things that I need to haul on a regular basis....but they don't, so I don't buy them
Until then, I will be staying with my current truck. But at least it isn't the most horrible one out there....I do get between 17-20 in mixed driving.
yoda13 said:I would buy more fuel efficient cars if they made some I enjoyed driving and fit into....but they don't, so I don't buy them
thats understandable, but the Car Industry can make more fuel efficent cars, they just dont and have not started to until recently, they certainly could improve the archiecture of their vehicles so that it was always using fuel to the best of its power, but they have not implemented it, it might make the car a bit more complicated, but it would work.....
I liked California's Idea a few years ago, Start DST the First Weekend of March, then add another hour before Memorial Day, Subtract an hour the last week of September, go back to ST before Thanksgiving (US).
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Daylight Savings Time is one of the most idiotic concepts we have around today. I cannot believe that people actually signed on to the concept of arbitrarily moving clocks around twice a year. If I were around when this idea first started, I would have mocked those people mercilessly.
Back in Indianapolis, a lot of us referred to it as "playing headgames with your clock" I don't get it either.. I find it difficult to believe the lost productivity brought upon by changing clocks around costs that much less than whatever energy savings are realized.Lacero said:
I also agree with the earlier poster that said the effort and money would be better spent working on alternative energy sources... The "dark in the morning" crowd seem to understand that there is a sun up there, but I still don't see anyone doing anything that matters with solar energy, as an example.
You buy more charcoal, beer, and franks with that hour of light in the evening. Helps the economy out, or so I hear.
MacNut said:Its not really daylight savings, its more like more light in the evenings.
Exactly, its so that Congress can play golf in the evening. They need a little exercise after a long day of doing nothing. The time change definitely wasn't done to help farmers.
wdlove said:
Not just Congress; it's so everyone has more light in the evening. Do you prefer it when the sun sets before 6pm? I personally wish they'd keep Daylight Savings year round - I would love if it stayed lighter even the tiniest bit later in the winter.
Much in the same way that I don't try to open oysters with my hands or teeth, I also have a comfortable relationship with other tools, like electric lights. I cannot believe that in 2005, we're debating about the need to jerk around with an already arbitrary construct like time. You want more light? Move towards the equator. The number on the clock has no effect on how much light there is in a day.. and the idea of "later" or "earlier" is completely in your head.sarae said:
You act like the term later and earlier are imaginary. Although they are relative terms they are still very practical in our daily lives. Of course we're not giving anyone "more" daylight, but shifting our clocks against the period of daylight helps some people and hinders others - this discussion is to find the right balance that works well for our society's needs at the moment.IndyGopher said:
I understand your point that the numbers associated with the time of day are arbitrary, as we could assign them however we want. We could make it light all night and dark all day. However, how you assign those numbers can be more or less practical based on saving electicity and in turn fossil fuels. It can also be changed based on the needs and preferences of the majority. I understand not everyone will agree on the subject as some people would rather have sunrise earlier (according to our practical clock) and some would rather have a later sunset, like myself.
Of course, the the Earth would still rotate without an abstract concept of time and we'll still orbit around the sun without a calendar. Still, clocks and calendars are useful tools in our daily lives, just like the tools you use to open oysters and light your home. You act like we should abolish our entire time structure. Yes, it's fabricated... but that doesn't mean it is useless. If you think this debate is pointless, why chime in?
BTW, moving towards the equator won't give you any more sunlight either. Every spot on Earth gets the same amount of daylight annually. It is just different in how it is distributed throughout the days and seasons.
Macaddicttt said:
Hmmm.
Since daylight savings time is actually an American invention the rest of the world has been doing it somewhat like us.
Benjamin Franklin was the creator of Daylight Savings time.
yoda13 said:
I am pretty sure that states only have a choice if they cover more than one timezone.
I wonder if the changes to Indiana will be included in this....we currently don't observe DST and never change our clocks.
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Mr. Anderson said:
Well actually part of your state does. The Eastern Time Zone portion of Indiana doesnt. But the Central Time zone portion does.
Many people in Indiana don't ever know what time it is
Just look at the following and you will see what I mean
US and Indiana law create three different time arrangements in the Hoosier State:
76 counties (including state capital Indianapolis) are in the Eastern Time Zone but do not change to Daylight time in April; instead they remain on Standard Time all year long;
11 counties -- six near Chicago, IL, and five near Evansville, IN, are in the Central Time Zone and use both Central Standard and Central Daylight; and
five other counties -- two near Cincinnati, OH, and three near Louisville, KY -- are in the Eastern Time Zone but use both Eastern Standard and Eastern Daylight. [green on map and chart]
IndyGopher said:
Well, yes, I know that there isn't "more" time, but I am NOT a morning person by any means. So that's the purely selfish reason: there would be more time, since I would be awake for more of it. (I know, wake up earlier... not gonna happen.) What would you rather have - daylight as you're getting up and heading to work, or daylight after work, when you can actually enjoy it?
kingjr3 said:
I pretty sure that states can choose no matter what. Arizona doesn't have it and I believe they only have one time zone. Hawaii doesn't have it and I'm sure they don't cover more than one time zone.
DST has been changed several times before to save energy, and the dates when DST starts/ends have changed over time. They've even studied if switching to DST causes sleepy drivers to have more accidents for a day or two, and found that it wasn't a problem.