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It's funny that Dell is consistently trying to follow  when they are about to get passed by Asus to be the second largest computer manufacturer. Dell has been on a considerable slide since 2001.
 
Does anyone think that Dell is doing much actual "developing"? Or, more likely, just slapping their logo on one of the many Android MID's being designed in Taiwan, et.al.?
 
Ha, can someone mock up an ugly black and grey hunk of a phone for our amusment?

Best one I could find.

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Does anyone think that Dell is doing much actual "developing"? Or, more likely, just slapping their logo on one of the many Android MID's being designed in Taiwan, et.al.?


Dell . . . develops??
 
I've still got an ancient dell x51v from like 5+ years ago, cost a little over £100 - no telephone, so you're not stuck with a 'subsidized' insane ripoff contract.

It's a nice little device with a 624mhz cpu and discrete powervr gpu that handles dvds/x264 fine on its 640x480 vga screen (or vga out on a big screen).
You can browse the internet (with flash) fine, play games, use tomtom/igo/navigon/etcetc, use word/excel and have access to tonnes of apps - google>>>>some limited app store imo.

There's a big rom cooking community that keep these older devices upto date and working brilliantly. The casing (or the 4.2" screen) isn't as nice as HP's old hx4700 with its magnesium, but it's still solid. SD card, CF card, usb host, bluetooth ad2p etcetcetc - not really sure why pdas never caught on - If you've owned and used a decent one, the recent smart/touch/iphone craze and hype all seems a little silly.
 
I really don't understand all these people who hate iTunes so much. I can't imagine trying to manage music without it again. I mean really, how could they make it any easier? I haven't had to touch an actual music file in the Finder in years. The key is to make sure your metadata is complete and accurate. You can search & filter just about any way you want.

I mean, if you don't like iTunes, that's fine, you are perfectly within your rights to not use it and use something else, I just can't see what's so horrible about it. I do think they started adding too much to it with the App Store, device synching, video, etc., so it has become a little bloated but most of that stuff stays out of the way when it's not needed and it still works pretty well. One of the best pieces of software ever IMO.
 
Why do people keep thinking apple's strategy is dictated by what everyone else does? Apple does what they think is best, and others adapt to them - not the other way around.

Nobody's saying Apple isn't a forward thinking company. They are clearly the market leader for the "consumer pocket device." We're just saying that more competition will lead to lower prices, more aggressive marketing, and better features. I'm not interested in Apple's strategy or how much money they make. I just want a great product and competition helps that.

Apple responds to what customers ask for, even if it takes them a year (cut/copy/past, exchange, etc.). While I have no doubt that the PSPhone, zune HD, or Dell device will be minor competitors, there is certainly a possibility that one of these devices will have some new feature that we haven't even realized we're missing. If we want it, Apple will eventually give it to us. Competition is good, period.
 
I really don't understand all these people who hate iTunes so much. I can't imagine trying to manage music without it again. I mean really, how could they make it any easier? I haven't had to touch an actual music file in the Finder in years. The key is to make sure your metadata is complete and accurate. You can search & filter just about any way you want.

I mean, if you don't like iTunes, that's fine, you are perfectly within your rights to not use it and use something else, I just can't see what's so horrible about it. I do think they started adding too much to it with the App Store, device synching, video, etc., so it has become a little bloated but most of that stuff stays out of the way when it's not needed and it still works pretty well. One of the best pieces of software ever IMO.

Those complaints usually come from the same people who also own a Windows machine and parrot the "each has its advantages and disadvantages" line in an attempt to appear somehow "unbiased" or "balanced", despite the overwhelmingly unbalanced situation when comparing Apple products to also-rans. Fake fence-sitting.

iTunes is best-in-class software. It works. It's got great content, and if Windows users don't like it you won't see me shed a tear. Let em switch.
 
Those complaints usually come from the same people who also own a Windows machine and parrot the "each has its advantages and disadvantages" line in an attempt to appear somehow "unbiased" or "balanced", despite the overwhelmingly unbalanced situation when comparing Apple products to also-rans. Fake fence-sitting.

iTunes is best-in-class software. It works. It's got great content, and if Windows users don't like it you won't see me shed a tear. Let em switch.

Actually whilst iTunes is great on a Mac it's clunky on a PC. You can make all the excuses you want but that's the way it is.
 
I don't expect much more than a mobile internet device. It would be nice to have a simple tablet over say a Kindle to have in the TV room over wireless.

I don't need to install applications or anything major. Just keep the browser updated and support Flash/Java. 10" sounds like the right size and keep it cheap.

I'm not talking about a netbook either.
 
Actually whilst iTunes is great on a Mac it's clunky on a PC. You can make all the excuses you want but that's the way it is.

Oh I agree. it's not that great on Windows. Then again, I don't expect MS software to be great on OS X.
 
