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My biggest problem with this—and correct me if I am wrong—but the developers of f.lux have petitioned for a while to get the app into the App Store, and repeatedly Apple denied them, only to take the premise for themselves and bake it straight into iOS.

To me, that's just downright slimy and low. I understand the whole thing about wanting to improve on the OS, but at least compensate the devs or something.

And what's worse—at least in my eyes—I'm sure whatever API that f.lux needed could have been given to decs for public access without much fuss or security issues. I use a similar app on my Android called Twilight that works quite well and I have not experienced any adverse effects in my time using it.

Just another case of Apple being a bully and enforcing that good-ol walled garden.

There is nothing slimy about this. Apple doesn't now, and has never on the past, allowed ANY developer to add an OS level feature to iOS. Build apps all day long, but the OS is out of the question. I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend. People that want to add 'features' have to go around Apple via side loading or jailbreaking. Neither of which is a good idea for the majority.
 
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Apple needs to just buy them out and call it a day, they have the money.
Why pay when you can have it for free. It's a common practice nowadays, just like welfare. Free foods, medical and housing or loot the entire store. I know it's off topic, but my point is if they can get away they'll do it and maybe pay the fine later.
 
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I should also add—I think what Apple should have done in this instance (and every other instance where they "rip off" features from devs) is that they should invite them to the campus and work with them to add those features into the appropriate OSs. They can mention the parnerships in their keynotes (e.g., "We worked with the fine people behind f.lux to add a great new feature...") and it becomes a win-win situation.

Apple gets the features they want, the devs get their work recognized and optimized for the OS, and nobody steals off of anybody else.
 
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Fanboys. Former Apple employee here, still have all iOS and Mac OS X stuff, but this notion that every company Apple takes ideas from are "whiners" has got to stop. They take ideas from smaller companies all the time and incorporate them as "features" instead of buying the company for a pittance. Apple took this idea straight up and put it into their OS, just like they've done with numerous other "features" which are really the ideas of small companies that have worked to implement them in really well done ways. I guess great artists do in fact "steal".

This isn't something exclusive to Apple. It's something EVERY SINGLE COMPANY in every single industry does, no matter the size. Small companies take features from bigger ones and implement it in their products. Google takes things from others. Everyone takes stuff from everyone.

There's nothing wrong with this. It means more features and better implementation for all of us. Why do so many think that's bad? Is it a horrid thing that others started copying Henry Ford's mass assembly lines and now we have multiple choices in cars because they can now be produced by more than 1 company?
 
What I would love to know is why that is the case with iOS. I can install f.lux just fine on my Mac with no adverse effects (granted, it's outside the App Store). I can even do run similar apps on Android, but iOS...nah. Too risky.

Most advanced operating system my ass.

There is nothing slimy about this. Apple doesn't now, and has never on the past, allowed ANY developer to add an OS level feature to iOS. Build apps all day long, but the OS is out of the question. I don't know why this is so hard to comprehend. People that want to add 'features' have to go around Apple via side loading or jailbreaking. Neither of which is a good idea for the majority.
 
