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Gosh, Dell are awful. We use Dell computers at college... I'm buying a Macbook Pro next year; nothing will convince me otherwise. Not even the copy Dell are producing.
 
Otherwise a good laptop but why ruin it with 720p panel? That's what netbook have. If I was about to pay $999 for a laptop, I would expect at least 1600x900 on 14". Just give a BTO option if nothing else.
Display panels are probably the easiest place to make an extra $5-20 margin on a notebook.

My Macbook has quite possibly one of the worst TN panels I have ever had to use. They have gotten a little better in the past 4 years though.
 
Gosh, Dell are awful. We use Dell computers at college... I'm buying a Macbook Pro next year; nothing will convince me otherwise. Not even the copy Dell are producing.

You must have never used HP's DV line lol.
 
I like how the OP says "yawn" yet he ran to MacRumors to make a post.
This has to be the only Forum I go to where people make threads just to talk down about other brands...

Honestly, it's the same case with me. I'm an avid photographer and I'm into video games ... Yet the fanboys of those products have at least some decorum when it comes to brand loyalty.

Here it's just unabashed belittling of other products. It's funny because anyone can save up some money and buy a Macbook so I don't understand why Macbook users feel so good about using Macbooks.
 
Honestly, it's the same case with me. I'm an avid photographer and I'm into video games ... Yet the fanboys of those products have at least some decorum when it comes to brand loyalty.

Here it's just unabashed belittling of other products. It's funny because anyone can save up some money and buy a Macbook so I don't understand why Macbook users feel so good about using Macbooks.

Its par of why most people assume only douche bags use Mac's. If you watch this site its proven true.
 
Display panels are probably the easiest place to make an extra $5-20 margin on a notebook.

My Macbook has quite possibly one of the worst TN panels I have ever had to use. They have gotten a little better in the past 4 years though.

Offer a crappy 1600x900 TN panel for $100 extra and people would still buy it. All upgrades are a very easy source of money.
 
I don't see why these products should be competing each other. If you want great value spec laptop that does all rounding average good, Dell is for you. If you want the most flawless operating system for best user experience, OSX Lion equipped MacBook Pro is for you
 
If it had a better display it would make a good Hackintosh. Discrete graphics in a 13" form factor with a 14" screen, that sounds like what Apple should have been doing all along. If Dell makes it out of aluminum and the trackpad is decent, then I'd say it's a pretty good value.
 
Offer a crappy 1600x900 TN panel for $100 extra and people would still buy it. All upgrades are a very easy source of money.
I would be happy with a BTO 1600x900 panel on many notebooks. The problem is they do not offer them, the only option is 1080p, or you need to get a 17" model.
 
- Optical drive, waste of space and battery time.
- NVIDIA graphics hardware in a computer-no thanks i lost nearly $3000 due to their defective chips in 2007/2008/2009 MBPs.
- Glossy display-no thanks, i buy a silver mirror, if i need one.

Dell XPS 14z.
[*]2nd-generation Intel Core i5 and Core i7 Dual Core processor choices

What else should they use in a mainstream notebook/laptop? C2D processors, or what?

[*]6GB dual channel DDR3 up to 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz memory options

6 GB? Wow! You can buy that as a standard customer for, yeah for, let us see, let us see, for, for, for, for yeah 40 US$. Great feature! Not! And Dell can buy the same RAM probably for 2-5 US$. Yeah.

[*]Fast 7200RPM hard disk storage, from 500GB up to 750GB

...ignoring the fact, that most high capacity 5400 rpm drives are faster than most low capacity 7200 rpm drives.
 
Its par of why most people assume only douche bags use Mac's. If you watch this site its proven true.

It's the "little brother" syndrome. Many of the die hard fans around here can't fill their inferiority complexes with enough hate for other manufacturer's products. I'm convinced the average age around here is 11 years old.
 
It's the "little brother" syndrome. Many of the die hard fans around here can't fill their inferiority complexes with enough hate for other manufacturer's products. I'm convinced the average age around here is 11 years old.

Most Mac users know what they want. They do not want to be part of the 90-95 percent virus attracting, yes-i-want-plastic-everyday-windows-7-is-so-great crowd.

I can understand them, because i'm one of them.
 
So just because your work gave you a bad Dell, all Dell machines are bad right? :D

I've actually had multiple Dells, both here at work and as my in the case of the XPS my personal machine. I just don't care for them. In my experience at least, they tend to have a lot of problems and just aren't built all that well. That is just my personal bias against Dell. I have had bad experiences with them, so you can't fault me for not liking their products.
 
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I agree, I have been an "IT guy" for many years, and I have yet to see a Dell laptop that isn't rattly and nasty after a year of use. My wife has had a work one for 18 months, trackpad buttons not working, and she is on her third screen.

...and I'm not just being a Dell hater, their servers and desktops are largely fine.
 
I agree, I have been an "IT guy" for many years, and I have yet to see a Dell laptop that isn't rattly and nasty after a year of use. My wife has had a work one for 18 months, trackpad buttons not working, and she is on her third screen.

...and I'm not just being a Dell hater, their servers and desktops are largely fine.

Their Workstation Laptops are nice. I don't know what kind of IT guy doesn't deal with those.

Those things are built like tanks. Sure they're not super thin but they're powerful and durable, and that's what Dell set out to do when they made them.

I'm not a fan of Dell's consumer line of notebooks either, but their business line is decent. I've been using the same work laptop for 2 years, it has crappy performance because the single sign on nonsense they put us through, but its build quality is fine.
 
I did mean their consumer / corporate lines really, rather than the "precision" models - I have run into a couple of those, and yes they are more solid...however my preference for "built like a tank" machines was always ThinkPads back in the day.
 
I like how the OP says "yawn" yet he ran to MacRumors to make a post.
This has to be the only Forum I go to where people make threads just to talk down about other brands...

Too lazy to find a DellRumors and post about MBP. :p

The only good thing about Dell is reasonable prices for options ($71 for more ram, not Apples $100 for same amount), but Dell hardware is mix bad IMHO. Their cheap stuff is incredibly bad, while higher end stuff is good.
 
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