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Recently upgraded to M1 Pro 16 and it’s an amazing computer. Now that M2 is delayed, this would be a good buy still. I’d just suggest getting it on eBay from a reputable seller instead, especially if under warranty. I got mine indistinguishable from new for $1600 which is the price I had paid for an M2 Air that was lagging on me. A steal!
 
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All these markdowns show just how overpriced these Macs are. I didn’t pay full price for my 14 Inch, and that was only a couple of months after they were released. They are great products, but Apple went a little overboard with the pricing, especially in the current economy.
 
Arg! Now it’s the head game, do I take advantage of the low price? Or do I treat this as a sign that an M2 Max is right around the corner? I don’t want to buy the old model at the last possible minute like I did buying my 15.9” MacBook Pro 1 month before they released the 16”!
Plot twist, they're not going to release M2 Pro/Max/Ultra series of CPUs for the 14-16" MBP and Studio, but rather launch late this year or early next year with hybrid 3nm tech M3 CPUs fabricated in Arizona.

Seriously, we don't know what they're going to do. If you really need the computer now, buy it. If not, wait. The current M1 Pro and Max based MBPs are excellent. But yes, if I were looking to buy now I would hold off unless I just absolutely needed it.
 
Recently upgraded to M1 Pro 16 and it’s an amazing computer. Now that M2 is delayed, this would be a good buy still. I’d just suggest getting it on eBay from a reputable seller instead, especially if under warranty. I got mine indistinguishable from new for $1600 which is the price I had paid for an M2 Air that was lagging on me. A steal!
Got a similar price myself on eBay, a month old, looked and works like new. The bonus being I’m in the UK so it cost more originally
 
I carry my 16” M1 Max MBP with me daily. I could see someone who has a really bad back not wanting to, but anyone healthy should not have a problem.
I’d say anyone not debilitatingly unhealthy should not have a problem.

Anyone who finds that 4.8 lbs is too much to put in a backpack should just carry their MBP Max in the little basket up front.

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Funny how they use 3000$ and low price in the same sentence.
You look back at Apple's pricing and they has many models at $3000. Even your recent 27" iMacs wasn't hard to have it be around $3000. Ignoring iMac Pro, Mac Pro's and recent Mac Studio. Even a maxed out Mac mini intel with 3.2Ghz 6 core I7, 64 GB RAM, 2 TB SSD, 10GB Ethernet lists for $3000.

But a $3499 USD list 16" M1 Max MBP with 32GB RAM/1 TB is a real workhorse for a laptop. $500 off was a nice price if you found it at that.
 
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I ordered one today. You have to select the silver color to see the $2,999 price; the SG is $300 more. My ideal version would have been the M1 Pro 32GB 2TB, but I didn't move fast enough when BH had them in stock and on sale before the holidays and I can live with 1TB. I was happy to wait until March for the new models, but if they are delayed beyond that, that would be an issue for me. I wouldn't have bought this at full price, and we'll see if this is the right decision.
 
I ordered one today. You have to select the silver color to see the $2,999 price; the SG is $300 more. My ideal version would have been the M1 Pro 32GB 2TB, but I didn't move fast enough when BH had them in stock and on sale before the holidays and I can live with 1TB. I was happy to wait until March for the new models, but if they are delayed beyond that, that would be an issue for me. I wouldn't have bought this at full price, and we'll see if this is the right decision.
Well I picked silver as it doesn’t show chipping as much as discussed here. You can make use of new reasonable priced USB4 storage enclosures for NVme storage, example below coming late spring was shown at CES.

 
That is literally what the other brother from Maxtech publicly admitted in a video. He said the air was all he needed but he bought a maxed out 16 inch just because. 🤷‍♂️
The other thing is... with Apple now constantly discontinuing Macs that are jist a few years old and work perfectly fine, for no reason at all except to goad you into buying a new one, the value just isn't there any more. Not to mention they can't run other operating systems any more either. Apple makes the old evil Microsoft look saintly.
 
All these markdowns show just how overpriced these Macs are. I didn’t pay full price for my 14 Inch, and that was only a couple of months after they were released. They are great products, but Apple went a little overboard with the pricing, especially in the current economy.
Definitely. Same with Studio Display. It was a stupid move. Prevented a lot of people from buying. Not at all at the right equilibrium price of supply and demand.

With Studio Display, they’re going to be stuck with all these 60 Hz displays trying to differentiate it from an even higher-priced display. Dumb spot for them to be in, and seeing as they won’t consider the next one a version 2.0 so early in the game, it’ll mean they don’t drop the price. Have an older Apple Thunderbolt Display I didn’t upgrade because I couldn’t justify the cost, especially with the stupid stand decision on it. They’re out of touch and actually slimy at times. Some pricing makes my iPhones look like a bargain...
 
