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Apple does industrial design excellently but to be fair you can pick on their decisions, also.
Like the iMac still having a "chin"! It would probably look better without it even if that meant making it fatter.
And the eternal use of shiny metal in ipods which attracts smudges, fingerprints and scratches.
And the old keyboards with the clear plastic so you can be disgusted by the crumbs, hairs and insects that fall through the keys. And sticking to one button mice for too long! (these don't apply anymore, thankfully)
Oh yeah... and why put a 2 megapixel camera in a $400 phone and cheap webcams on the $1000+ computers.

I guess you could say I'm an Apple fanboy, too. But I like to think one can be objective.
 
It's nice that they're FINALLY making slim all-in-one PCs! Dell, Gateway, and (I think) HP! :D

But Apple has been way ahead of the PC manufacturers ever since!

:apple: Go Apple! :apple:
 
That doesn't make any sense at all.

One can build a cheap computer with low profit margin or a more expensive computer with better profit margin. Apple tends to make more expensive computers with higher margins. Now you could make the point not unreasonably that there are customers who can't or won't afford a more expensive computer, and by making MacOS X available to those customers Apple would get money out of that part of the market.

However, these "design" PCs are expensive. They are intended to be sold to people who could afford to buy a Mac (maybe Dell has figured out that they sell ten times as many computers as Apple, get three times as much revenue out of it and less than half the profit). They are often more expensive than a comparable Macintosh. By supplying MacOS X to _those_ computers, Apple would lose a lot of money with every copy of MacOS X sold.

It's all about volume. You may lose money on hardware(people would still buy apple hardware) but you make a ton of money on software sales alone. You get your OS on more computers along with ilife and iwork and you make a fortune.
 
.....and 89 of those 90 are drunk, blindfolded toddlers... :rolleyes:

I must say the dell one looks so dam ugly. It looks like a cheap piece of crap. Who in the hell would buy that chunk of garbage get me an imac and I am not apple fan boy im just speaking common sense. If they have 90 people for dells design team then dell really has serious hiring issues. think smart. think apple:apple:
 
Walt Mossberg is dumb... and needs to goto art school... that dell has nothing on the iMac... N O T H I N G

Walt Mossberg is not dumb heck I would say the same thing if I were paid a couple of million. Welcome to reality, those editor choice is nothing more than a big fat bonus check. trust me my brother used to be an editor for PC world. It is all a scam these reviews. notebook forums is a good place but even there, hard fans can miss the problems.
 
Jeebus kryst! They're still fugly even compared to yesteryear's Macs. I agree with above poster that they must have major issues hiring decent staff of all their 90 designer can come up with is this... But then again, it's Dell we're talking about.

Oh, and I agree that Mossberg isn't dumb. Anyone who gets paid for writing up bullcrap can't be that dumb, can they?
 
"Designer-Inspired" stand

I almost fell over laughing watching the Dell slideshow about this monitor. On the slide about the stand, they point out that it's "Designer-Inspired". Not designed, or anything, but inspired by designers. They are seriously clue-impaired.
 
It looks very hi-tech circa 1983.

Design is about emotion, moving with your soul, where shifting a degree to the left or to the right is a broad stroke...or not...Design is being able to tell and feel the difference between chartreuse and verdent green, about discovering masculine angles and feminine curves and vice versa. It's a world within a world within a world where subtle changes influence the big picture. Marry that to technology and you get what Apple is about.

Good luck Dell. But only throwing a lot of money at it won't make it a good design.

flashframe, it's people like you that make me want to abandon Apple all together and switch back to the PC. Reading this kind of crap makes me sick.
 
PC companies have come a long way. i was at my grandmother's house 2 days ago setting up their hi speed internet + wifi (finally made the switch from dialup), and her laptop was a CHORE to pickup!!

it was a 8 year old HP, it had speaker grates on the front that kept shocking me when i put it on mute haha.
 
flashframe, it's people like you that make me want to abandon Apple all together and switch back to the PC. Reading this kind of crap makes me sick.

You have to have better reasons to adopt or leave the Mac platform.

Some person's views can't be one of them.

Glad that you re started this thread though. Cuz now we have solid aluminum laptops and new ACDs from Apple, but we also have some not so bad designs from the PC market as well.

Apple still leads on the outward appearances of the machine, but i'll still have to give the internals to the PC makers (that is, what they can put into the case, not just how clean it looks). The Mac Pro is the cleanest desktop I've ever had the pleasure of stuffing my hands in though.
 
flashframe, it's people like you that make me want to abandon Apple all together and switch back to the PC. Reading this kind of crap makes me sick.

I just don't get when people write stuff like this, so someone saying something like this will all of sudden cause you to go and abandon something. There are people like this on both sides of the fence. Shows how much people have over your decisions in life.
 
Like the iPod case that was the shell of a brown Zune... :D

Because no one would ever want to steal a brown Zune.

:D That's actually the exact reason I'm switching back to PC, haha. I'm going to be doing a lot of traveling in poorer nations in Asia and honestly don't want to be lugging around a $2000 shiny aluminum laptop. I also want to keep the smug factor toned down around people not as fortunate as myself.

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:D That's actually the exact reason I'm switching back to PC, haha. I'm going to be doing a lot of traveling in poorer nations in Asia and honestly don't want to be lugging around a $2000 shiny aluminum laptop. I also want to keep the smug factor toned down around people not as fortunate as myself.

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Same reason a netbook still have a place in my life. Having a $350-->$450 fully featured laptop that's under 2lbs and fits anywhere is just something that should interest and gadget freak.

If it's lost with the luggage or stolen..... so what. It wasn't the $2000 Apple and didn't have sensitive info on it.
 

At first glance it's a bit odd but I guess it could grow on me. At least it's better than Dell's usual spartan offerings. :D

WAIIIITTT A MINUTE...built-in speakers? Built-in webcam? Hmmmm, this is really ringing a bell somewhere...:D

Oh yeah, and has anyone seen Dell's MacBook Air knockoff, the Adamo? It even uses an external DVD burner that looks EXACTLY like the MBA's external SuperDrive. :D Not to mention, it's priced at $2,700 for the fully pimped out model. I guess the Windows fanbots who constantly ridiculed the Air for being a useless waste of money can't say anything now. :p
 
:D That's actually the exact reason I'm switching back to PC, haha. I'm going to be doing a lot of traveling in poorer nations in Asia and honestly don't want to be lugging around a $2000 shiny aluminum laptop. I also want to keep the smug factor toned down around people not as fortunate as myself.

:eek: Depending on what nation you visit, even a $299 netbook would be a fantastically fabulous wonder to behold. ;) And smugness comes from the person, not the computer itself.
 
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