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Dell released their newest Ultrasharp model ,U2723QE, U3223QE Ultrasharp monitor
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He specifically asked about DP daisy chaining. This needs Displayport MST which Apple kind of refuses to implement, but the feature is on the Dell display he has. Even adding a Thunderbolt dock into the mix, those two displays will need to have 2 separate cables going to the TB dock, but yes the dock only needs one cable to the Mac though.
Thank you both. This was my understanding as well, that DisplayPort MST is required and Apple doesn't (refuses) то support it. I have a Dell TB dock, but not sure it's worth putting into the mix for the fairly minor convenience of eliminating one cable which I only plug/unplug a few times a week.
Follow up question, how, i.e. what's the protocol that allows this all to work with TB dock and just one wire?
Further, Thunderbolt 4 specification mandates the "one cable two display streams" requirement. It is for this reason that all the Apple Silicon Macs that cannot do two external display (with or without lid close), they do not qualify to be called TB4. Thus Apple had to call those ports "TB3/ USB4".
I think every Intel Mac can do two displays from Thunderbolt 3 or one dual tile display.
All Apple Silicon Macs can do dual tile displays from Thunderbolt 3 (one DisplayPort SST signal per half of the display) so they can connect 5K dual tile displays like the Dell UP2715K or LG UltraFine 5K.
MST does work for old 4K displays that were dual tile displays that used one MST stream for each side. I don't know if Apple still supports that with Apple Silicon Macs.
All Apple Silicon Macs can do dual tile displays from Thunderbolt 3 (one DisplayPort SST signal per half of the display) so they can connect 5K dual tile displays like the Dell UP2715K or LG UltraFine 5K.
MST does work for old 4K displays that were dual tile displays that used one MST stream for each side. I don't know if Apple still supports that with Apple Silicon Macs.
Yes, the early 4K displays were dual tile and used two 1920x2160 60Hz MST streams because there were no controllers that supported 3840x2160 60Hz SST.
You mean the Dell 5K UP2715K. The U2715H is a 1440p display.
The LG UltraFine 5K is the same as the Dell 5K UP2715K except the LG gets both DisplayPort SST 2560x2880 60Hz signals from Thunderbolt 3.
I see, I was skeptical going into 4k early so I missed this early batch. In fact I might have avoided using them specifically because MST was involved.
Oh yeah totally mixed up the models; yes *that* one 5k display. The LG was released slightly later, probably to wait for TB3 being available on Macs. Also If I recall, Apple or LG did some trickery as well that was outside of the TB / DP specs requirement to have single cable work. Something to do with timing controller.
Regardless, Apple has never supported MST in the most common way, that is to daisy chain.
The U2713H is 2560x1440. Why wouldn't it be supported? Any Mac, past or future should support it. It has DisplayPort, HDMI, and DVI-D Dual Link inputs. DisplayPort and HDMI should be easy. DVI-D Dual Link will require a DisplayPort to Dual Link DVI-D Adapter to achieve full 2560x1440 resolution.
I ask because I own one. Bought a new Mac mini which I haven’t connected yet but I recall that when I bought my previous Mac mini I had to run some scripts posted on the internet.
I’m interested in the Dell UltraSharp U2723QE and would like to know what improvements have been made in the latest revisions.
Is Rev A03 currently the latest for the U2723QE, or has Rev A04 (or a newer version) been released?
I place a high value on first-class picture quality.
As I do image and video editing, excellent color reproduction and top-notch image quality are essential for my work.
Is Rev A03 currently the latest for the U2723QE, or has Rev A04 (or a newer version) been released?
I place a high value on first-class picture quality.
- Exceptional color accuracy
- Outstanding sharpness
As I do image and video editing, excellent color reproduction and top-notch image quality are essential for my work.
I moved from a Viewsonic 27" 1080p display (which really wasn't bad at all) to the U2723Q, and it proved to be a "nice jump upwards", particularly in clarity.
I still notice a little "backlight bleed-through" when watching videos, however. Not intolerable, but it's still there. So the improved "black tech" of the Ultrasharp helps only so much, in my opinion.
What I'm waiting for now is a 27" 4k OLED display. Very few of these out there yet, and I've read that (for some reason I don't get), the pixel shape or arrangement on current OLED displays isn't best for text (have yet to see a real explanation on that). So I'll keep holding out a little longer.
But til then, the Dell Ultrasharp is indeed very nice.
I still notice a little "backlight bleed-through" when watching videos, however. Not intolerable, but it's still there. So the improved "black tech" of the Ultrasharp helps only so much, in my opinion.
What I'm waiting for now is a 27" 4k OLED display. Very few of these out there yet, and I've read that (for some reason I don't get), the pixel shape or arrangement on current OLED displays isn't best for text (have yet to see a real explanation on that). So I'll keep holding out a little longer.
But til then, the Dell Ultrasharp is indeed very nice.
Yeah those OLED 27 1440PP won't be great for some years to come for office work, I am using the Asus P27AQDM purely for gaming next to my Dell 32. Those OLED icm with 1440P and text clarity is not great, need to be 4K and RGB in this case for WOLED.
Even with 32” 4k OLED monitors there is the debate with QD-OLED vs WOLED I think. I wonder if Apple has an answer to this yet, since they are aiming to replace the 14” and 16” with OLEDs where it seems on the iPad Pro it is already kind of fine (except the grey background grain issue).
I have an A02 that I’m quite happy with. Having said that, it’s nothing compared to an Apple XDR or a high-end Eizo. Bottom line is you get what you pay for. You could get two or three (or five or thirty!) of these for the cost of a true reference monitor. The real question here is what is your budget? There will be drawbacks to anything on the lower price end.
In comparison, the Dell U2723QE offers significantly more for the price and is characterized by first-class picture quality. My budget is a maximum of €500 and I attach great importance to excellent picture quality. After 10 years with the iiyama XB2779, I would now like to switch to the Dell U2723QE. According to a lot of information on the internet and the responses from AI tools such as OpenAI ChatGPT and Google Genmini, the Dell U2723QE is significantly better than the XB2779 and many other monitors. I am convinced that the Dell U2723QE is an excellent choice and I will make a significant leap in picture quality with it. This is to be expected as the Dell monitor is around 10 years newer. As for the Rev A03 version, it should offer even better performance with further optimizations and improvements.
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