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Dear Apple, this is how you launch a new laptop...
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I'm not in the habit of being one of the iCrowd, but it has to be said:
If the surface 3 / pro 3 had the kind of sales frenzy that preceded every Apple product launch, I can assure you that demand (and scarcity marketing) would make those products just as hard to obtain.
I'd love to see some of these other tech companies have launch shortages like Apple... It'd be great for tech and innovation/competition. Sadly, the only other manufacturer I know of that has Apple levels of supply delays is Razer.
At least until occulus rift launches...
If the surface 3 / pro 3 had the kind of sales frenzy that preceded every Apple product launch, I can assure you that demand (and scarcity marketing) would make those products just as hard to obtain.
I'd love to see some of these other tech companies have launch shortages like Apple... It'd be great for tech and innovation/competition. Sadly, the only other manufacturer I know of that has Apple levels of supply delays is Razer.
At least until occulus rift launches...
Of course but the company that launches a product must estimate the demand for it, and being able to have enough products to meet customers expectations. Apple has been unable to do that and it's becoming really annoying
Good luck with windows
It is not a matter of "luck". It is mandatory as iOS will not run AutoCad, Quickbooks, etc. I have no choice. Not a Windows hater as it makes me a great living. I use what I need to to get the job done and being a fanboy does not put money in the bank!
The MS product is a good device and has some really redeeming features. My problem always comes down to Windows and version 10 will not fix the biggest issue, security and attacks.
I still use Windows 7 and 8 regularly and even with additional security software and taking safety steps I regularly have some evil software slip through. Rarely do I have any issues with OSX or iOS from a a security and virus standpoint. Why? The fundamental way these OSs work is the key. MS has always had a rather open architect while Apple OSs isolate almost everything. Just ask all the "Jail Breakers" why they do that to their iOS devices.
Basically the hassle of Windows ends it for me, when it comes to using it as my primary device.
Oh, I was/am a big fan of the touch driven Windows API and had hoped Apple would adapt OSX for it also. But not in the near future.
I still use Windows 7 and 8 regularly and even with additional security software and taking safety steps I regularly have some evil software slip through. Rarely do I have any issues with OSX or iOS from a a security and virus standpoint. Why? The fundamental way these OSs work is the key. MS has always had a rather open architect while Apple OSs isolate almost everything. Just ask all the "Jail Breakers" why they do that to their iOS devices.
Basically the hassle of Windows ends it for me, when it comes to using it as my primary device.
Oh, I was/am a big fan of the touch driven Windows API and had hoped Apple would adapt OSX for it also. But not in the near future.
You don't need hype to enjoy a product. And you should only be ordering a computer if you want/need it, not because it's the latest fad that you feel you need to show off. This is not aimed at you, but some people's purchasing decisions are based on showing off.
You sure?
http://quickbooks.intuit.com/mac/
http://www.autodesk.com/solutions/mac-compatible-software
Oh you mean an iPad will not run these. So you are comparing the Surface to the iPad? Not a good comparison because a Surface is a PC and that is comparable to OSX. Try the new rMB or the Air series if you want the portability.
Where did the Surface come into this. Maybe you need to go back and read my comment again. I own a loaded 2014 MBAir and it is a real workhorse. It does Windows great!
Apple almost never does that. They go with limited stock and a wait an see approach.
The watch was effectively recalled due to defective parts. That's made that launch even worse.
I wonder at this point if there are actually undisclosed issues with the rMB also causing delays.
I liken Apple to Invicta. All of the followers just have to own the next Apple thing. Hence the frenzy.
How many Apple things do they really need? Well how many watches are enough?
Some watch guys buy dozens and dozens. Nobody follows Microsoft in this way.
Apple is hedging bets at launches as people are fickle and what they like just depends.
For example, lots of hype on the watch but also not much substance for the cost (IMO). Hardware issues have surfaced as well.
So Apple is wise to slow down the rollout and minimize recalls, returns and negative press.
Not to nitpick, but the Surface 3 gets better multi-core benchmarks than the rMB does. It's the difference between the high end Atom CPU and low end Core i's
Another aspect is Windows is designed run efficiently on much lower hardware specifications than OS X, which results in an extremely smooth UI, so for basic tasks a lower powered CPU/GPU is more than acceptable.
Unfortunately OX S has never been more bloated than we now see with Yosemite, why Apple are changing the desktop OS every 12 months is beyond me as it`s clear for many it`s not the super stable environment it was once. Apple should focus on core functionality, stability & security and stop trying to usurp Windows with eye candy and needless complications...
