Deus Ex: Human Revolution Arrives on the Mac App Store

[edddeduck]

What sort of settings for a 2011 21.5" iMac with 8GB RAM and the AMD HD Radeon 6770 512Mb would you suggest?

Messed around a bit last night and couldn't get a decent frame rate even with everything turned off and the resolution reduced. Then read that every time you make a change it rebuilds the level, so perhaps I'd have been better off not making so many changes then re-testing for a minute then changing....

So anyone, what sort of settings would it run with?

If you change the settings you need to reload the game to get the best performance improvement. Just like the PC changing the settings while playing does not give you the most performance boost until you restart the game. If you only left it for a few seconds then you will not notice anything as every time you change the settings the game rebuilds and reloads all the level data with the new settings causing some load in stutter. This disappears after a minute but restarting always gives the best effect.

Your card should be able to run Deus Ex really smoothly on that iMac. We have older Macs than yours running the game with fairly high settings so you should be more than OK.

Edwin

 

[iwb100]

If you change the settings you need to reload the game to get the best performance improvement. Just like the PC changing the settings while playing does not give you the most performance boost until you restart the game. If you only left it for a few seconds then you will not notice anything as every time you change the settings the game rebuilds and reloads all the level data with the new settings causing some load in stutter. This disappears after a minute but restarting always gives the best effect.

Your card should be able to run Deus Ex really smoothly on that iMac. We have older Macs than yours running the game with fairly high settings so you should be more than OK.

Edwin

Cheers, so as a rough guide what sort of advanced settings would you expect for me to be able to run it smoothly at 1080p?

 

[edddeduck]

Cheers, so as a rough guide what sort of advanced settings would you expect for me to be able to run it smoothly at 1080p?

With a 512MB card I would drop everything else down and load the game at 1080p and start from there. Remember to get the best experience you should reload the level after changing settings so the engine can optimise for the new settings. The Read Me that comes with the game has a guide on what settings will slow down your Mac the most so what you should disable to get a higher frame rate.

Please note 1080p is a high resolution to be running on a mid range 512MB card as it massively increases the load on your graphics card so it might struggle with the more extreme resolutions. I would personally play at a lower resolution 720p with more settings turned on.

 

[iwb100]

With a 512MB card I would drop everything else down and load the game at 1080p and start from there. Remember to get the best experience you should reload the level after changing settings so the engine can optimise for the new settings. The Read Me that comes with the game has a guide on what settings will slow down your Mac the most so what you should disable to get a higher frame rate.

Please note 1080p is a high resolution to be running on a mid range 512MB card as it massively increases the load on your graphics card so it might struggle with the more extreme resolutions. I would personally play at a lower resolution 720p with more settings turned on.

Thanks, have managed to get it running at 1080p fairly smoothly. Looks good.

Another question, am using the apple magic mouse for now, as only just got the iMac, so is there a way of stopping the scroll from changing your weapon? As its way to sensitive and every time I touch the mouse my weapon changes. Couldn't see it in the controls list......

 

[edddeduck]

Thanks, have managed to get it running at 1080p fairly smoothly. Looks good.

Another question, am using the apple magic mouse for now, as only just got the iMac, so is there a way of stopping the scroll from changing your weapon? As its way to sensitive and every time I touch the mouse my weapon changes. Couldn't see it in the controls list......

No that is not a user editable option.

This is because the Apple Magic Mouse does not simulate a single click forward or backwards on a scroll wheel like other mice its more sensitive. This is a common issue for some users.

You could turn down the sensitivity in the OS System Preferences and wii if that helps you. You could also check out these third party drivers designed to make the Magic mouse easier to use.

http://mac.appstorm.net/roundups/utilities-roundups/5-apps-to-enhance-your-trackpad-magic-mouse/

Finally if you do a fair bit of gaming I would highly recommend a true two button mouse as it makes playing a lot easier and enjoyable.

Edwin

 

[Nightarchaon]

Bought it from Steam on the summer sale, £4.99, running it through wine, getting better performance than the App Store Version an the same hardware (testing alongside my friend who has the same iMac spec as me and bought it from the app store)

Running Smooth as silk at 1080p , using an XBOX 360 gamepad as a controller

Also got a copy on my PS3 for free, Playstation + does have its uses (unlike that stupid Xbox Gold pay-wall)

and to people saying 512mb cards cant handle 1080p, that's nonsense, the memory on the card doesn't effect the speed of the card in that way, sure, you get texture pop in games like Mass Effect 3 or Star Wars:The Old Republic as it has to swap out textures at the initial load of a zone, but, if you have a bucket of ram on system, it will cache what it needs in there, and you don't notice the load time after the 2nd time as its milliseconds slower.

