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That is your opinion. Let's just talk numbers, instead of feelings. What kind of premium device comes with
  • 750p display
  • sub-standard battery life
  • awful industrial design (ugly white bands, power button position, thick basel; relatively small screen size compared to size of body)
  • only 2GB of ram
  • 16GB storage, really???
If one product charge the highest premium, it better has the best component across the board. Numbers don't lie. It is a sub-premium device even with great integration between iOS and OS X. The hardware just speaks for itself.
Isn't overpay an opinion or value judgment? Numbers don't lie but the interpretation of what they mean does.
 
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My dentists, as all dentists say; "may the floss be with you " :D
Lol. I would give them a blank stare, and switch dentists immediately. I wouldn't trust a dentist that day dreams about Star Wars, and at the same time checks my teeth!
 
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Yea, prob is no iMessage, no Apple Eco system no iOS. I tried it for 3 weeks , Huge fail

You hit the nail on the head. Web-connected tech is not stand alone. The hardware has to be on point but in the end it's the software/service ecosystem [ie. functionality vs. fashionability] ...the user experience that ultimately wins for most people. With Android I really got tired of doing all the housekeeping to keep the thing decently working. Hopefully, Marshmallow will fix a lot of those issues.

I guess what people are really wanting is a different type of operating system that reimagines the whole mobile computing experience. Gives us everything we need but perhaps from a different [unknown] paradigm. It seems to me that this will happen over time. Unfortunately, nothing has disrupted the status iOS / Android status quo quickly enough and in a way that has been very satisfying. I guess people (at times me included) are yearning for a change but they don't know what that is. What is sad, is that Steve Jobs was a master at coming up with awesome tech that satisfied people....and sometimes even he failed.... remember Ping?
 
Well, as he says, this is kind of hard to accurately call. Kuo is better than a lot of people but not as good as some people make out.

Now that I've read the article, as a scientist by training and career I'm not impressed with the analysis. It's a poor sampling (n=7) with a subjective scoring system. Scoring on a 0-100 point scale is fine (but he only did a 6 point system: 0, 25, 33, 50, 75, 100%) and including not just product but also sales predictions is good but again with a small sample and subjective scoring, we can't take anything from it. It's not like Kuo is making tons of predictions (around 91 reported by MacRumors if we trust DeWitt's numbers), which means someone should look at all of them (and certainly at least 30 randomly chosen). I'll try to do it at some point.

My bias is to pay attention to Kuo's product predictions but not sales or revenue ones. I think Kuo has solid connections on the product line but any of his other predictions are more speculative. The cult of Mac analysis, while far from perfect, was much better. It was also more supportive of Kuo's accuracy (87+% based mostly on products and not revenue/sales).
 
Now that I've read the article, as a scientist by training and career I'm not impressed with the analysis. It's a poor sampling (n=7) with a subjective scoring system. Scoring on a 0-100 point scale is fine (but he only did a 6 point system: 0, 25, 33, 50, 75, 100%) and including not just product but also sales predictions is good but again with a small sample and subjective scoring, we can't take anything from it. It's not like Kuo is making tons of predictions (around 91 reported by MacRumors if we trust DeWitt's numbers), which means someone should look at all of them (and certainly at least 30 randomly chosen). I'll try to do it at some point.

My bias is to pay attention to Kuo's product predictions but not sales or revenue ones. I think Kuo has solid connections on the product line but any of his other predictions are more speculative. The cult of Mac analysis, while far from perfect, was much better. It was also more supportive of Kuo's accuracy (87+% based mostly on products and not revenue/sales).

Well, regardless of the method he is probably the best on products.

My Dart Board analysis puts him at 64.5%.
 
Exactly... Playing around with my mothers iPhone 4 and my iPhone 6S today... From the looks of the OS nothing has happened since 2010 except a slight change of the design of the OS.
Exactly, i'm so bored out of my mind with ios, would love something like a mix of android/win, but the lack of chstomizability paired with the vendor lock-in (xcode, apple tv, etc) puts us users between a rock and a hard place...
 
Exactly, i'm so bored out of my mind with ios, would love something like a mix of android/win, but the lack of chstomizability paired with the vendor lock-in (xcode, apple tv, etc) puts us users between a rock and a hard place...
Has Windows changed materially since XP? Granted Windows is the poster child of an o/s, but it hasn't changed.
 
This comes off like Android is some evil empire when greater than 98% of smartphone users just use it as a phone, SMS, social media consumption device. No nuclear physics theory is being defined on any smartphone, iPhones included.
Having a preference comes off as that? Android is still an iOS knockoff that fails to get 60fps in a lot of basic cases and has the most fragmented user base by OS version. I don't like using it or developing for it when I have to.
 
Based on OLED screens when, 2009? Take another look today, they've progressed pretty well and just might end up in the 2017 iPhone if rumors are true.
i just lookad at the brand new SAMSUNG Galaxy S7 and its still there. Thats why i posted ist.
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And you know exactly what you're talking about, not.
yes i do
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Wait until the iPhone has OLED. Then OLED will be way better.
hopefully
 
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