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Dell - Bootcamp

Whats interesting though is that what it lists are bios updates and partition updates, essentially exactly what Apple gave us with boot camp....

That has to be more than a coincidence :confused:

Never say never when it comes to apple, we all said never when it was rumored to switch to intel, we all said never when it was rumored apple would allow windows to run, we all say never that apple will allow 3rd partys to run osX.....
 
MacRumorUser said:
Whats interesting though is that what it lists are bios updates and partition updates, essentially exactly what Apple gave us with boot camp....

That has to be more than a coincidence :confused:

Never say never when it comes to apple, we all said never when it was rumored to switch to intel, we all said never when it was rumored apple would allow windows to run, we all say never that apple will allow 3rd partys to run osX.....

it's scary isn't it?!?!

oh, you forgot one thing there, we pretty much all said never.. when.. can't mention it's name... thread... 500... ;)
 
TallShaffer said:
If this happens I'm just going to shoot myself in the back of the throat. I don't want to be using any software that is the same as any Dell user. I got a mac so I wouldn't have to be in the same usergroups as dell owners.

I would most definately buy myself a nice latitude d620, a nice SMALL notebook with a proper 256mb discret graphics card... if they get mac os running stable on it, my money is sooo on it...

I'd much rather an apple , but if they don't meet my needs why should I be limited by them...

I think options are always a good thing...

I don't see why the apple fan boys(blind zealots) go so mental, if Apple's hardware is so great they have nothing to fear, apple should win shouldn't they. Or, they'll have to evolve and offer more options to the user.

In any case, apple wins, it worked for microsoft, and if there's a company that can raise mac os market share, that's dell.

Also, if they can't compete on a hardware level, tough, there's the free market for you, they'll continue to make money on what they're better at, software...

It probably won't happen, but it's a nice concept, and everybody would win...

And flamers out there, I'm ready... hahaha...:)
 
I give it less than a year, Dell will be selling OSX, and MS and Apple will have some type of OS partnership (no talkin about OfficeX), I mean something huge.
 
IF They where too do this apple would only allow this on the xps lines all alienware lines, and the high end inspiron and latitude notebooks and on all of the precision lines and the high end optiplex. all the others have stuff that is made too cheap for apple to allow OS X 10.5 to run on.

I say 10.5 cause it is the next os X versoin:D
 
I really really hope this never happens I'd hate too see OS X go mainstream, but to be fair it is inevitable that it will eventually happen and this may be the start....

ShadoW
 
Well this has to happen at some point. There will be a time in the future when Apple has increased their market share as much as they can and the only way up is to start letting other companies ship Mac OS X on their computers.

Although Apple do allow Dell to ship Mac OS X, I hope it is just on their performance lines. Apple still don't offer a gaming laptop (and probably never will), but this will be an area that Dell could help out on.
 
Awesome! I'll take a DELL 12" 1280x768 Widescreen Laptop with Tiger, please! :D
 
Description: This file format consists of a BIOS executable file. The Universal (Windows/MS DOS) format can be used to install from Windows XP, Windows 2000, NT, Windows 9X, Windows ME or a MS DOS environment.

Note it has been changed to what "Universal" means.

I have navigated around on quite a bit of these pages on Dell now, and it, as posted, seems to just be a new page setup for Dell, where the Apple OS stuff is only printer related, but the menu heirarchy has some overlap for Apple OS to cover computers.
 
hvfsl said:
Well this has to happen at some point. There will be a time in the future when Apple has increased their market share as much as they can and the only way up is to start letting other companies ship Mac OS X on their computers.

Although Apple do allow Dell to ship Mac OS X, I hope it is just on their performance lines. Apple still don't offer a gaming laptop (and probably never will), but this will be an area that Dell could help out on.

what is your idea of a gaming laptop wont the macbookpro qualify??
 
The only, ONLY reason i wouldn't hate a dellmac is that 30% of computer users are idiots who buy new dells every 15 years and never buy anything else and don't know anything about windows or osx. Otherwise, the Dellmac is a stupid idea. Dellmacs are for the people who still think the blue e (internet explorer logo) stands for the internet. I think its hilarious to see users come to the school Mac lab, look for the blue E, click it, then wonder why their page looks messed up. Dellmacs are for the idiots who think that their CD tray is a cupholder (but doesnt it auto-retract in like 5 minutes??). Basically, Dellmacs are for PC users.
 
ldkoehler said:
This seems unrelated but still interesting:

http://gear.ign.com/articles/710/710374p1.html

I wonder what Dell is releasing tomorrow - I sure hope it has nothing to do with OSX drivers

and when Apple will finally release a home media center unit?