Apple looks like a bunch of dicks not allowing this in the app store.
And what's wrong with that look?
It's a system-wide thing, and because of that, Apple wants control of it. I don't see what's wrong with that?
Nothing is wrong, if now something looks weird in yellow or the feature eats up more energy than necessary, Apple can fix it's own system feature instead of dealing with a third party developer.
Does f.lux have a technical requirement of 64bit processor? If not then why does apple have it?
Because they say so. Someone has to set a minimum requirement.
Apple needs to just buy them out and call it a day, they have the money.
Do you "need to buy" everything you "have the money" for?
I'm glad it's getting added in some shape or form, but the F.lux developers have been perfecting their version for many years and I would like for Apple to get some input from them to avoid another Maps fiasco.
I have to disagree. Independent developers tend to overthink features and drown their users in unnecessary preferences. Perfectionism doesn't always lead to the best result. Overall it is better to reduce options and make it just work for the average user. We're not so unique snowflakes.
This makes zero sense. Nobody was trying to clone a core OS feature. It didn't exist at all until F.lux came about. Apple is now cloning a non-OS feature and not the other way around.
It's unimportant who was first. Apple won't allow this kind of system-wide access f.lux needs to work. They didn't in the past and they won't in the future. Open letters don't matter.
There is no excuse for Apple's behavior here. It is wrong and disgusting.
Your behavior is wrong and disgusting. Apple owes you nothing.
Apple has a long storied history of "borrowing" ideas from originators, and then disallowing those originators from doing what they want to do -- on Apple platforms. Happened with Alfred. And it's happening with Flu.x now.
Must be a problem with your Mac, Alfred is running fine on all my Macs. And so does f.lux.
My advice would be to try to work with the f.lux people now to get their product in the App Store and keep them happy.
My advice is, ignore the f.lux people and make your customers happy.
With all the promotion Apple has done around HealthKit and ResearchKit over the past year, it seems it would increasingly difficult for Apple to deny them this without being hypocrites.
I don't follow?
One may be overwhelmed and may not be able to figure it out but I can, so don't try and tie my hands because it's too much for you. Handicapping the world for one's own shortcomings is misguided at best.
No people don't need to stop crapping on the ability to overwhelmingly customize the **** out of anything. It's a stupid idea which makes horrible software.
Except those devices Apple have excluded from having the feature thanks to planned obsolescence.
It's hardly planned obsolescence, if a device continues to work as it did when you bought it.
What I would love to know is why that is the case with iOS. I can install f.lux just fine on my Mac with no adverse effects (granted, it's outside the App Store).
Because iOS is a mobile OS with much tighter battery constraints and lower CPU performance than a desktop OS, like OS X. If there wasn't a huge difference, Apple wouldn't have created two different OSes in the first place.
 
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How about Apple just buys f.lux and lets them do all the science sleepy stuff they want to night shift mode. I think in this situation everyone wins. But its too good to be a true thing :(.
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Exactly what I'm thinking!

What would they be buying? All of the science was not done by F.lux. It was countless researchers, doctors, scientists, etc and is all public domain. They are all listed on their website. All F.lux has done implement that research into an OS extension that they give away for free. They don't have squat for IP, and their pending patents are dubious at best. It doesn't take a rocket scientist adjust display calibration. I'd wager Apple probably has some of the best display folks on he planet.
 
Apple can do whatever it wants. I don't think Apple ever promised anyone the AppStore would be fair, and Apple has routinely denied apps for features implemented in the OS later. They can do this, but I think it's wrongheaded in this case, and a bit harmful to Apple in the long term.

First, f.lux isn't asking for root access. All Apple has to do is open up one interface command that allows apps to adjust hue, and to run in the background. Just like Spotify playing music in the background all day long doesn't require root access, just like Facebook pulling updates in the background doesn't require root access, just like Flickr auto-uploading photos soon after I take them automatically doesn't require root access.
The problem is not doing stuff in the background. Apps can upload stuff in the background but they have a time limit, apps can play music in the background but it won't affect the sounds of the game you are playing because the foreground app will always override any background sound if it wants to play sounds.

The problem is doing things in the background constantly (which the user does not notice like he or she would do with music playing) and that affect the output of other apps (ie, how colours are displayed).

Furthermore, hue adjustment can be added to the list of security privileges in iOS. Just like users have to approve apps access to location or photos or address book or whatever, they would approve access to "night shift".
Sure, but to give third-party apps access to Night Shift, Apple first has to create Night Shift (which it is doing with iOS 9.3). And at that point, you would have a third-party app offering a different UI for a system setting, which is generally a bit of a hack (like, eg, third-party apps being allowed to change the display resolution on OS X). And there is a big difference between read and write access (location, photos, address book are largely read access only, eg, while you can add photos you cannot delete photos via third-party apps). Getting read access to data is quite different than altering the (screen) output of other apps.

