Deus Ex: Human Revolution Arrives on the Mac App Store

[whooleytoo]

Even though I've played through this on the 360, I'd love to buy it again on the Mac. The only problem is, with my 14/15 month old laptop, I've a 2.66GHz i7 (fine), 8GB RAM (fine), plenty hard disk space... and a lowly 330M.

It's been moaned about thousands of times before, but I really wish Apple would either include high end GPUs on their high-end MBPs (this MBP wasn't cheap!), or offer an affordable Mac with upgradable graphics. Given how Mac Pro sales are so low now, the traditional "it'll cannibalise Mac Pro sales" argument doesn't hold any more.

Having an expensive, year-old Mac which barely scrapes past the minimum requirements is quite a turn-off for Mac gaming for me.

 

[Consultant]

Having an expensive, year-old Mac which barely scrapes past the minimum requirements is quite a turn-off for Mac gaming for me.

None of the MacBook Pro from 2011 comes with 330M. My MBP from last year has a Radeon HD 6750M.

You actually have a 2 year old computer, I am guessing the mid-2010 model.

 

[whooleytoo]

None of the MacBook Pro from 2011 comes with 330M. My MBP from last year has a Radeon HD 6750M.

You actually have a 2 year old computer, I am guessing the mid-2010 model.

That model was released 2 years ago, but when these MBPs were purchased - approx. 15 months ago - they were the current model. (Ok, I did round down from 15 months to 1 year, but it's better than rounding up to 2! )

 

[edddeduck]

That model was released 2 years ago, but when these MBPs were purchased - approx. 15 months ago - they were the current model. (Ok, I did round down from 15 months to 1 year, but it's better than rounding up to 2! )

I have played it on that card it will be smooth but you will have to play on lower settings. We did spend some time working with Nvidia to get the most out of the drivers as we could.

Edwin

 

[VLCR]

Imo the first part was better. Or maybe its because I am not that young anymore.

 

[edddeduck]

Imo the first part was better. Or maybe its because I am not that young anymore.

A bit of both I expect, although I have to say personally (bias aside) I enjoyed both of them equally for different reasons. Better than invisible war anyway

Related to this point is way I experienced a few weeks ago. I thought Transformers the cartoon series was awesome as a kid, so bought the DVD for a trip down memory lane, got to episode two and could not go on, it was so bad compared to my childhood memories!

Edwin

 

[mazz0]

Ooh, I remember! Yeah, it was a bit pap..

 

[David085]

I would get Deus Ex Human Revolution for Mac if it becomes cheap or free I not paying that much for it, Don't think is worth that much.

 

[edddeduck]

I would get Deus Ex Human Revolution for Mac if it becomes [...] free. Don't think is worth that much.

It has to cost something to buy after all it cost upwards of 100 million to release for all platforms and people need to do things like buy food for their families, games programmers are real people who need food.

Mac users who want to play it as they do think it's worth it (after all it has won many Game Of The Year awards beating even beating Skyrim!) can do, people like yourself who don't like the game don't need to buy a copy.

This way everyone wins, you don't buy a game you don't want to play and people who want to play the game on the Mac have the opportunity to play the ultimate version.

Everybody wins

Edwin

 

[Asgorath]

I would get Deus Ex Human Revolution for Mac if it becomes cheap or free I not paying that much for it, Don't think is worth that much.

To reiterate what I said earlier in the thread, I view buying games for Mac in two ways:

1) I get to play a cool new game natively on the Mac.
2) I'm directly supporting the companies who are bringing these games to the Mac.

Feral Interactive released DE:HR on the Mac maybe 6-9 months after it came out for the PC. That's a trend I'd like to see continue, i.e. we get good ports of new games in a timely manner. With the release of Steam and the Mac App Store there has been a big influx of new games to the Mac platform, and the one and only way I can support this is to actually buy games.

