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Amazon has marked down the 512GB 16-inch MacBook Pro to $2,099.00, down from $2,399.00 this week. The sale is available in both Space Gray and Silver, although the latter color option is seeing slightly delayed shipping estimates.

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Likewise, the 1TB 16-inch MacBook Pro remains on sale at $2,499.00 at Amazon, down from an original price of $2,799.00. Both of these $300 discounts are the lowest prices we've ever tracked for new models of the 16-inch MacBook Pro, and you'll find matching prices at B&H Photo.



Apple introduced the 16-inch MacBook Pro last November, featuring a larger 16-inch Retina display, slimmer bezels, an updated keyboard with a scissor mechanism instead of a butterfly mechanism, up to 64GB RAM, up to 8TB of storage, and AMD Radeon Pro 5000M Series graphics cards.

You can find even more discounts on other MacBooks by visiting our Best Deals guide for MacBook Pro and MacBook Air. In this guide we track the steepest discounts for the newest MacBook models every week, so be sure to bookmark it and check back often if you're shopping for a new Apple notebook.

Article Link: Deals: Get $300 Off Apple's 16-Inch MacBook Pro at Amazon and B&H Photo
 

ateslik

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Don't do it! You can't hook an external monitor to this disaster without having it overheat due to a bad graphics driver for the Radeon dedicated CPU!

Here is a 75 page long thread about it:


FIX THIS APPLE AND AMD!
 
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MauiPa

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MBP is no-go for me until they drop the touchbar.
I'd love to hear a coherent explanation of why.
1) I have an older MBP with actual keys, I use the power button, but none of the other keys. so a Touch Bar, where there were actual useful functions I might use is a plus,
2) You can turn off the Touch Bar in settings and have it simply be the old school keys, so if you use them (I don't), they are there, so you are out nothing.

The only thing I can think of is you want a key to go "click". Please help me here
 
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PutTheFBackIn

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Maybe never then

Virtual function keys is just an awful idea. The touchbar looked gimmicky when it was first announced, and I have yet to see any functionality, apps, or even customer feedback to suggest otherwise.


I'd love to hear a coherent explanation of why.
1) I have an older MBP with actual keys, I use the power button, but none of the other keys. so a Touch Bar, where there were actual useful functions I might use is a plus,
2) You can turn off the Touch Bar in settings and have it simply be the old school keys, so if you use them (I don't), they are there, so you are out nothing.

The only thing I can think of is you want a key to go "click". Please help me here

Even with touchbar off (which if you’re turning it off that shows it’s unnecessary right?), it’s too easy to press the wrong key. With physical buttons, for instance, it’s easier to change the volume, etc. With touch, you have to pay closer attention (tested this myself many times with MBPs in stores, friends, etc). It’s just an unnecessary inconvenience.

At the very least, TB should be optional. Who wants to constantly look down at the keyboard for some gimmicky functionality that isn’t all that efficient (actually quite the opposite).

Let’s flip the script... Give me a good reason to make TB mandatory on MBP for a reason other than being able to turn it off.
 
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ToneDriver

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Picked one of these up the other day with the same Amazon deal on the silver 1TB. Arrived yesterday and so far so good. My 2010 MBP just couldn't handle any video stuff I was working on, so it was finally time to upgrade.
 
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EvilEvil

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Picked one of these up the other day with the same Amazon deal on the silver 1TB. Arrived yesterday and so far so good. My 2010 MBP just couldn't handle any video stuff I was working on, so it was finally time to upgrade.

Did you get it with 4gb or 8gb VRAM?
 
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originalhdm

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Virtual function keys is just an awful idea. The touchbar looked gimmicky when it was first announced, and I have yet to see any functionality, apps, or even customer feedback to suggest otherwise.

Even with touchbar off (which if you’re turning it off that shows it’s unnecessary right?), it’s too easy to press the wrong key. With physical buttons, for instance, it’s easier to change the volume, etc. With touch, you have to pay closer attention (tested this myself many times with MBPs in stores, friends, etc). It’s just an unnecessary inconvenience.

At the very least, TB should be optional. Who wants to constantly look down at the keyboard for some gimmicky functionality that isn’t all that efficient (actually quite the opposite).

Let’s flip the script... Give me a good reason to make TB mandatory on MBP for a reason other than being able to turn it off.

