Hmmm, what happened to bigheadache? I was expecting a serious flaming from him. Oh well, I guess his POC died. 
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ewinemiller said:
I hardly know any PC users who haven't been hit by a virus and a great many of them have lost everything at least once. A recent study concluded that a substantial majority of PCs are infested with spyware and half of the owners didn't even know it. So the idea that this has suddenly become a non-issue is just plain silly, counterfactual and bad advice besides. Do Grandma a favor. Buy her a Mac.
IJ Reilly said:
I concur.
I've had a few people get me to "fix their computers." All that was wrong was that they were TOTALLY infested with spyware. I'm talking BAD, too. Like 500-1000 matches in Ad Aware, if I remember correctly. It's crazy stuff. They didn't have working virus scanners, either.
Bigheadache said:
expiry?
I guess most people here became fanboys - I think the G4 is no longer the Premiere chip.. (the G5 took that spot) And i have a G5 at my job... and a G4 at home and see little difference (except for massive h.264 encoding of course)
you are silly.
kyle
Because they prominently advertise a price $299 right beside a prominient "Free Shipping" banner, with a teeny weeny "*on purchases over $499" and then sock you $79 - $129 (depending on what day it is and what product it is) for ground shipping that costs $20. Classic, sleazy sales tactics.ewinemiller said:
After reading this thread and a couple of others, I have one question. What is so bad with the G4? Ok, it is a bit slower than the G5, big deal. My guess is that most people are packing waaayy to much computing power. Some people in video editing might push their machines to the limit, but I doubt this goes for the majority of users here.
I am still playing around with a PM G4 with dual 1.25GHz. To call this machine outdated is absurd. It will fulfill my need many years to come, since I don't use it as a playbox nor for video editing. Those of you that claim the G4 is outdated should dropby your local university so you can have a look at what the scientists use. I can't talk for all of us, but most people in research use oldish machines. Smaller computations/simulations can be made on your "oldish" computer without any problem. (so it might take 5 min longer than on the latest machine....big deal) When you need to do some serious heavy duty computing, you use server clusters. you NEVER your desktop then.
My very unscientific conclusion is that people with the latest and greatest are often people with the least need of computing power.
Moreover, if you use your computer professionally you should value reliability much more higher than x% faster machine. It just takes one big crash to lose the advantage you get from a faster machine.
Sidenot: This insight was what finally made me leave the windows platform. One hickup and two weeks of work was gone forever.
Ask yourself how much of your day you spend waiting for the computer to complete its task. You have now also answered how much you need a faster machine.
I am still playing around with a PM G4 with dual 1.25GHz. To call this machine outdated is absurd. It will fulfill my need many years to come, since I don't use it as a playbox nor for video editing. Those of you that claim the G4 is outdated should dropby your local university so you can have a look at what the scientists use. I can't talk for all of us, but most people in research use oldish machines. Smaller computations/simulations can be made on your "oldish" computer without any problem. (so it might take 5 min longer than on the latest machine....big deal) When you need to do some serious heavy duty computing, you use server clusters. you NEVER your desktop then.
My very unscientific conclusion is that people with the latest and greatest are often people with the least need of computing power.
Moreover, if you use your computer professionally you should value reliability much more higher than x% faster machine. It just takes one big crash to lose the advantage you get from a faster machine.
Sidenot: This insight was what finally made me leave the windows platform. One hickup and two weeks of work was gone forever.
Ask yourself how much of your day you spend waiting for the computer to complete its task. You have now also answered how much you need a faster machine.
I think one often-overlooked advantage to the G4 is its efficiency - an iBook can run for 5-6 hours per charge (a bit less for PBs). That is much longer than comparably quick PCs. If you need vast CPU power, then, no, an xBook isn't for you, but if you want something that will last an entire flight/day at class/etc., the G4 is quite a nice chip. And it's faster than it's given credit for.Dr.Gargoyle said:
My point was just too question some peoples irrational need for speed. As you pointed out, I need reliability over anything else. Who doesn't prefer a slower computer that is actually working, than a fast computer with a dead battery.jsw said:
Consequently, I might be one of very few here that doesn't long for the G5 PB, unless it has equal or superior battery time.
Well, I would appriciate if it didn't cought fire too.
jackieonasses said:
Fanboy? that's funny since i don't actually own my own G5. Only a G4 and an A64. You might want to check iCal... you'll find its 2005 and the world has developed since FSBs were 166mhz. I wouldn't buy a G4 in 2005.
newwavedave said:
I actually work everyday. If I my Mac was not a POS then I could probably have more time to chat with you.
Apple2991 said:
Hmm, don't know about that. Have you seen Apple's advertising? A big deal is made of photo/video editing and media related stuff. Sounds like G5 territory to me.
_pb_boi said:
Interesting.
Not doubting you but that's pretty disappointing if thats true. Mac hardware is further behind than I originally thought.