Between teeth cavities are possible, you know.
What about Saturday and Sunday?I'll bet that I have most of you beat. This is my Monday-Friday routine ...
1. Waterpik with a capful of bleach (~90 seconds)
2. Waterpik with plain water (rinses out bleach from Waterpik, which will break it down quickly)
3. Proxy brush with baking soda (two different brush sizes)
4. Floss (unwaxed)
5. OralB electronic tooth brush with baking soda
6. Brush tongue
7. Scrape tongue
8. Mouthwash
I had a good amount of gum recession and needed to fix it. One periodontist wanted to do surgery. But I started going to a dentist (and hygienist) who got me on the right track. Now it's my normal routine and because of it, my teeth and gums should last me for the rest of my life.
I floss, then brush with electric toothbrush for 3 minutes, then use water pic, both after breakfast and then again at night before bed. Also us toothpick to clean between teeth and stimulate gum tissue after lunch. Dentist says this will help to avoid, or at least slow down, periodontal disease and eventual loss of bone in jaw as one ages. It's a hassle, but I think it's worth it in the long run.
I'll bet that I have most of you beat. This is my Monday-Friday routine ...
1. Waterpik with a capful of bleach (~90 seconds)
2. Waterpik with plain water (rinses out bleach from Waterpik, which will break it down quickly)
3. Proxy brush with baking soda (two different brush sizes)
4. Floss (unwaxed)
5. OralB electronic tooth brush with baking soda
6. Brush tongue
7. Scrape tongue
8. Mouthwash
I had a good amount of gum recession and needed to fix it. One periodontist wanted to do surgery. But I started going to a dentist (and hygienist) who got me on the right track. Now it's my normal routine and because of it, my teeth and gums should last me for the rest of my life.
What about Saturday and Sunday?
I sometimes add mouthwash to waterpik. I will try bleach too. I also floss first, then brush, then waterpik, in that order, per dentist instruction.
What about Saturday and Sunday?
I'll bet that I have most of you beat. This is my Monday-Friday routine ...
1. Waterpik with a capful of bleach (~90 seconds)
2. Waterpik with plain water (rinses out bleach from Waterpik, which will break it down quickly)
3. Proxy brush with baking soda (two different brush sizes)
4. Floss (unwaxed)
5. OralB electronic tooth brush with baking soda
6. Brush tongue
7. Scrape tongue
8. Mouthwash
I had a good amount of gum recession and needed to fix it. One periodontist wanted to do surgery. But I started going to a dentist (and hygienist) who got me on the right track. Now it's my normal routine and because of it, my teeth and gums should last me for the rest of my life.
I floss every every day. It makes the entire dentist process so much easier. Electric toothbrush, floss, and mouthwash have improved my teeth immensely.
Thread revival Why start a new thread?
Any dentists in the forum?
During my teeth cleaning, I've had a capped tooth with a tendency of pronounced bleeding when I floss. The dentist thinks I need to replace this cap because of a slight ridge under the gum line that harbors infection, in the dentist's words.
However, since this analysis, I have been more devoted regarding flossing and the bleeding has stopped, yet at my last cleaning, when I told the hygienist the bleeding was no longer evident, she said there was still blood up under the gum, (although none appears when I floss). I asked if a new cap would guarantee fixing the problem and dentist said no guarantees and then in a semi-threatening manner she told me if I did not want to do that, she could recommend me for a surgical solution.
I should of asked her (I'll probably call the office next week), but what is worst case if I just continue flossing? As I said, no blood when I floss.
Not helping the situation is that at some level, I feel that this office is in the business of generating business for itself. When me and my wife first went there, they told both of us we have paraiodontel disease. Yet when my wife came in for her cleaning, the hygienist wondered why they were having her do this. I think it's because they can charge the insurance company more for pariodontel vs regular cleaning, however...
Pariodontel Disease is described as bacterial infections in the vicinity of your teeth. Bleeding gums is one of the symptoms. However, if your gums bleed when you floss, but then the bleeding goes away when you floss regularily, can this be called pariodontel disease? Or should it just be considered a chronic condition/disease that is kept in check by brushing and flossing? I assume that gum depth when they take measurements is related. I have several 5s, a measurement of depth between the tooth and gum.
Thoughts? Thanks!![]()
Thanks for the great waterpik suggestions. This tool, especially the periodontal tip and for general gum massage is outstanding!
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I'm really surprised the dentist did not suggest this, but I seriously wonder about their motivation oh patient health vs generating income for their business...
Question about the capful of bleach, I suppose that is to kill bacteria. What about hydrogen peroxide, which also is recommended for gargling. I need to ask my wife how much she dulutes it if at all. I'm thinking 50% and I'm wondering if it is less caustic to the external working of the waterpik?
