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Daylight Savings Time to be Extended in US?
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Why don't we get rid of time all together and just start over from scratch, including calendars and the like. We could remake the length of a second and a minute etc. so we don't end up with this 1/4 day crap that results in a leap year. That'll fix everybody's wagon.
So, how do you propose to accelerate or decelerate the rotation of the Earth so that a whole number of rotations (365.0000) are made for each revolution around the Sun?leftbanke7 said:
They've already done that in India... the entire country, as large (wide) as it is, is all on ONE time zone, 30 minutes out of phase with the rest of the world's time zones.Lacero said:
wdlove said:
I guess you missed my earlier post about Indiana's time zone/DST problems
They do it the least intelligent of any of them
Just bumping up this thread; the House and Senate agreed to extend Daylight Savings.. will start three weeks earlier in March and end one week later in the fall.
Link to Cnn's article
Link to Cnn's article
Thanks for letting us know. I didn't hear about this on the news. This has an adverse affect that's not mentioned: When the start of Daylight Savings Time coincides with April Fool's day, it's handy for clock pranks, such as setting your coworkers clock an hour different in the wrong direction. Heh heh. Oh well.sarae said:
Does this mean that livestock wear watches? Or is this bill going to change the behavior of the sun, rather than just the habits of Americans?
crazzyeddie said:
President Bush will sign the bill as long as it has the provisions that he's interesting in having. He has been calling for a national energy policy for years. It is something that we need, the United States needs to become more sufficient.
Not really sure that the change of daylight savings time makes any sense. The whole idea is government interference. Happy to see that they plan to do a study to find the efficacy of this proposal.
Yes, I believe he did, or at least it was in that general time period. And several school children were run over while getting on or waiting for busses in Florida that year. I believe that Florida refused to go on DST the following year because of that.Inspector Lee said:
clayj said:
China does that as well.
Daylight Savings makes more sense the farther north you go.
In LA, at a measly 30 degrees latitude Dec 21st has a sunrise at 6:55 AM. If that were to be 7:55 AM that wouldn't really be a disaster
Up here in Vancouver (49 degrees latitude) the sun doesn't come up until 8:05 on that day, making it 9:05 would mean a significant amount or morning activity in the dark! You have no idea how depressing it is to go to work before the sun comes up, and leave work after it goes down.
Now, if we move to another major city, Edmonton (54 degrees latitude) a non-daylight-savings world would get sunrise at 9:49 AM! They'd be done their morning coffee already before they got to enjoy some light.
This is actually causing a stir in Canada, because for economic (trade) reasons we would probably have to follow; US companies get confused enough with the different thanksgiving, different times would be too much. Following this system is going to mean some pretty nasty sunrise and sunsets for major Canadian cities.
Going the other way doesn't work very well either (kill "Standard time" and just stay on daylight) -- as it is the sun for me is coming up at 5:30 in the morning right now (1/2 hour later than it was a month ago). I really don't relish 4 AM sunrises -- I would never get any sleep!
We don't have daylight savings time here in my province - we're the only province that doesn't change our clocks back or forwards. It can get confusing when dealing with people in other provinces, being in CST and MDT depending on the time of year, but it is quite fun being stubborn.
Franklin didn't suggest DST just that people should get up earlier.William Willet first proposed it(quite possibly thousands of others thought of it first).~loserman~ said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time
Sorry for double post will read all postings before jumping in in future.
~Shard~ said:We don't have daylight savings time here in my province - we're the only province that doesn't change our clocks back or forwards. It can get confusing when dealing with people in other provinces, being in CST and MDT depending on the time of year, but it is quite fun being stubborn.
Ahh, yes. I remember looking for a place to have a beer with lunch on one trip there, and getting really strange stares.
Finally, I realized that having crossed a timezone + losing daylight savings, it wasn't 11:30 in the morning, it was 9:30...
Speaking of which, I have never understood the term daylight "savings". Right now I get approximately 16 hours of sunlight a day. I don't need to save any of it, there's already too much!
Now, in the winter when I'm getting 8 hours of sun (assuming its not clouded over and raining, which is pretty much a given here at that time of year) -- that's when I would be happy to "save" some daylight
Macaddicttt said:
Yep, one time zone, although a Native American reservation does observe DST, which seems a little weird... I was recently having an argument what time zone Arizona is in. Technically, it's Mountain. But half of the year it's on Pacific time, so it doesn't really make complete sense. Whatever though, I've lived here all my life an never had to change clocks, I'm not complaining
stcanard said:
Heh heh - regardless of the time change, you simply weren't going to the right places...
This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Usually I don't mind when the Americans do something dumb like this, but this also effects us in Canada. If Canada doesn't also change time with the US, we will for 2 non consecutive months a year, be off by one hour from people in the same time zone as us.
Usually I don't mind when the Americans do something dumb like this, but this also effects us in Canada. If Canada doesn't also change time with the US, we will for 2 non consecutive months a year, be off by one hour from people in the same time zone as us.
IndyGopher said:
Interestingly, this time of year the sun actually sets earlier in the equator than up north. Puerto Rico is dark by 7:30-8 PM IIRC from when I spent summers there.
wdlove said:
wdlove, I am not sure that I agree with you on Bush's desire for a national energy policy. So much more could and should have been done to increase the CAFE figures given the change in the global "oil climate". Count me as one that doubts this White House's resolve to protect the energy reserves of this nation, or to protect the people from the "oil barons" here in the US.