Dell thing looks Apple-invite style...

and the Mac Mini is a decent media center. Streams stuff from other Macs, plus EyeTV is easy to set up.
 
ok,I went with a generic XPS laptop, got a diagnostic driver. Sorry, it was a.exe. problem solved.
 
This would be anathema.

Jobs closed down the clone makers last time round, partly because they weren't growing the market share, and partly because he doesn't want to see MacOS running on anything other than top-quality hardware. Dell assuredly is not that.

I too didn't think that Apple would go Intel (but then, I also hadn't expected that IBM wouldn't manufacture a mobile G5). Selling MacOS through Dell seems an unlikely scenario to me, given the history.
 
EricNau said:
The day Apple releases OS X to other PC manufacturers they can kiss their hardware sales goodbye. From that point on, Apple would be purely a software company.
I disagree. All the Mac models are highly competative with their PC counterparts. Look at the Mac mini and the AOpens mini PC. Look at the iMac and other all-in-ones, look at the MacBook and the PC Core Duo laptops. Even the PowerMacs are in the same price range as PC workstation counterparts.
 
I wouldn't mind being able to get a Dell configured with OS X. I don't like the all-in-one form factor, and I'd like a mid-level machine for daily use. The Mac Mini is too underpowered, with the integrated graphics and limited expandability, and the Mac Pro will most likely be too expensive/overkill for what I need.

I use a Dell machine with Linux on it at work, and I've had zero problems with it. Their desktop hardware isn't terrible.
 
ccool2ax said:
Dell thing looks Apple-invite style...

except, it's the sibling kept in the basement for 20 years because it's just *too* ugly for the world to see. :rolleyes:

they're trying so hard to excite people the way apple do, and methinks they're failing completely. haha.
 
I'll be buying a Dell then with a Mac OS of course !!
They have good service here in Japan...

Edit: as long as they offer a 59,000 yen model (with a 15 inch LCD monitor) like they do now here in japan
 
In a few months (well, ok, a little over half a year), anyone will be able to order, from store.apple.com, Amazon.com, smalldog.com, or a host of other sites, a DVD that will include every binary that makes up a complete Intel Mac OS X installation.

It might be encrypted, it might be that the installer is designed to prevent installation on any machine other than a genuine, certified, Apple Macintosh, but the DVD itself will exist and be sellable over the counter. There's no other way to get a multi-gigabyte operating system update to existing Mac mini, MacBook, MacBook Pro, and iMac Intel users (not to mention Mac Pro and Macserve users.)

And once that DVD's on sale, it will, if it doesn't already enable installation on non-Macs, be cracked. Someone will find a way of getting that disk to work as the base of an install for any compatible PC. It will no longer be necessary to spend a few days (I just downloaded the Debian DVD images, that's two DVDs, and it took nearly a week with BitTorrent) downloading from various dodgy, likely-to-go-down-at-a-moment's-notice, sites and figure out how to get that burnt to DVD and booted. The "installer" will be so small it'll be mirrored all over the world.

So the question here is not the one most Apple fans like much. It isn't "Should Apple allow Mac OS X run on non-Macs?" That's not for Apple to allow. They can make it hard, but they can't make it impossible. The question is "Does Apple actually want to benefit from Mac OS X on non-Macs?"

The real problem at the moment is few people are seeing that. They keep flashing back to 1995, a time when Mac OS didn't have a great rep, when Windows 95 had just come out and was technically better than the Mac OS of the time (albeit with a poorer UI), and when few outside of Mac circles actually wanted a Mac. Moreover, at that time, Mac OS didn't run on the popular hardware of the day. Whether this will be a repeat of that time is open to question given the massive difference in market conditions, but moreover, it's important that Apple make it work if they didn't last time, because they don't have a choice in the matter.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Dell and Apple are putting together a "solution" for people who want Dell hardware with Apple's software. If Apple makes deals with individual manufacturers, it at least has some control over what's going on. It can, at least, manage the experience, and ensure that they definitely see a slice of the revenue for all Mac OS X using machines.
 
How is Apple to survive on software sales only when 1/3rd of all software is pirated. Apple will have to implement some kind of a activation feature to "prevent" piracy.
Also, will move like mean that Apple would stop tech supporting such Dell computers with Mac OS X?
 
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