I absolutely hated the Touch Bar for the first couple of weeks having it for the accidental inputs. Not allowing an out-of-the-box way to 'desensitize' the TB with a delay slider in System Preferences (e.g. 'Ignore input <400 ms') is bad design and a problem for accessibility. I have MS, and the feeling in my left hand is reduced so I was always triggering things accidentally.

But, having said that, once I installed BetterTouchTool, I became a convert. It allows you to set up the TB exactly as you want it. I work with HTML and CSS all day, so I have nested folders of frequently used code snippets. I also have common email responses, app shortcuts, and scripts that I can fire off in an instant. And best of all, I'm now able to set a delay that has completely eliminated accidental presses. I can perform each of these actions with a single press of a finger, without needing some convoluted keyboard shortcut.

It's a valid complaint that Apple should offer this functionality as part of macOS. I would never want a Mac notebook without a Touch Bar, though. The combo of the Touch Bar with Better Touch Tool has transformed my workflow and I would feel lost without it.
 
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PutTheFBackIn

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I absolutely hated the Touch Bar for the first couple of weeks having it for the accidental inputs. Not allowing an out-of-the-box way to 'desensitize' the TB with a delay slider in System Preferences (e.g. 'Ignore input <400 ms') is bad design and a problem for accessibility. I have MS, and the feeling in my left hand is reduced so I was always triggering things accidentally.

But, having said that, once I installed BetterTouchTool, I became a convert. It allows you to set up the TB exactly as you want it. I work with HTML and CSS all day, so I have nested folders of frequently used code snippets. I also have common email responses, app shortcuts, and scripts that I can fire off in an instant. And best of all, I'm now able to set a delay that has completely eliminated accidental presses. I can perform each of these actions with a single press of a finger, without needing some convoluted keyboard shortcut.

It's a valid complaint that Apple should offer this functionality as part of macOS. I would never want a Mac notebook without a Touch Bar, though. The combo of the Touch Bar with Better Touch Tool has transformed my workflow and I would feel lost without it.

That’s cool you were able to do that. And in fairness, I had never heard of that program until you mentioned it.

But as you alluded to, one shouldn’t have to go through all those extra steps just to make a gimmicky feature usable.

I’m still of the opinion that the average consumer has no use for Touchbar. At the very least, it should be optional. For some people the power of an Air is not enough. But that shouldn’t default to having to accept TB.
 
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FilmIndustryGuy

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I find that the tax on Amazon is higher than from Apple. I bought base refurbished from Apple at $2039 total $2166 but a new one form Amazon at $2100 ends up being $2316. The pre tax cost is a $60 difference between the two. Originally I bought a fully loaded Warehouse deal from amazon (a return) and even though it looked perfect, it had 30 battery cycles on it and warranty was activated 3-4 months ago so not eligible for AC+ unless if maybe I called apple and tried to schmooze about changing that.
 
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FightTheFuture

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Let’s flip the script... Give me a good reason to make TB mandatory on MBP for a reason other than being able to turn it off.
If you look at the iPad Pro Magic Keyboard, Apple may ditch the function row completely. I get that it’s used in certain software environments, but if millions of people get by without it, Apple may have a point.
 
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agsystems

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I really think $2099 is still to high for this machine but that’s my opinion.
if you mean anything besides the 2nd gen iPhone SE is overpriced, everybody knows that - you can get better and more affortable hardware on the PC side but if you want MAC OS then you have no choice but to budget for this.
 
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PutTheFBackIn

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If you look at the iPad Pro Magic Keyboard, Apple may ditch the function row completely. I get that it’s used in certain software environments, but if millions of people get by without it, Apple may have a point.

That was actually why I wrote off the Magic Keyboard. I like the idea of bridging the gap between Mac and iOS. But man, if I’m listening to music, I want to change volume/pause with a keyboard, not have to touch the screen every time.
 
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nvmls

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I'd love to hear a coherent explanation of why.
1) I have an older MBP with actual keys, I use the power button, but none of the other keys. so a Touch Bar, where there were actual useful functions I might use is a plus,
2) You can turn off the Touch Bar in settings and have it simply be the old school keys, so if you use them (I don't), they are there, so you are out nothing.

The only thing I can think of is you want a key to go "click". Please help me here

Ah the elephant in the room. Let's try.

You have:
a) beautiful screen
b) physical keyboard able to customize it with tons of key shortcuts

You don't need another screen for "tap buttons", although you likely think you do at this point, so props to you and have a great day.
 
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NickName99

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Get it for $2039 refurbished straight from Apple.

 
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