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Weird, I’m not getting this. What is your room temperature? I only have it coming up when I’m running my windows 10 VM.
room temperature was 80 degrees but I had a slow fan above. I plugged things up again today and saw the fans were 1800s at the beginning for 5 min but then I turned YouTube on and noticed the fans rose to 2200 and the graphic memory filled maybe 65%. I turned off YouTube and 5 min later I see fans are 2500 and Mac case is warm which isn't comfortable for 80s degree days.

I guess its a nice setup for winter. next ill cool everything of and just use it for documents without turning on any video pages to see if it stays at 1800 fans long duration.
 
room temperature was 80 degrees but I had a slow fan above. I plugged things up again today and saw the fans were 1800s at the beginning for 5 min but then I turned YouTube on and noticed the fans rose to 2200 and the graphic memory filled maybe 65%. I turned off YouTube and 5 min later I see fans are 2500 and Mac case is warm which isn't comfortable for 80s degree days.

I guess its a nice setup for winter. next ill cool everything of and just use it for documents without turning on any video pages to see if it stays at 1800 fans long duration.

Darn American temperatures... I'm at about 21 C.

I do have my laptop sitting on top of it's case, which is mesh and might be helping with airflow a bit. I'm on my machine just about all day, and usually have a video going on one display.
 
also I closed the lid and played YouTube just on the 21.5 inch and fan speeds dropped to 1800 pretty quick. the video card dropped the memory by at least half and the video card processor increased with the 5300 card. I opened the lid after 30 min of YouTube and noticed the Mac is warm when typing so its links like some software issue. the Mac stays warm but the fans drop and the way the 5300 is used changes from full memory use to an even memory and processor in video card. I guess the weirded thing about this is the warm typing experience during summer
 
I saw the comments calculating the value based on a 7-year/10-year lifetime

In my opinion, new devices last 1.5 years in average, you usually get a swollen battery if you use it too much

So best to calculate things based on having to sell the device in 1.5 years for 40% of the original purchase value

With this method, which was my experience for the last 3+ years, it's a $100/mo subscription service at best - is it worth it? Probably
 
1.5 years??? i used a 2012 macbook air until 2019 on the original battery. the battery never swelled up, but it did lose capacity. i replaced it with one from iFixit and it is still running fine. 8 years now. i have never had an apple product last only 1.5 years.
 
Like I said it's the new ones :(

I had a Macbook Air from 2011, a champion, I sold it recently, the battery life was still what it was originally like (Had it connected to the power cord idly for almost 10 years too)

But the new ones get swollen a lot, I guess they are made to run too hot, they are too thin, MacOS didn't have battery protection up until 10.15.2(?) - so they got swollen and deformed the machine in the process fast

Especially since this Covid/quarantine, I saw so many occurrences, otherwise I thought I was cursed or something, having experienced it twice, it was because I had the devices connected 24/7 to the power cord

An example online: https://portugnole.blogspot.com/2020/05/running-macbook-without-battery-lets-go.html
 
I saw the comments calculating the value based on a 7-year/10-year lifetime

In my opinion, new devices last 1.5 years in average, you usually get a swollen battery if you use it too much

So best to calculate things based on having to sell the device in 1.5 years for 40% of the original purchase value

With this method, which was my experience for the last 3+ years, it's a $100/mo subscription service at best - is it worth it? Probably
I don’t know how you’re treating your devices, but in my experience over the last 20 years, Apple devices from phones to notebooks last well over six years. None have exhibited swelled batteries.

The devices whose batteries have swelled are non-Apple—a work-issued Motorola G Something and a Nexus N7. Those were trash.
 
I’m still using A 2012 15” cMBP as a daily driver(casual home use). It’s only on its second battery and still does the mundane just fine. Of course it greatly helped to be able to upgrade it to 16Gigs of RAM and an SSD. But that’s not the Apple was anymore, sadly.

I'm finally at a crossroads, with the latest OS. I’ll probably investigate what it will take to upgrade on the sly first, then think about replacement. It’s been a DAMN good run for this laptop
 
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