If you already bought it on Windows, okay, just play it on Windows. If you don't want to play the game, okay, just don't buy it. However, if you want a vibrant Mac game scene with a wide variety of up-to-date releases, then yeah, buy the game and support Feral (and the other companies who are releasing Mac games). Personally, I'm glad we have more options than COD4, which was the top-selling game in the MAS for quite some time.

 

[edddeduck]

Feral Interactive released DE:HR on the Mac maybe 6-9 months after it came out for the PC. That's a trend I'd like to see continue, i.e. we get good ports of new games in a timely manner.

We are trying to get faster, since moving all our dev in house we have made some major progress. I am glad people noticed but we are not stopping now, we are always trying to get that gap smaller and smaller and the games better and better.

It's a hard task to pull off consistently but to quote Robert Browning, "a man's reach should exceed his grasp, Or what's a heaven for?"

Edwin

 

[imacken]

edddeduck, I (and every other Mac gamer) am happy that Feral are moving forward in this respect. I mean, DEHR was an acceptable 7 or 8 months after the PC release, but what is with Tomb Raider Underworld? I mean, it's 3 or 4 years old, and almost everyone will already have played it on their Macs under Bootcamp or a VM. Why did you choose that?
We Mac users need an indication from companies like Feral soon after PC release, that a port is being worked on, and a very rough estimate of development time, so that we don't just go out and buy the PC versions.

 

[edddeduck]

edddeduck, I (and every other Mac gamer) am happy that Feral are moving forward in this respect. I mean, DEHR was an acceptable 7 or 8 months after the PC release, but what is with Tomb Raider Underworld? I mean, it's 3 or 4 years old, and almost everyone will already have played it on their Macs under Bootcamp or a VM. Why did you choose that?

We have two types of games we port to the Mac. We have new games that are AAA which we try and port as quickly as we can.

Then we have the second type of game which are great games from a few years back that never got ported the first time round but would fit well on the Mac. These are launched at a lower price point on our "Legends" banner. Games like Rome: Total War and Sid Meier's Pirates! are examples of other Legends titles. The advantage of Legends games (and one of the reasons why we do them) is many Mac users have slightly older Mac's or ones with low powered cards like the HD3000 these Mac users can't run high end games like Deus Ex but they will be able to play older games which is where the Legends line comes into it's own.

So to summarise your question, the two games are for different markets.

Tomb Raider Underworld is a Legends game for older Mac's and low powered machines like the MBA.
Deus Ex Human Revolution is a new AAA game for gamers.

We Mac users need an indication from companies like Feral soon after PC release, that a port is being worked on, and a very rough estimate of development time, so that we don't just go out and buy the PC versions.

This is a hard one (which we are always trying to improve), the thing is if we announce really early and something delays the project (as sometimes happens) then we get flack for announcing then not shipping for a while. Empire is an example of this.

If we wait until we know we can make a date and the port is going smoothly, we then get criticism for not telling anyone early enough. This is what some people said about Deus Ex when we announced it.

The key is getting the new games port times even lower so we can be confident the port is going smoothly earlier, so we can announce the dates earlier as that solves both problems at once. The thing is that is easy for me to say in a forum but harder to do in practise. We are always working on being better than the last game and overall the trend has been slow and steady towards that goal.

Finally thanks for the way you asked the questions and the thought you put into it, being on the forums can be tricky for me as I have to remember I am speaking for Feral not just myself even if people are sometimes a little... well you know what I mean

Please feel free to follow up if you have any other questions I will do my best to answer as fully as I can within the boundaries of a public forum.

Edwin

 

[imacken]

Edwin, thanks for your considered responses.
I know you have a difficult job to do, but please continue to do as many recent AAAs as you can.
For example, when I bought your DEHR, I had already bought it on PC at the time of original release, but never finished it due to the pain of having to go regularly into Bootcamp. When I bought your port, I spent ages on it, and finished it in a couple of weeks! The difference between playing in Mac OS X (and being able to swap in and out of Mail and other apps) compared to booting into Windows is huge.
So, please keep up the good work, and release even more ports than you are now.