I once ran this as an experiment on a PC, Had two Nvidia cards, same chipset, one was a budget 512mb the other a "pro" 1.2GB and there was no speed difference in rendering scenes at all until you got into the "super" high resolutions, (i.e 2560 by 1440 and higher resolutions)

 

[edddeduck]

Bought it from Steam on the summer sale, £4.99, running it through wine, getting better performance than the App Store Version an the same hardware (testing alongside my friend who has the same iMac spec as me and bought it from the app store)

Running Smooth as silk at 1080p , using an XBOX 360 gamepad as a controller

Also got a copy on my PS3 for free, Playstation + does have its uses (unlike that stupid Xbox Gold paywall)

The performance should be extremely close in most cases. It depends on the card (As they all have different drivers) but we did a bunch of side by sides during development to make sure the Mac and PC were close.

Edwin

 

[Nightarchaon]

The performance should be extremely close in most cases. It depends on the card (As they all have different drivers) but we did a bunch of side by sides during development to make sure the Mac and PC were close.

Edwin

No Offence, but the performance under Parallels is leaps and bounds beyond wrappered games. I use wine occasionally out of convenience, but mostly I run games in bootcamp, usually via bootcamps partition loaded in Parallels, for most DX9 and 10 games Parallels is perfectly acceptable, being only 5-10fps slower than launching into windows via bootcamp, its only when i hit "large scale open world" games, like Just Cause 2 or Skyrim that Parallels does not cut it.

I For one will not purchase games that are non-native, Ill buy games from a software house that produces, IN HOUSE, its Mac versions (Blizzard games, Runic, Valve) but im not paying Full price for a game that has essentially had someone drop it into wine, tweak it a bit, and release it months after the PC version has dropped to £10 or less for the full RRP.

 

[edddeduck]

No Offence, but the performance under Parallels is leaps and bounds beyond wrappered games.

None Taken No Feral game has even been or ever will be a wrapper game so we don't take offence.

I For one will not purchase games that are non-native, Ill buy games from a software house that produces, IN HOUSE, its Mac versions (Blizzard games, Runic, Valve) but im not paying Full price for a game that has essentially had someone drop it into wine, tweak it a bit, and release it months after the PC version has dropped to £10 or less for the full RRP.

Well you should take all the Feral games off your "non-native" list. Every Feral game has the source code modified to run on the Mac, we do not used any .exe, dlls or other wrapper systems. We take the PC (or console or in some cases a mixture) to make the best Mac version with all the Mac features you expect from a Macintosh application.

Sure we are not the original developers but we have spent almost 10 years bringing games to the Mac and every one was a Mac native binary using Macintosh libraries directly without any fake Windows like Parallels or WINE in the background. In some cases especially on the low end cards we actually have better performance and support. This is usually as the PC gamer has higher performance cards but on the Mac people with machines with lower end cards like the older GMA series want to play.

For a few of the LEGO games we actually added shader model 1 into the game (the PC did not have it) so that people could play on the low spec GMA950 machines like the MacBook and Mac mini.

I respect your right to not buy games that are not created by the initial developer however a game being developed and published by a third party does not mean it is not native Mac code optimised for the best experience on the Mac platform. It always depends on the specific port and the technology used.

Edwin

 

[Nightarchaon]

I did not know Feral did the lego games, they worked really well (love me the lego star wars and indiana jones games), get Lego Lord Of The Rings ported quickly !!

in terms of none-developer games, ive been stung to many times by bad ports, dragon age : origins most recently, that has made me VERY wary of purchasing mac games unless they come from the original devs, one bad port can ruin things across the board

 

[edddeduck]

I did not know Feral did the lego games, they worked really well (love me the lego star wars and indiana jones games), get Lego Lord Of The Rings ported quickly !!

in terms of none-developer games, ive been stung to many times by bad ports, dragon age : origins most recently, that has made me VERY wary of purchasing mac games unless they come from the original devs, one bad port can ruin things across the board

Although I biased (as I work for Feral) I would judge games based on the porting company or publisher involved as you can then judge them on their track record. We really care about making the ports stable and enjoyable to play on the Mac. If you do ever have an issue with a Feral game let us know via support, if it is a genuine issue we always look to fix it in the next patch.

