Details on Sandy-Bridge - 2011 Mac Pro?

[Umbongo]

I read all the sources and citations on the article. Only PC watch say there will be a socket 1356, they also are the sole provider for most of the specifications in that table. Socket 2011 is recognised and reported as replacing 1366 by everyone else.

If you ignore pc.watch then the information we have is that Sandy Bridge will only be an evolution to current lines. If you treat it as fact then Intel are going to have two dual processor platforms which makes no sense to me.

 

[Hellhammer]

If you treat it as fact then Intel are going to have two dual processor platforms which makes no sense to me.

I've never said I treat rumors as facts. Why it makes no sense to have dual CPU platforms? For most people, there is no need for it but there are people who needs more speed than current single CPU platforms can offer plus more cores = more heat = lower frequency

I just said that LGA 1356 might be a hoax but does that really even change anything? It would probable be that CPUs with more than 4 cores + Xeons would use 2011 and the mainstream CPUs would use 1155

Oh, and keep in mind that this is just speculation, Intel may surprise us

 

[iMacmatician]

I read all the sources and citations on the article. Only PC watch say there will be a socket 1356, they also are the sole provider for most of the specifications in that table. Socket 2011 is recognised and reported as replacing 1366 by everyone else.

There's an older source that stated 1356 (B2) for high-end desktop, it also gave Sandy Bridge-HE (-DT) info. Things might have changed since then. 1356 appears to be just -EN (as of last month…).

So no, it's not mostly inaccurate, given that multiple sources have stated the 2/4-core variants' specs (they seem to be locked down now). As for the rest of the stuff I think at least half of it is accurate. PC Watch's listing of SNB-EN as a variant just below SNB-EP (succeeds lower part of Westmere-EP) and 4P SNB-EX is accurate (unless Intel changed its roadmaps not long ago) due to those names showing up in an Intel presentation (since been pulled).

If you ignore pc.watch then the information we have is that Sandy Bridge will only be an evolution to current lines. If you treat it as fact then Intel are going to have two dual processor platforms which makes no sense to me.

If we ignore PC Watch then we don't have any server info. If we only look at PC Watch then we don't have any high-end desktop info.

 

[Umbongo]

I've never said I treat rumors as facts. Why it makes no sense to have dual CPU platforms? For most people, there is no need for it but there are people who needs more speed than current single CPU platforms can offer plus more cores = more heat = lower frequency

I just said that LGA 1356 might be a hoax but does that really even change anything? It would probable be that CPUs with more than 4 cores + Xeons would use 2011 and the mainstream CPUs would use 1155

Oh, and keep in mind that this is just speculation, Intel may surprise us

I meant two dual CPU platforms when one has sufficed for so long. But thinking about it more maybe with the current trends in computing having two tiers of high end servers makes sense.

And I don't think it is a hoax, PC Watch are usually right and first to show things to do with chipset features, I just wanted to point out that basing stuff on a wiki article mostly compiled from a poorly translated site wasn't the best source and future tech articles tend to feature a lot of author interpretation.

Back on the subject of the Mac Pro, I'd hope and expect them to continue using the highest powered platform. Let's not forget EN stands for entry level., and looking at the TDPs I doubt we will see 3GHz+ 6 and 8 cores in that line.

 

[nanofrog]

But thinking about it more maybe with the current trends in computing having two tiers of high end servers makes sense.

This would make sense IMO. I see it as an taking the L series parts even further (cut features out = new line) as a means of better competing with AMD in the lower cost market segment.

 

[iMacmatician]

And I don't think it is a hoax, PC Watch are usually right and first to show things to do with chipset features, I just wanted to point out that basing stuff on a wiki article mostly compiled from a poorly translated site wasn't the best source and future tech articles tend to feature a lot of author interpretation.

That's why I tend to go straight to the source(s).