chucknorris said:I don't understand why everybody is so impressed with the specs...they don't even come close to making up for the OS, manufacturer, and vomit-inducing design.
Sedulous said:
JDar said:Reminds me of something:
dotdotdot said:Whats wrong with everyone here? Honestly?
I actually have people I know who own that laptop (its an XPS Gen. 2), one of the highest rated LAPTOPS (PCMac) which includes the PowerBooks and iBooks.
Do you all realize that you are all calling something you've never seen, only pictures of, tacky? The performance is MUCH better than any Mac laptop will be at LEAST until 2007, and relatively inexpensive for so much. And have you ever lifted it? Unless you are incredibly weak, its relatively light - 8 pounds is NOTHING. If you can't carry 8 lbs. thats pretty sad. Plus, laptops are now becoming Desktop replacements - people would say that 8.6 lbs for a laptop with so much - 256 MB VRAM, 1 Gig RAM, DVD Burner, Media Center Edition XP, MP3 player, DVI Out, SVideo Out, amazing (Audigy 2?) soundcard, EVERYTHING - is an amazing deal.
If it ran Mac OS X you'd all buy one right now. Since it runs Windows, it sucks? What if you put linux on it, then its awesome.
Seriously, stop all the hating and just accept that something by Dell is better than something by Apple.
Edit: If you show someone who's never seen a Mac ever, a picture of the Powerbook 15", they'd think its tacky. A silver metalic thing? Eww. But in real life, its amazingly good looking. Same with the XPS line. Those pictures do suck - but I see one everyday, and think it really does look good.
dotdotdot said:Whats wrong with everyone here? Honestly?
I actually have people I know who own that laptop (its an XPS Gen. 2), one of the highest rated LAPTOPS (PCMac) which includes the PowerBooks and iBooks.
Do you all realize that you are all calling something you've never seen, only pictures of, tacky? The performance is MUCH better than any Mac laptop will be at LEAST until 2007, and relatively inexpensive for so much. And have you ever lifted it? Unless you are incredibly weak, its relatively light - 8 pounds is NOTHING. If you can't carry 8 lbs. thats pretty sad. Plus, laptops are now becoming Desktop replacements - people would say that 8.6 lbs for a laptop with so much - 256 MB VRAM, 1 Gig RAM, DVD Burner, Media Center Edition XP, MP3 player, DVI Out, SVideo Out, amazing (Audigy 2?) soundcard, EVERYTHING - is an amazing deal.
If it ran Mac OS X you'd all buy one right now. Since it runs Windows, it sucks? What if you put linux on it, then its awesome.
Seriously, stop all the hating and just accept that something by Dell is better than something by Apple.
Edit: If you show someone who's never seen a Mac ever, a picture of the Powerbook 15", they'd think its tacky. A silver metalic thing? Eww. But in real life, its amazingly good looking. Same with the XPS line. Those pictures do suck - but I see one everyday, and think it really does look good.
dotdotdot said:Seriously, stop all the hating and just accept that something by Dell is better than something by Apple.
dotdotdot said:Seriously, stop all the hating and just accept that something by Dell is better than something by Apple.
$60 more?Capt Underpants said:I would love to have that laptop for LAN parties. Why is everyone comparing it to the 15" PB? It is a 17" Laptop. Let's compare the default models, shall we?
Powerbook: 6.9 lb
XPS: 8.6 lb
Powerbook: 1.67 GHz G4
XPS: 2 GHz Pentium M
Powerbook: Mobility Radeon 9700
XPS: Geforce Go 6800 Ultra
Powerbook: 17", 1440x900 resolution
XPS: 17", 1920x1200 Resolution
Powerbook: 100 GB 5400 RPM HD
XPS: 80 GB 5400 RPM HD
Powerbook: 512 MB PC3200 RAM
XPS: 1 GB DDR2 RAM
So for 1.7 lbs and only $60 more, we get an AWESOME processor (probably twice as fast as a 1.67 GHZ G4), a great graphics card, twice the amount of RAM, and a higher resolution screen. This computer will kick the powerbook out of the game, performance wise. I'd take this over a 17" powerbook any day.
ohcrap said:$60 more?
Capt Underpants said:You caught me... it's $61. $2699 and $2760
edit: If i go to configure an XPS, they actually include a 100 GB drive and drop the price to $2699. Not a bad deal, eh?
javiercr said:I was just working on my win pc (dell by the way), i dragged a file to a shotcut to a network folder, windows crashed, lost 1h of workwhich is about $500. So...i wish i had been using mac osx, that would make the dell $561 more expensive.
A system with a respectible and well matched set of hardware components running a maintained install of Windows XP, assuming the user defrags more than he changes his underpants, practices safe-surfing and runs programs like Spybot, Ad-Aware, <insert your preferred flavor of AV here>, etc, almost never crashes...javiercr said:I was just working on my win pc (dell by the way), i dragged a file to a shotcut to a network folder, windows crashed, lost 1h of workwhich is about $500. So...i wish i had been using mac osx, that would make the dell $561 more expensive.
ohcrap said:A system with a respectible and well matched set of hardware components running a maintained install of Windows XP, assuming the user defrags more than he changes his underpants, practices safe-surfing and runs programs like Spybot, Ad-Aware, <insert your preferred flavor of AV here>, etc, almost never crashes...
The average Mac OS X system almost never crashes...
And when both systems crash, the Mac is much less likely to suffer data loss...
That alone puts the Apple machine far ahead in my book.
javiercr said:I was just working on my win pc (dell by the way), i dragged a file to a shotcut to a network folder, windows crashed, lost 1h of workwhich is about $500. So...i wish i had been using mac osx, that would make the dell $561 more expensive.
My last post is speaking for the general public.Capt Underpants said:I havent defragged my windows computer in six months. I don't use anti-virus software. My windows computer is still faster than my mac. I do, however, use ad-aware every few months. I keep my windows computer very well maintained (I use a selective startup to minimize the amount of background tasks, etc). I actually have good computing experiences on my windows machine. I think that the reason so many people have a hard time with windows is that they don't know how to use it.
Capt Underpants said:I would love to have that laptop for LAN parties. Why is everyone comparing it to the 15" PB? It is a 17" Laptop. Let's compare the default models, shall we?
Powerbook: 6.9 lb
XPS: 8.6 lb
Powerbook: 1.67 GHz G4
XPS: 2 GHz Pentium M
Powerbook: Mobility Radeon 9700
XPS: Geforce Go 6800 Ultra
Powerbook: 17", 1440x900 resolution
XPS: 17", 1920x1200 Resolution
Powerbook: 100 GB 5400 RPM HD
XPS: 80 GB 5400 RPM HD
Powerbook: 512 MB PC3200 RAM
XPS: 1 GB DDR2 RAM
So for 1.7 lbs and only $60 more, we get an AWESOME processor (probably twice as fast as a 1.67 GHZ G4), a great graphics card, twice the amount of RAM, and a higher resolution screen. This computer will kick the powerbook out of the game, performance wise. I'd take this over a 17" powerbook any day.