Designed in California Made in the USA

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by abz1981, Feb 7, 2013.

  1. abz1981 macrumors 65816

    Jan 3, 2011
    As the title says. I wonder how much of a more premium on Apple products such as Iphones, we would end up paying, if Apple shifted the whole production and assembly to the USA.

    I mean i have noticed a lot of haters of foxconn and having production made in China etc. However for all those people who are hating the production facility in China, would you actually want to end up paying more, for what the Iphone already costs.

    Yes we need to help our economy and bring jobs back to the USA etc. However would you still want to end up paying more of a premium on Apple products?
  2. BanterClaus macrumors regular


    Feb 19, 2011
    It depends how much more.

    As a non-american (British), I wouldn't be willing to pay a huge amount more just to see production return to the US. Obviously our economies are closely linked though so paying SLIGHTLY more to know something was produced in the West may be acceptable.
  3. abz1981 thread starter macrumors 65816

    Jan 3, 2011
    I agree with you. Maybe we will one day face a situation where the home markets of each country would end up producing a phone that suits them best. For example rumor is that the new blackberry is not going to do well in blackberrys keymarkets outside the USA and Europe, in India and Indonesia, as the cost is too high. So therefore blackberry may make a cheaper version for them markets.
  4. Mrbobb macrumors 601

    Aug 27, 2012
    The whole thread is moot.

    If u been paying attention, Apple will probably do some assembly (only) to the iMac line. And then if (big if) the jobs comes back to the U.S., the trend is, robots will do them, not people.
  5. err404 macrumors 68020

    Mar 4, 2007
    There would still be a massive amount of skilled labor required to support the robots and design/update/maintain the lines.
  6. wxman2003, Feb 7, 2013
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    wxman2003 Suspended

    Apr 12, 2011
    Low paying assembly line jobs are not good for US. That's why they were shipped to China. The fact that companies are thinking of bringing those types of jobs back just shows how bad the economy is. It's just another race to the bottom and how much real wages have fallen in the US. Instead we should be focusing on getting more students interested in math, science and engineering which will keep the high tech jobs in US. Otherwise, those jobs will be shipped off to China, and we will become their cheap uneducated labor force.
  7. cynics macrumors G4

    Jan 8, 2012
  8. abz1981 thread starter macrumors 65816

    Jan 3, 2011
    Maybe it will end up like irobots for real lol
  9. adcx64 macrumors 65816


    Nov 17, 2008
    I come from an union family, my dad being president of a large one, and I'd certainly pay an extra amount to have my phone made here.
  10. abz1981 thread starter macrumors 65816

    Jan 3, 2011
    Agree with this.
  11. surjavarman macrumors 6502a

    Nov 24, 2007
    I hope not. Americans are lazy and often call in sick. Asians are more skilled and work faster. I am already waiting like 2 months at launch with these skilled workers. If the yields are even lower and the prices are higher that would be awful
  12. abz1981 thread starter macrumors 65816

    Jan 3, 2011
    I don't think you can generalise all Americans like that. That's like me saying all British people have yellow teeth. You get lazy people in every country.
  13. sviato macrumors 68020


    Oct 27, 2010
    HR 9038 A
    I wouldn't pay any premium. Most of the Chinese workers actually want to work in the factories, it's not slave labor over there even if the conditions aren't top notch sometimes. Why waste money on Americans when someone else will do the same work for less?

    I'm sure Apple's shareholders would also be pissed from the cost increase of manufacturing in the US.
  14. abz1981 thread starter macrumors 65816

    Jan 3, 2011
    I also think that to what we think is low pay in for example china may be a decent pay in china. You can't expect every country to have the same level of pay for employees.
  15. Brounmoney macrumors 6502

    Jan 31, 2012
    I believe some time last year President Obama ask Tim Cook this same question and Cook said it really would not drive the cost up, but there was some other reason they did not do it. I will try to look the article up.
  16. jav6454 macrumors P6


    Nov 14, 2007
    1 Geostationary Tower Plaza
    Profit Margins for Apple will go down considerably if production returns to the US. In the end, Apple was made by Steve with profit in mind, remember that.
  17. CEmajr macrumors 601

    Dec 18, 2012
    Charlotte, NC
    I would pay a little more for an iPhone made in America.

    Truth of the matter is that all those factory jobs will likely never return to the USA. We've been passing "free" trade laws since the 70s and effectively shipped our manufacturing jobs overseas. Domestic wages dropped and corporate profits soared. This is the way it will be for a long time.
  18. Mrbobb macrumors 601

    Aug 27, 2012
    It's all politics folks. Low level assembly jobs are not coming back. Don't go OCD about ur cost.
  19. wxman2003 Suspended

    Apr 12, 2011
    Apple is not going to pay someone in the US $20 an hour to build an iPhone. And since 90% of the rare earth elements that are needed to build the critical parts of the phone (battery, LCD, etc) are mined in China, it makes no sense to ship assembly jobs back to the US.
  20. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
    Agreed. I would be willing to pay a little more, but don't think that these jobs are coming back.
  21. macMD macrumors 6502


    Nov 25, 2005
    New York
    I simply don't buy their excuses it would cost way too much to build their products in the US, what I can believe is they would not have the scales of economy to get their forced cheap labor to build the demanded products in such a quick window of time.

    That said, Apple has the cash to do what they need and then some, time to put up or shut up, oh wait that's right their $137+ Billion sits off shore and if they try to bring it home its taxed too high. Oh well.
  22. bushman4 macrumors 68020

    Mar 22, 2011
    Made in the USA........I'd feel better purchasing anything made in the USA as opposed to another country. Let's create jobs in America !
  23. MultiMediaWill macrumors 68000

    Aug 1, 2010
    How crazy would the leaks be if the iPhone was made in USA?
  24. eelw macrumors 6502a


    Sep 19, 2012
    What mass produced products are manufactured in 1st world nations?
  25. Myiphone7 macrumors 6502a

    Nov 18, 2010
    USA made is great if its still $199

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