All hail to the Social Justice Warriors!
unrelated note. that photo sans text is a very accurate portrayal how I'm currently feeling trying to collaborate with someone on a project at work atm.
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Denise Young Smith Takes on New Role as VP of Diversity and Inclusion at Apple
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unrelated note. that photo sans text is a very accurate portrayal how I'm currently feeling trying to collaborate with someone on a project at work atm.
I'd question what your reaction would be if she was actually hired because she was better than everybody else at the role, and her skin colour was incidental.
This is hillarious, a symptom of everything wrong with "diversity". She clearly was given the role to boost their diversity portfolio and because of affirmative action. What irony.
Which would be easy to do if you remove names from resumes and stop doing in person interviews in the hiring process. Those things allow biases to be injected.
Apple appeasing their snowflake customers. I don't agree with it, but I get what they're doing. It's marketing.
When it comes to lack of diversity, you need to look at the root cause of it. For example, only 20% of computer engineering degrees go to women. This means 4 out of 5 people who pursue a computer science degree are men.
So it's no surprise that more men work at Apple than women.
So it's no surprise that more men work at Apple than women.
Is there something that doesn't stir up a negative reaction on MR? This woman just got a great position with a great company hoping to promote great practices. How can that really get you guys so cranky?
Jeez. It's so sad that companies these days have to hire such pointless roles. ANYONE can succeed today if they work hard. NO ONE cares what your skin color is, it doesn't make you special, or worse. No one gives a ****. If you show up, do good work, and are QUALIFIED, this is what gets you a ****ing job.
There are so many issues today with employers feeling that they HAVE to hit a quota on specific skin colors, sexes, etc., that they're passing up people who are more qualified for the job (that maybe have another skin color, like white, or are male).
If you want to be great, you work for it. If you want to be average, act/work like an average person. Your skin color/race/whatever doesn't have anything to do with it. If you're black and you get denied for a job, it means you weren't qualified. If you're white and get denied a job, it means you weren't qualified. Neither one is racist. And pointless job positions like the one in this MR post only perpetuates the fact that unqualified people are getting jobs because of their race/skin tone, which is technically racial profiling/stereotyping, which is what SJW wanted to abolish, right? Hypocritical.
There are so many issues today with employers feeling that they HAVE to hit a quota on specific skin colors, sexes, etc., that they're passing up people who are more qualified for the job (that maybe have another skin color, like white, or are male).
If you want to be great, you work for it. If you want to be average, act/work like an average person. Your skin color/race/whatever doesn't have anything to do with it. If you're black and you get denied for a job, it means you weren't qualified. If you're white and get denied a job, it means you weren't qualified. Neither one is racist. And pointless job positions like the one in this MR post only perpetuates the fact that unqualified people are getting jobs because of their race/skin tone, which is technically racial profiling/stereotyping, which is what SJW wanted to abolish, right? Hypocritical.
Erm, the previous head of diversity at Apple was a white guy. Odd that you didn't notice this, given that you think it's so rare.
(He went on to be the head of diversity at Twitter btw.)
Looking at the numbers, white and black people are under-represented as a percentage of the population, and Asians are over represented.
One wonders if, in the name of diversity, more white people are hired. I doubt it.
One wonders if, in the name of diversity, more white people are hired. I doubt it.
Best person for the job gets it. Color shouldn't matter.
She was already working for Apple for over 20 years. What Affirmative action did she gain if she was already a press leader?
Sort of like at Berkeley? Where everyone has the right to speak their opinions?
No. I think what they are saying is that Apple already is diverse and inclusive and adding a figure head to it is the ridiculous part.
I mean she's not going to diversify the products and make sure we have yellow, brown and black lightning cables, earbuds and wall adapters is she?
I mean she's not going to diversify the products and make sure we have yellow, brown and black lightning cables, earbuds and wall adapters is she?
The amount of ignorance in this thread is worrying.
That's how it should work. That's not how it does work.
Pretending that everything is okay is just an excuse to avoid working to make things better. At best, it's lazy. At worst, it's complicit bigotry.
If you're in a minority group then you can still get a top job, sure, but it will (on average) be more difficult for you than for someone who isn't. That's not right, and needs to change. Change requires active work, and it's a slow, long-term thing.
"VP of Diversity and Inclusion"? Gotta love our new, gentle American society. 
I love this guy. He gets it, why can't apple.
Too true. She has no real background or experience in the specialization of diversity in hiring and she has a degree from the notorious University of Phoenix.
Diversity and Inclusion - code words for exclusion. Are you serious Cook? His SJW bull's gone too far. Focus on your damn products Timmy and stop with this ****
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These made up jobs are getting out of hand now.
It's warranted when, as a company, there is one set of standards for diversity, women, etc that Cook and Apple espouse when talking to western audiences, and another set of standards for diversity, women, etc they espouse (or are tight-lipped about) when addressing non-western audiences. It's hypocritical and very evident.
Diversity is not a problem with a few individuals. It's a problem with society, and with who holds the power.
Likewise, you don't fix it by fixing a few people. You aren't done fixing it until you've fixed society at large. Apple is stepping up and being a part of that wider solution.
And I have had the same. But I have family members and friends who have experienced discrimination. From the looks of the interviewer who is shocked because the name and speech of the person during a phone interview doesn't "match" the person they just met.
Or the blatant idiotic reasoning that they got their jobs because of AA...
New MR forum all-time low: criticizing inclusion putting it on the same level as I/O ports on computers.
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