Thread revival Why start a new thread?
Any dentists in the forum?
During my teeth cleaning, I've had a capped tooth with a tendency of pronounced bleeding when I floss. The dentist thinks I need to replace this cap because of a slight ridge under the gum line that harbors infection, in the dentist's words.
However, since this analysis, I have been more devoted regarding flossing and the bleeding has stopped, yet at my last cleaning, when I told the hygienist the bleeding was no longer evident, she said there was still blood up under the gum, (although none appears when I floss). I asked if a new cap would guarantee fixing the problem and dentist said no guarantees and then in a semi-threatening manner she told me if I did not want to do that, she could recommend me for a surgical solution.
I should of asked her (I'll probably call the office next week), but what is worst case if I just continue flossing? As I said, no blood when I floss.
Not helping the situation is that at some level, I feel that this office is in the business of generating business for itself. When me and my wife first went there, they told both of us we have paraiodontel disease. Yet when my wife came in for her cleaning, the hygienist wondered why they were having her do this. I think it's because they can charge the insurance company more for pariodontel vs regular cleaning, however...
Pariodontel Disease is described as bacterial infections in the vicinity of your teeth. Bleeding gums is one of the symptoms. However, if your gums bleed when you floss, but then the bleeding goes away when you floss regularily, can this be called pariodontel disease? Or should it just be considered a chronic condition/disease that is kept in check by brushing and flossing? I assume that gum depth when they take measurements is related. I have several 5s, a measurement of depth between the tooth and gum.
Thoughts? Thanks!![]()
I floss, then brush with electric toothbrush for 3 minutes, then use water pic, both after breakfast and then again at night before bed. Also us toothpick to clean between teeth and stimulate gum tissue after lunch. Dentist says this will help to avoid, or at least slow down, periodontal disease and eventual loss of bone in jaw as one ages. It's a hassle, but I think it's worth it in the long run.
I'll bet that I have most of you beat. This is my Monday-Friday routine ...
1. Waterpik with a capful of bleach (~90 seconds)
2. Waterpik with plain water (rinses out bleach from Waterpik, which will break it down quickly)
3. Proxy brush with baking soda (two different brush sizes)
4. Floss (unwaxed)
5. OralB electronic tooth brush with baking soda
6. Brush tongue
7. Scrape tongue
8. Mouthwash
I had a good amount of gum recession and needed to fix it. One periodontist wanted to do surgery. But I started going to a dentist (and hygienist) who got me on the right track. Now it's my normal routine and because of it, my teeth and gums should last me for the rest of my life.
I floss using the little Floss Picks usually 4-5 days a week. I actually tend to do it in my office when no one is around rather than in the bathroom mirror. I use have an Oral-B Triumph toothbrush with the screen that tells you where to brush, a gift from my sister (Dentist + Oral Surgeon). She also gave me a WaterPik, but honestly I find it somewhat of a hassle and it takes up a lot of space on my countertop.
I'm not sure about the first part of your question regarding the cap (crown?), but it seems to me if blood/food is getting stuck between your gum and tooth, it could be problematic. You don't want the gum to become infected or the tooth (if there is contact) to decay.
Periodontal disease encompasses gingivitis and periodontitis, the two most prevalent forms caused by plaque. Gingivitis is simply the inflammation of gums that makes them prone to bleeding- a very common condition. This is reversible. Periodontitis is non reversible and an advanced from of gingivitis. Your body's immune system begins to fight the plaque (as it advances below the gum line) and your immune system ends up destroying your own gum and tooth tissue as collateral damage. Gingivitis can have a range of severity but can be reversed with daily brushing and cleaning. So yes, the situation you have is considered periodontal disease even if it goes away, but it is most likely Gingivitis.
For both these situations, I would suggest getting a 2nd professional opinion if you don't trust the current dentist practice you are seeing. It's no unheard of practitioners to go overboard charging insurances. What was the reason you had your tooth capped in the first place?
First and foremost I'm appalled by the huge number of people that participated in this thread that did not floss! LOL! Oh wow... unbelievable! This is like almost a 10 year old thread and I wonder if every one of the non flossers still has their teeth! Having in mind how I hate to spend my money on odontological treatments, I try my very best to brush and floss on a constant basis so I won't need anything else than teeth cleaning done by my dental hygienist every 6 months. I think if I had done the same as most on here, I'd have dozens of root canals, crowns, onlays, implants, etc. Now, I'm not trying to shame anyone here. I understand that some people sometimes don't go to dentists because of monetary reasons and other unfortunate events. But that's why a good conventional brush and some floss can help you go great lengths and take care of your teeth. You don't even need **** like Listerine (yeah, it is a little better now that they took the alcohol off its formula, still it's not really necessary to use a mouthwash every day).
