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well ... Do you know what the good thing is about utilizing the volume button for the camera... ?


you can actually use the + button on the wired headset to take photos ...


" Say Cheese " ...
Thanks for that tip.
 
agreed. but the OP has a point.. i think the camera will be one of the main selling points on iphone 5, so i think they want to solidify a physical button (v+) it will work just like or better than iphone 4

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well ... Do you know what the good thing is about utilizing the volume button for the camera... ?


you can actually use the + button on the wired headset to take photos ...


" Say Cheese " ...
think it'll work with bluetooth?
 

how am i wrong?

theyve already made enhancements to the software for the current camera, there is more than enough speculation that it will get an 8 mp camera, hardware + software coupled together shouldnt be showcased?
 
Ha ha. Yes, yes it does.

You'll forgive me, though, if say that I find that to offer little proof that they'll do the same with the iPhone. :D

Nice bit of trivia, though. That'll be a Jeopardy question some day.

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but this one's kind of unfair, as even apple knows they went too far on the 3g ;)
 
No need at all now we can use the volume button.

it's far from an optimal solution.

first of all, if you hold the phone naturally, as if you'd hold a camera, you're quite likely to cover the camera lens with your middle finger

secondly, the volume button cannot invoke autofocus
 
I think the success of the iPhone had a lot to do with its simplicity.. minimal buttons and general form factor (no sliding keyboard, flash cover, etc). That's one of the things that I appreciate the most about my iPhone. IMO, adding a camera button would be a step backwards for Apple after years of not having that. I think the volume button is all we're gonna see in this direction (hopefully) and that move was only fueled (IMO) by the popularity of the iPhone 4 camera, as reported by Flickr and others.
For what it's worth, I would LOVE it if iPhone 5 came even without a Home button! :eek:
 
I think the success of the iPhone had a lot to do with its simplicity.. minimal buttons and general form factor (no sliding keyboard, flash cover, etc). That's one of the things that I appreciate the most about my iPhone. IMO, adding a camera button would be a step backwards for Apple after years of not having that. I think the volume button is all we're gonna see in this direction (hopefully) and that move was only fueled (IMO) by the popularity of the iPhone 4 camera, as reported by Flickr and others.
For what it's worth, I would LOVE it if iPhone 5 came even without a Home button! :eek:

no offense, but having to:

- double click home-button
- tap the camera button
- tap the screen to focus
- click the volume-shutter button

is NOT what i call simplicity.

Eventually, apple's gonna run out of click-hold-whatnot combinations of the home button.
are we gonna get a quadruple click homebutton eventually? :/
 
no offense, but having to:

- double click home-button
- tap the camera button
- tap the screen to focus
- click the volume-shutter button

is NOT what i call simplicity.

Eventually, apple's gonna run out of click-hold-whatnot combinations of the home button.
are we gonna get a quadruple click homebutton eventually? :/

Uhm.. what happened to Swipe to Unlock, Tap Camera and Tap for picture? As far as I know the iPhone 4 has auto-focus. That's simplicity.
This is not a camera. It's a phone with a camera. As such, I'm fine with having to take the same amount of taps to get to the camera as i do to the Phone app.
 
I like the volume up button to take a picture. I wonder if ppl would become confused if Apple made volume-down AF and volume-up would take the picture? For those that were confused why the pic didn't take when they press volume down, Apple could always make press-hold volume-down take the picture as well.

BTW, I've lost count how many times ppl hit the home button after I told them to press the "button" with the picture of the camera on it. They obviously weren't used to touch screens and must have thought I meant "physical button next to the picture of the camera."

BTW, iPhone 4 is my primary camera these days. It's always with me and the pictures are "good enough" for track meets, school plays, awards ceremonies, documenting repair problems, kid and pet photos, etc, etc, etc.
 
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Uhm.. what happened to Swipe to Unlock, Tap Camera and Tap for picture? As far as I know the iPhone 4 has auto-focus. That's simplicity.
This is not a camera. It's a phone with a camera. As such, I'm fine with having to take the same amount of taps to get to the camera as i do to the Phone app.

He is referring to UI changes in iOS5. It includes a shortcut on the lock screen itself along with software optimization to make launching the camera app quicker than iOS4.
Also the quick launch camera loads faster than the launching the traditional camera app because your camera roll is not loaded.
 
it's far from an optimal solution.

first of all, if you hold the phone naturally, as if you'd hold a camera, you're quite likely to cover the camera lens with your middle finger

secondly, the volume button cannot invoke autofocus

How do you hold a camera? When I take a photo with my phone I have an index finger and a middle finger on the top corners and my thumbs on the bottom corners, and the free index finger taps the screen to take the pic, the rest don't touch the phone. With the volume button mapped as a camera button I'd simply use my index fingers and thumbs to hold it with whichever is closest pressing the volume button. Simple.
 