Edwin

 

[iwb100]

I think the Deus Ex HR port is fantastic. But then I'm not a hardcore PC gamer, as years back I got sick of updating the GPU at a cost every year just to play the latest game. So went xbox 360 for gaming.

Since getting the iMac recently I'm playing a bit on there. Fine for a casual gamer like me, and loving Deus Ex HR!

One more question for edddeduck, in general is triple buffering always worth having on if you've got vsync on? Or will the Vram penalty for someone like me with a 512Mb card outweigh the benefits of triple buffering?

 

[edddeduck]

I think the Deus Ex HR port is fantastic. But then I'm not a hardcore PC gamer, as years back I got sick of updating the GPU at a cost every year just to play the latest game. So went xbox 360 for gaming.

Since getting the iMac recently I'm playing a bit on there. Fine for a casual gamer like me, and loving Deus Ex HR!

One more question for edddeduck, in general is triple buffering always worth having on if you've got vsync on? Or will the Vram penalty for someone like me with a 512Mb card outweigh the benefits of triple buffering?

I don't have a spare 512VRAM Mac right now but my gut instinct says the performance penalty with 512VRAM will not be worth small improvement in visual sharpness.

Edwin

 

[xXGreedXx]

No Air or 13" but as I said above that'll change very soon. The HD 4000 in ivy bridge can handle it.

wait will this work with my new macbook pro 13" i5 dual core processor and intel HD 4000 Graphics i really want this game but i don't want to buy it and not be compatible for that price. please can u tell me if i can play it or not

 

[edddeduck]

wait will this work with my new macbook pro 13" i5 dual core processor and intel HD 4000 Graphics i really want this game but i don't want to buy it and not be compatible for that price. please can u tell me if i can play it or not

The HD4000 will be able to play it once Apple update the OS to fix a driver bug with the HD4000 series. With 10.7.4 and 10.8.0 you will experience a crash after 20 minutes of gameplay due to the driver bug.

We looked into the issue but the bug cannot be avoided in the game code and needs an OS update to fix. Apple know about the issue and we worked with them on a solution hopefully this should be included in a future OS update.

Once that arrives the game will play nice and smoothly.

Edwin

 

[bythewaybtw]

Deus Ex Mac App Store SAVE files location!

Hey fellas- I love the game and've been playing it perfectly on my Macbook Pro, but I was dicking around and thought it'd be cool to switch the text to French (as I know some French, myself), and now the program won't open due to not being able to "find language data." I've looked this up and there are other problems people have with the app not being able to find the language data, but it's unrelated to my problem, which is simply that I can't get back into the game to change the options back to the way I had them.

SO! Two questions:

Does anyone know either:

A) How to access/edit the options from without the game (via some config/ini file)

or

B) WHERE the save games/files are stored so that I can retain those while I reinstall the game in order to return it to its original state.

Thank you so much!
Ben

 

[mrkgoo]

Hi All,

We have a patch out soon for a few minor issues some users have reported.

- Fixes an audio track issue that was affecting the final video of the game
- Fixes an issue that was affecting the right-click function on trackpads
- Fixes a graphical error that occurred on some models in the AMD 4000 series of graphics cards
- Improves support for third-party mice, keyboards and graphics tablets

The HD3000 card is not OFFICIALLY supported however the game will run on minimum settings on the HD3000 without a problem. We have completed the game many times on the HD3000 just the performance is not quite good enough (same with the 320M) so instead of having people complaining and disappointed about the odd stutter and extended loading times on these cards we dropped them from the supported list. They will however run on these cards and for your average gamer you should have a very enjoyable experience taking into account the underpowered nature of those cards.

The high end cards like the 6000 series AMD the Mac performance should be pretty close to the PC (in some cases faster, in some slower). I find the FSAA/Filtering options in OpenGL tend to have more of a hit (both in performance and VRAM usage) compared to DX, same thing is true with resolution.

If you have a 27" iMac and have issues try disabling FSAA as it makes little if any difference visually if you are playing at native resolution, the other option would be to have FSAA on but drop your resolution to 720p. Either of these are not visually noticeable and should give you a major boost in performance.

I monitor macrumors for any big issues but if you have a bug please just drop our support an email, Gerard or one of the support team will have a look into your issue. Support answers at Feral are not cut/paste from a spreadsheet, granted some solutions will be cut paste to save us from carpel tunnel but the person pasting usually wrote the answer in the first place. If you have something strange it gets investigated throughly by the technical people who made the game on the Mac.