Has your dentist taken an X-ray and shown you the "slight ridge" under the gum? If he can see it or feel it with his instruments, he certainly can show it to you on a X-ray. This is the thing with crowns, veneers, and/or anything you attached to a tooth: if the fitting isn't perfectly performed, and if the final crown is not perfectly designed, there's always a huge chance that food will get into the "cracks." Thus, that "crack" will harbor bacteria like there's no tomorrow. When crowns are placed just over a tooth area that is not under the gum, they generally work wonders. But when part of it goes into your gums, well, it's problematic because the only way to clean something under your gums is by flossing it. Floss slides over your tooth and removes food that is stuck to it, but if you have a little crack/ridge/whatever on its surface, well... you get the gist. Either the floss will also get stuck on it or it will slide over and leave whatever got in there untouched. Now, imagine if it's under your gum? How are your gonna really clean it besides flossing the area? This may not be a problem in the first year, but later on, something will happen.
Severe receding gums and deep pockets (I think 5s is very deep actually) can only be cleaned by a periodontist. Yep: regular cleaning won't do much in this case. Receding gums can be controlled but there's no cure for them. It's not possible to make gum grow back and cover the tooth root that is exposed. In some extreme cases surgery can restore parts of it. But I hear the final result is manly aesthetic since the grafts are somewhat loosen and food can get inside of it still. Some minimal developments and discoveries have been made in receding gum surgical treatments, but nothing too revolutionary yet. So you see: brushing and flossing is the best way to prevent that your gums keep on receding besides also visiting your dentist regularly.
Besides poor dental hygiene, one of the main factors that causes receding gums is over brushing. People that go full force on their teeth are only complicating their situation instead of doing some good profilaxia. Another major factor is bruxism.
I think you need to visit a good periodontist since you don't trust whomever you're seeing now. Also, your thinking is correct: if you floss and your gum bleeds, you shouldn't stop. It's bleeding because something is in there. If it stops, it's because it's healthy again. However, in your case, you are talking about a tooth that was, as you say, capped. So only a dentist would be able to say if it's alright.
I always tell people with receding gums to brush with brushes made by Curaprox. They are very gentle on the gums and effective. Electric brushes are a touchy subject. Although some dentists prescribes them to everyone, some just advise people with compromised motor skills to rely on them. Waterpik is not a "tool" you should use on a daily basis. It can surely eff up your gums.
Waterpik daily? Hmm no no. And toothpick? I never in my whole life have heard any dentist recommending toothpicks to clean teeth! Sounds barbaric to me.
Bleach? wow... I wonder about the current state of your enamels. Are you talking about whitening bleach or what? Either way, besides weakening the surface of your teeth this waterpik + bleach combination can cause tooth erosion due to bleach's corrosive nature. Add baking soda to this mix and it sounds like you've developed an odontological molotov cocktail! Good dental hygienists have long ago quit using bicarbonate sodium spray during their procedures because it made teeth (and especially fillings) rough. But it seems you're improvising your own way to do that to our teeth. Tell me: is all that really necessary? Who told you to brush that way? If I were you I'd start with a good brushing with some good old toothpaste and add steps 4, 6, 7. Then every 15 days step 2.
For everyone with sensitive gums: buy a toothbrush by Curaprox. It's excellent.
I do have some bone loss
no to your question, but for all Remember I always had private ones.Over the last 15 years, I’ve had three dentists. The first was a private practice, no issues with my gums, but I had to switch due to change of insurance. The second dentist was a corporate chain, and when my wife and I walked in there, we got “the sky is falling”, you’ve got gum disease and need deep cleanings! … Which cost extra of course, not covered by insurance
We ended up, leaving that dentist for their insistence of being paid upfront, not waiting for insurance to come through, and most of the time we ended up overpaying. The third dentist was another private practice, and the first thing I asked after an exam is do I have gingivitis? The answer was no. So I’ve been seeing this dentist for about five years who I’m happy with, but due to a change in insurance again, we’re not in their network anymore.
So I set myself up to see a new dentist. Of note, another corporate chain, I should’ve known better, but it was the same story again, “you have gingivitis and we’ve got the spiffy deep cleaning with a laser and it only cost $700 a cleaning every three months”.Am I imagining this or are these corporate dentists pushing a scam or under pressure to create an income flow?
I do have some bone loss and when they probe my gums, the depth readings are mostly 1, 2,3s with a couple 4,5s. My last exam previous to this, the dentist noted gums were pink and firm, one area with a 5 that they were gonna keep an eye on. I can’t say whose depth readings were more accurate, but the push for a laser cleaning seems suspicious to me, based on what my previous dentist has said about my gums.
So I’m soliciting feedback if you’ve had any “suspicious “pricing from dentists, and were they private practices or corporate chain?