 

[chuckiej]

Edwin, thanks for your considered responses.
I know you have a difficult job to do, but please continue to do as many recent AAAs as you can.
For example, when I bought your DEHR, I had already bought it on PC at the time of original release, but never finished it due to the pain of having to go regularly into Bootcamp. When I bought your port, I spent ages on it, and finished it in a couple of weeks! The difference between playing in Mac OS X (and being able to swap in and out of Mail and other apps) compared to booting into Windows is huge.
So, please keep up the good work, and release even more ports than you are now.

Totally agree. Thanks for all your work Edwin. I have titles that are worth booting to Windows (7). But I'd rather not. Or if I do boot to Windows I'd rather stay there a while. Switching back & forth is more painful than staying in Windows 7 especially with all the stupidity in Lion.

 

[edddeduck]

Edwin, thanks for your considered responses.

So, please keep up the good work, and release even more ports than you are now.

Thanks for all your work Edwin.

Thanks guys, we have a team of us working away and I am just the public face on the forums but from everyone in the company thanks for the kind words. We are all glad you guys are enjoying what we do and we hope that you guys will like what we have lined up for the rest of 2012, it should be a fun year!

Edwin

 

[macbookflasher]

so engrossing

 

[Hock]

The game weighs in at more than 15 gigabytes and does not support any of the following graphics cards: ATI X1xxx series, ATI HD2xxx series, NVIDIA 9400, NVIDIA 7xxx series, NVIDIA 320M, Intel HD3000 and Intel GMA series.

I'm thinking of buying this game, but I'm really not sure if my graphics card is different than the NVIDIA 9400. When I look on my Mac, it says that it's a NVIDIA GeForce 9400. I'm guessing it doesn't make a difference, but I must know.

 

[nishioka]

I'm thinking of buying this game, but I'm really not sure if my graphics card is different than the NVIDIA 9400. When I look on my Mac, it says that it's a NVIDIA GeForce 9400. I'm guessing it doesn't make a difference, but I must know.

They're the same thing. GeForce is NVIDIA's line of graphics chipsets that end up in consumer desktops and laptops.

 

[sonovale]

Great game, thoroughly enjoyed this on the 360 back when it came out.

Highly recommend it.

Interesting game but I am unable to enter the link you provided. Thanks

 

[edddeduck]

I'm thinking of buying this game, but I'm really not sure if my graphics card is different than the NVIDIA 9400. When I look on my Mac, it says that it's a NVIDIA GeForce 9400. I'm guessing it doesn't make a difference, but I must know.

All Nvidia cards for consumers are sold under the GeForce branding we just removed the GeForce to save space so the text does not go on forever.

Interesting game but I am unable to enter the link you provided. Thanks

You can get it on the Mac App Store here, or via digital and DVD here. You will need to have OS X Lion installed.

Edwin

 

[Hock]

Okay, so since my Graphics card is not compatible, I think I'm going to install a new one. I don't want to go spending too much money, so what would one step up from a NVIDIA 9400 on a late 2009 iMac?

 

[edddeduck]

Okay, so since my Graphics card is not compatible, I think I'm going to install a new one. I don't want to go spending too much money, so what would one step up from a NVIDIA 9400 on a late 2009 iMac?

You cannot upgrade graphics cards in an iMac. Any Mac with an AMD 4000 or better is a big step up from what you have obviously the newer the better.

Cheers,

Edwin

 

[sonovale]

As I am a game loving man I will purchase it very soon.Thanks

 

[iwb100]

What sort of settings for a 2011 21.5" iMac with 8GB RAM and the AMD HD Radeon 6770 512Mb would you suggest?

Messed around a bit last night and couldn't get a decent frame rate even with everything turned off and the resolution reduced. Then read that every time you make a change it rebuilds the level, so perhaps I'd have been better off not making so many changes then re-testing for a minute then changing....

So anyone, what sort of settings would it run with?