That is literally what the other brother from Maxtech publicly admitted in a video. He said the air was all he needed but he bought a maxed out 16 inch just because. 🤷‍♂️
2 displays. Not that uncommon a use case. Without that limitation, the M1 Pro would be a hard sell. There’s something I really like about the bulkiness of the M1 Pro as well, and the screen is amazing. The M2 Air 13 and M1 Pro 16 are night and day. Having had both, the real thing that struck me about the M2 Air was just how light it is. A 15 inch (rumored) Air will be incredible I’m sure. Definitely my #1 suggestion for general users and those who will never make use of 2 displays and don’t need the extra I/O. But I brought back an Apple laptop for the first time in probably… ever… due to the M2 lagging on me. I am not facing that issue with M1 Pro at all despite the allegedly analogous single core performance. Perhaps the GPU or multicore performance is helping me along unwittingly.
 
The other thing is... with Apple now constantly discontinuing Macs that are jist a few years old and work perfectly fine, for no reason at all except to goad you into buying a new one, the value just isn't there any more. Not to mention they can't run other operating systems any more either. Apple makes the old evil Microsoft look saintly.
I don't agree. We have a late-2013 MPB that is still going strong after a battery replacement, and although Big Sur is the last MacOS that works with it (and it is still getting updates), no Windows laptop that old has the functionality that this one retains. We are using a 2019 MBP with a 24" ACD that I picked up as a refurb 12 years ago and needed only a $15 adaptor off Amazon and a USB A-C adaptor to make it work. We probably could have purchased a series of cheap Windows computers over the years and perhaps spent roughly the same, but the ownership experience would not have been the same.
 
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The other thing is... with Apple now constantly discontinuing Macs that are jist a few years old and work perfectly fine, for no reason at all except to goad you into buying a new one, the value just isn't there any more. Not to mention they can't run other operating systems any more either. Apple makes the old evil Microsoft look saintly.
Seriously it will be like 7 years before 16" M1 Max on sale can't support a MacOS, then it's usually 2 years later it will stop seeing Safari updates, patches and occasional last OS minor releases. So if your laptop is 9 years old it's about time to be looking for a replacement you think. ;)
 
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The other thing is... with Apple now constantly discontinuing Macs that are jist a few years old and work perfectly fine, for no reason at all except to goad you into buying a new one, the value just isn't there any more. Not to mention they can't run other operating systems any more either. Apple makes the old evil Microsoft look saintly.
I think you’d easily have a point when it comes to the iPhone, but then I’d argue how utterly stable and vibrant the used iPhone market is and how far Apple has gone toward making it so easy to participate via a (usually) very reasonably priced trade-in. Their recycling program is nothing to sneeze at either; they cover the cost.

But for the Mac, I really can’t see your point. The lineup is extremely stable and relatively boring in terms of release cycles. Compare Apple’s number and length of Mac product releases to any other top PC manufacturer with their utterly obnoxious numbers of head-spinning releases. Right now, we are in a unique period of rapid evolution of ARM development due to Apple bringing its silicon production in-house (and continuing to do so with other components). This is going to only result in more power efficiency over time and better performance, and so I’d argue: product longevity and lineup stability in the long run as people realize that any ARM Mac is more than sufficient. That was rarely the case with Intel, especially after one or two OS releases.

Not playing devil’s advocate here on you at all: iPhone lineup is obnoxiously stratified and needs to be consolidated into one or two varieties of the phone. But much like the guilt surrounding “wasted bath water” that is recycled right back into the system, the used market is especially vibrant and stable for all things Apple, and that includes the Mac. It (perhaps accidentally) goes on to justifies the end (though maybe not the means) of much of what they do.
 
I don't agree. We have a late-2013 MPB that is still going strong after a battery replacement, and although Big Sur is the last MacOS that works with it (and it is still getting updates), no Windows laptop that old has the functionality that this one retains. We are using a 2019 MBP with a 24" ACD that I picked up as a refurb 12 years ago and needed only a $15 adaptor off Amazon and a USB A-C adaptor to make it work. We probably could have purchased a series of cheap Windows computers over the years and perhaps spent roughly the same, but the ownership experience would not have been the same.
Anecdotal AF, but I think it says a lot that the used market for Apple products is so high. PC manufacturers aggressively compete with each other on price all day everyday whereas Apple largely only seems to compete with itself.
 
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Funny how they use 3000$ and low price in the same sentence.
Yea at least say lower or lowest. This is like the "sales" at the grocery store. The prices are 2-3x as much as non sales were before. And sometimes you need to get multiples
 
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Yea at least say lower or lowest. This is like the "sales" at the grocery store. The prices are 2-3x as much as non sales were before. And sometimes you need to get multiples
The biggest power consumers have right now is waiting them out until their inventory rots one full cycle. Too many unscrupulous companies raising prices “due to inflation” i.e. BEING inflation. Eating the reduced profit should be absolutely expected until everything normalizes. The stock market doesn’t need to do much but hang in there. Profiteering right now is going to end up backfiring in the macroeconomy.
 
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