We really care about making great "Mac games" not "Games that run on a Mac" so let us know via support or Facebook if you have feedback.

If you are looking the Extra Trailers, Documentary, Music etc it can be found in the Advanced Tab in the pre-game Options panel. They have been formatted for the Mac with full metadata, album art etc. They are all in iOS compatible formats so will sync to your iPad or iPhone. The Mac version has all the DLC and pre order bonus extras pre installed, this all in one version is Mac exclusive (for now).

Thanks for all the feedback good and bad,

Edwin

Hi, I've been playing this and been having a good time. I think the music us incredible!

Also noticed that the soundtrack comes with this game. After opening it, I notice if opens a disk image with m4a files. Can I add these to itunes and sync with my iPhone? Do I just drag them out somewhere?

Is it possible to delete these from the original source Dmg file losing them from the app? If does it actually store them in the .app file and it generates a local version when you open the extras? Basically, if I delete or modify a soundtrack track file from the dmg, do I lose/change it forever?

Seems lokd a good port so far. Another hit from feral!

 

[edddeduck]

Hi, I've been playing this and been having a good time. I think the music us incredible!

Also noticed that the soundtrack comes with this game. After opening it, I notice if opens a disk image with m4a files. Can I add these to itunes and sync with my iPhone? Do I just drag them out somewhere?

Is it possible to delete these from the original source Dmg file losing them from the app? If does it actually store them in the .app file and it generates a local version when you open the extras? Basically, if I delete or modify a soundtrack track file from the dmg, do I lose/change it forever?

Seems lokd a good port so far. Another hit from feral!

Yes, just drag them into your iTunes and it will make a copy and place it in your iTunes library. You cannot delete them as the disk image is read only.

If you bought the game from the AppStore you can always re-download if you accidentally delete the soundtrack.

 

[mrkgoo]

Yes, just drag them into your iTunes and it will make a copy and place it in your iTunes library. You cannot delete them as the disk image is read only.

If you bought the game from the AppStore you can always re-download if you accidentally delete the soundtrack.

Excellent! Thanks for your help!

You mention if you accidentally delete them... But you also say it's read only so should be impossible to delete right? I don't get it. Or are you just saying that IF it were possible to delete, you could also re download? (Not looking forward to downloading 15 GB, if that were ever the case!).

Anyway thanks again, the two ports I've played from Feral, this and Tomb Raider have been excellent! I hope many more are in store!

 

[saturnotaku]

You mention if you accidentally delete them... But you also say it's read only so should be impossible to delete right? I don't get it. Or are you just saying that IF it were possible to delete, you could also re download? (Not looking forward to downloading 15 GB, if that were ever the case!).

I realize you might be loathe to do this, but there is a more comprehensive DX:HR soundtrack available on iTunes. The one that comes with the game has, IIRC, 12 tracks. The iTunes one has double that. It's an extra $10, but IMO worth it if you're a fan of the game. The music is excellent all the way through.

 

[mrkgoo]

I realize you might be loathe to do this, but there is a more comprehensive DX:HR soundtrack available on iTunes. The one that comes with the game has, IIRC, 12 tracks. The iTunes one has double that. It's an extra $10, but IMO worth it if you're a fan of the game. The music is excellent all the way through.

Thanks for that! Nah, I'm not totally in love with the game - it's great, but I'm happy with a few key tracks. The music is excellent though.

I only paid $10 for the game while it was on sale. No matter how much I end up enjoying the game I definitely got value. The port is excellent.

 

[saturnotaku]

I only paid $10 for the game while it was on sale. No matter how much I end up enjoying the game I definitely got value. The port is excellent.

I bought the Ultimate Edition from the Mac App Store for the same price in fall 2013 but didn't get around to installing and playing it until a couple months ago. I'm sorry I waited that long because it's fast become one of my favorites of all time. I managed to track down a retail DVD copy of the Mac version as well so I could have the printed art book.

The Director's Cut was $5 on a Steam daily deal so I picked that up to play in Windows on my Boot Camp partition and get the achievements. I have to say that I don't like it as much as the original release where the Missing Link DLC was a separate mission from the main storyline. Though the Director's Cut performs better, the graphics are of lower quality overall. There are also a fair number of bugs and glitches that are not present on the MAS/DVD version. Now that I've gotten all the achievements on the Director's Cut, I'm going to stick with the MAS/DVD edition.