Actually whilst iTunes is great on a Mac it's clunky on a PC. You can make all the excuses you want but that's the way it is.

64-bit on Windows 7 is good. But yeah. On XP, forget about it. :rolleyes:

Oh I agree. it's not that great on Windows. Then again, I don't expect MS software to be great on OS X.

Like Messenger for Mac, for example. Ridiculously crippled. It's gotten to where I've been booting into Windows 7 to use the "real" version. Adium is amazing but no video support yet. The video-compatible Mac clients are based in Java, are extremely clunky, and don't work with half of my buddies.

MS Office for Mac is good, but that's the only good software that they haven't crippled.
 
Oh I agree. it's not that great on Windows. Then again, I don't expect MS software to be great on OS X.

Yeah, i should have said i was on a PC, and its so so on my wife's mac. The program i used was from a company called Redchairsoftware. The program was a heft 800K, thats right, 800K install and integrated into windows explorer. You should seriously check it out if you have anything apple music wise besides an iPhone. I am not sure if the Touch is supported as well. Coming from that, which was streamlined and small, for me, was a step back. To each his own.
 
It's got great content, and if Windows users don't like it you won't see me shed a tear. Let em switch.

As soon as Apple supports business users and can provide real business solutions, IE docking stations, built in 3G etc, than i can switch, otherwise i am stuck with what work pays for.
 
I personally can't stand Dell products. I have used a Dell computer at just about every job I have had and they all suck! Obviously these are not the best Dell computers available, but I still have never liked them. I see no reason to think a mobile device by them would be any different.
 
I've still got an ancient dell x51v from like 5+ years ago, cost a little over £100 - no telephone, so you're not stuck with a 'subsidized' insane ripoff contract.

It's a nice little device with a 624mhz cpu and discrete powervr gpu that handles dvds/x264 fine on its 640x480 vga screen (or vga out on a big screen).
You can browse the internet (with flash) fine, play games, use tomtom/igo/navigon/etcetc, use word/excel and have access to tonnes of apps - google>>>>some limited app store imo.

There's a big rom cooking community that keep these older devices upto date and working brilliantly. The casing (or the 4.2" screen) isn't as nice as HP's old hx4700 with its magnesium, but it's still solid. SD card, CF card, usb host, bluetooth ad2p etcetcetc - not really sure why pdas never caught on - If you've owned and used a decent one, the recent smart/touch/iphone craze and hype all seems a little silly.

Same for me, I still use my Palm TX and I´m not sure if I should move to the Touch yet. Of course the "experience" is better, but the most times I "stole" it to my wife is for gaming, and I dont need another device in my pocket.

Before somebody says it ... NO, I don´t want a Iphone, I don´t NEED a iPhone, I am one of these fews that uses two or three phones and the iPhone has no "native" suport for two sims. BTW too much overpriced here in the "peninsula ibérica", like a contract with the devil.
 
To little to late! -- This will be a yawner of a device. By the time this thing comes out Apple will be finishing up the next round of software and hardware updates for the iPhone. I am not sure how they will compete but I guess time will tell.:)

So you've already used it? Where's your review?

Oh wait, you couldn't have already used it. So how about not judging it until after it's actually out?
 
Same for me, I still use my Palm TX and I´m not sure if I should move to the Touch yet. Of course the "experience" is better, but the most times I "stole" it to my wife is for gaming, and I dont need another device in my pocket.

Before somebody says it ... NO, I don´t want a Iphone, I don´t NEED a iPhone, I am one of these fews that uses two or three phones and the iPhone has no "native" suport for two sims. BTW too much overpriced here in the "peninsula ibérica", like a contract with the devil.

YMMV, but the iPod Touch is one helluva PDA, IMO. I've been using it as such for a year now, and it more than replaces my good ol Visor Pro.
 
I personally can't stand Dell products. I have used a Dell computer at just about every job I have had and they all suck! Obviously these are not the best Dell computers available, but I still have never liked them. I see no reason to think a mobile device by them would be any different.

Dell is good at mass-producing black and gray boxes that are purchased in bulk by large corporations, for use in cubicle farms. Then when they try to produce "designer" products for individuals (a la Adamo and Inspiron notebooks with personalized shells) they just end up looking like a large corporation in suits trying to dangle "cool stuff" in front of the kids. I guess in their attempts to be hip, they miss the point of the Mac: for all its beauty, the UNIX OS is really our biggest advantage. I'm not "cool" because I have a Mac, I'm just happier. :) You can slap a pretty flowery design on a notebook, and offer a free backpack or other back-to-school deal along with it, but the squarish, spartan Dell logo still screams "CUBICLE FARM!" ;)

Mr. Dell has had to eat a considerable amount of crow since that comment he made about shutting Apple down and giving the money back to the shareholders. :D
 
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