When in lockscreen how about a hold the v+ button for 2 seconds to bring up the camera. When you're locked you can't change the vol anyway, it'd be a nice shortcut IMO.
I like this idea. As bad as the software was on the SE Satio when I had it one of the features I loved the most was how easy and quickly I could get to the camera, just slide the back cover open and within a second it would open. Really would love to just hold the V+ button down for a few seconds rather than double click the home button and then click on the camera.
 
How do you hold a camera? When I take a photo with my phone I have an index finger and a middle finger on the top corners and my thumbs on the bottom corners, and the free index finger taps the screen to take the pic, the rest don't touch the phone. With the volume button mapped as a camera button I'd simply use my index fingers and thumbs to hold it with whichever is closest pressing the volume button. Simple.

no offense, but that's not the most stable way to hold it horizontally.



intuitively, one would also rest the back of the phone on the middle finger.
that's how you hold every camera, that's how everyone i know currently holds their iPhone, actually (tapping the shutter with the thumb) OR the way you describe it ofcourse. But that doesn't work too well with the physical shutter.



but maybe that's just me, not holding my phone as if i was afraid to touch it, when i take a pic ;)

p.s. sorry for the low quality pics, had to use my iPad camera :)


i'm not saying that there's a right or wrong way to hold the phone, don't get me wrong. There's just a VERY good reason that windows phones have the shutter button on the bottom right (exactly the opposite side to the volume+ button on the iPhone).
This is a decent software fix, no point denying that, but it's not really placed anywhere close to 'ergonomically correct'
 
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I would hate to see such a button myself. It would definitely make it looks ugly.

What's next? Dedicated play/pause skip/repeat buttons for the music player?
 
no offense, but that's not the most stable way to hold it horizontally.

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intuitively, one would also rest the back of the phone on the middle finger.
that's how you hold every camera, that's how everyone i know currently holds their iPhone, actually (tapping the shutter with the thumb)

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but maybe that's just me, not holding my phone as if i was afraid to touch it, when i take a pic ;)

p.s. sorry for the low quality pics, had to use my iPad camera :)

I use both hands so it is actually rather stable, but I see what you are saying about having the extra finger at the back. I only have my iPhone as a camera so I shopped yours instead just to show what I mean. photo1osp.jpg
Unless you need to take photos one-handed, this is actually a great solution as it offers added stability.
 
I would hate to see such a button myself. It would definitely make it looks ugly.

What's next? Dedicated play/pause skip/repeat buttons for the music player?

please leave your straw man on your corn field where it belongs, thank you.

a physical shutter button that's able to invoke autofocus is something really useful and a strong commitment to the camera function of a phone.
Windows Phone 7 _requires_ phones to have such a button.
 
i actually agree, using the volume button is really weird as i cover the lens with my middle finger. (if i don't, the phone is rly unstable and would drop half the time)

before we had the volume button option i actually flipped the phone to the opposite site so i don't cover the sense
 
I use both hands so it is actually rather stable, but I see what you are saying about having the extra finger at the back. I only have my iPhone as a camera so I shopped yours instead just to show what I mean. View attachment 289668
Unless you need to take photos one-handed, this is actually a great solution as it offers added stability.

haha, awesome job shopping that, at first i was amazed your desk looked exactly like mine :(

anyways, yeah, 2 hands is an entirely different thing.

but you can tell even Apple isn't perfectly happy with the placement

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/features.html#camera

try holding the phone like that demo-hand. there's a reason it's (quite badly) photoshopped. you can't.
and even if you could, move your middle finger by 2mm and it's on the picture ;)



also, think about it: Apple is all about design and functionality. They clearly have in mind that an iPhone held horizontally is to be held with the home button on the right. You can see that on every.single.promo shot. there is. (the software shutter button also stays on the side of the home button)
With this in mind they placed the camera. Now they have to awkwardly change the camera promo pics, photoshop the hand, move the home button to the right. awkward. :/
 
haha, awesome job shopping that, at first i was amazed your desk looked exactly like mine :(

anyways, yeah, 2 hands is an entirely different thing.

but you can tell even Apple isn't perfectly happy with the placement

http://www.apple.com/ios/ios5/features.html#camera

try holding the phone like that demo-hand. there's a reason it's (quite badly) photoshopped. you can't.
and even if you could, move your middle finger by 2mm and it's on the picture ;)

lol omg i just tried to hold it like that guy in the ad and it fell on my bed
 
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