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That was my gut form the beginning. No good reason to hide a product to the extreme of not having company store demos. I didn't post that impression because I was not in the mood for flames from the Apple is Perfect crowd.
It's a different company now. The head person is a soulless bean counter with an eye to the bottom line. Quality is incidental.
Congratulations. You bought a device that Microsoft can barely sell, that has a high return rate, and is both a terrible laptop and a terrible tablet. Then you came here to troll about it.
He came to troll? It's just an opinion, and btw I am a mac fanboy, and I own an Surface Pro 3, and it's an amazing device really light and powerful, and with the ability to take notes with a pen, something impossible to do with any mac product, which is a shame
Not trolling, honest!
A few sweeping statements there, I must say!
The point of my post was to express my disappointment at the rMB launch and availability, a view shared by many, if not most, MR readers.
I was "on the fence" about buying the rMB, but was hugley impressed when I first played with one at an Apple store (2 weeks after its so called "launch"). If they had actually had them to sell in the flagship Apple store I visited (Sydney), I may well have bought on impulse - I was that taken by it. But they didn't, and it seemed next to impossible to find one. I have had a poor experience buying on-line in the past and wanted a store purchase.
Like many, I was reading people's reviews and personal impressions on this forum. Most are positive, but quite a few people were of the opinion that the rMB isn't quite good enough for them at the moment (UI lag, battery, a bit slow for some software etc.). It's also quite expensive and isn't the best "value" (performance/utility vs price) of Apple's products. (It's value is being small & light)
Having time to study all of this, and considering my own requirements (an ultraportable laptop as a tertiary travel device after my desktop & rMBP 15), I came to the conclusion that I would wait until the next realease and buy a stop-gap machine while we see what happens with iPad Pro, Skylake rMB etc. I didn't really want to spend a lot of money for this stop-gap machine, and the Surface 3 fits the bill perfectly.
As for the Surface 3 being a device that MS "can hardly sell with a high return rate", I should point out that it was only release on May 7, so has hardly had time in the market to draw these conclusions! Perhaps you are thinking of the Surface Pro 3, which has done relatively well (alhtough not the same success as Apple's recent offerings). It's also quite a good small computer, and an adequate table (although the UI and "apps" are nowhere near iOS in this mode). You should try one; I was surprised by how snappy it feels. Let's see how the Surface 3 does first becuase the name-calling, shall we?
A few sweeping statements there, I must say!
The point of my post was to express my disappointment at the rMB launch and availability, a view shared by many, if not most, MR readers.
I was "on the fence" about buying the rMB, but was hugley impressed when I first played with one at an Apple store (2 weeks after its so called "launch"). If they had actually had them to sell in the flagship Apple store I visited (Sydney), I may well have bought on impulse - I was that taken by it. But they didn't, and it seemed next to impossible to find one. I have had a poor experience buying on-line in the past and wanted a store purchase.
Like many, I was reading people's reviews and personal impressions on this forum. Most are positive, but quite a few people were of the opinion that the rMB isn't quite good enough for them at the moment (UI lag, battery, a bit slow for some software etc.). It's also quite expensive and isn't the best "value" (performance/utility vs price) of Apple's products. (It's value is being small & light)
Having time to study all of this, and considering my own requirements (an ultraportable laptop as a tertiary travel device after my desktop & rMBP 15), I came to the conclusion that I would wait until the next realease and buy a stop-gap machine while we see what happens with iPad Pro, Skylake rMB etc. I didn't really want to spend a lot of money for this stop-gap machine, and the Surface 3 fits the bill perfectly.
As for the Surface 3 being a device that MS "can hardly sell with a high return rate", I should point out that it was only release on May 7, so has hardly had time in the market to draw these conclusions! Perhaps you are thinking of the Surface Pro 3, which has done relatively well (alhtough not the same success as Apple's recent offerings). It's also quite a good small computer, and an adequate table (although the UI and "apps" are nowhere near iOS in this mode). You should try one; I was surprised by how snappy it feels. Let's see how the Surface 3 does first becuase the name-calling, shall we?
Don't feed the trolls, even if all they can do is spout made-up statistics and call you a troll like a ridiculous parrot. Enjoy your Surface - they are great devices!
Yeah because Apple never had quality issues under Steve Jobs.
Like it`s getting any better
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