Second, f.lux is clearly interested in developing this feature to a more advanced and complicated level than simple sun-rise to sun-set schedule, with a constant hue adjustment. They want access to the part of the iOS user-base that is ready and willing to use their app in order to take this idea to the next level. Just spitballing here: Maybe they can use the front-facing camera and light-sensor to detect the kind of lighting in your room and automatically adjust the hue dynamically? Maybe they can automatically determine your sleep schedule from your usage pattern and set the hue-adjustment schedule that way? Maybe they have much better ideas? Either way, I don't see how it harms users nor Apple to let them do this.
Sure, those might be good ideas, but can you give me one precedent where a third-party app is allowed to change system settings on iOS?
And there is the simple rule that what you do in one app should never break how things work in another app. That is the foundation for the general populace being able to install anything they want without having to fear anything happening outside the (besides using resources like bandwith, disk space or energy).

Why not let them make a ResearchKit app or something to let them experiment on willing users, just like Apple touts in their ads? Worst-case scenario, it's a waste of time. Best-case scenario is f.lux discovers something good. They can't brag about how much potential there is for scientific and medical research there is on iOS, and then in the same breath deny access to a legitimate and popular company doing research in a medical area for no good reason.
That could be a good idea but I don't think that is what f.lux wants. If they wanted this, they could have plainly said so.

Finally, Apple has this bad habbit of cutting out apps while implementing the same feature. They are totally within their right to do so, but doing so always erodes developer confidence just a bit, and doing so always spends a little bit of Apple's hard-earned good will. I don't think it's worth it.
Sorry, that is a side-effect of reality. You simply cannot prevent OS makers from adding features. That's like disallowing companies to fire people, that is not how a market economy works.
 
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Fanboys. Former Apple employee here, still have all iOS and Mac OS X stuff, but this notion that every company Apple takes ideas from are "whiners" has got to stop. They take ideas from smaller companies all the time and incorporate them as "features" instead of buying the company for a pittance. Apple took this idea straight up and put it into their OS, just like they've done with numerous other "features" which are really the ideas of small companies that have worked to implement them in really well done ways. I guess great artists do in fact "steal".

Reducing blue light spectrum was not an original idea developed by f.lux.
 
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Apple is scum. Pretty much the new Microsoft.
Sorry this was a feature not a product. And not something invented by f.lux. They had to know that at some point Apple would make this a system level feature.
 
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What would they be buying? All of the science was not done by F.lux. It was countless researchers, doctors, scientists, etc and is all public domain. They are all listed on their website. All F.lux has done implement that research into an OS extension that they give away for free. They don't have squat for IP, and their pending patents are dubious at best. It doesn't take a rocket scientist adjust display calibration. I'd wager Apple probably has some of the best display folks on he planet.
They're buying the people who actually care enough to implement it.
 
And what's worse—at least in my eyes—I'm sure whatever API that f.lux needed could have been given to decs for public access without much fuss or security issues. I use a similar app on my Android called Twilight that works quite well and I have not experienced any adverse effects in my time using it.

Just another case of Apple being a bully and enforcing that good-ol walled garden.
It's another case of Apple behaving consistently and logically: enforcing their walled garden because if they wouldn't enforce it, it wouldn't be a walled garden, wouldn't it? If Apple wants to ensure that no app can negatively influence the behaviour of other apps (or the OS itself), which is a fundamental premise of the App Store concept, than it cannot allow apps that have the potential to do exactly that.

People have a choice between iOS and Android if they don't like this App Store principle. Wishing that Apple makes iOS behave exactly like Android, is a rather pointless exercise.
 
Apple has taken 3rd party software and incorporated it in all its OS'es for decades. Hence the term "sherlocked" after they incorporated nearly all of the Sherlock features into OSX. They even did it with my software Auganizer by copying it into Logic Pro, and it was my lively hood at the time.

I'm pretty sure Sherlock was an Apple feature that ultimately gave way to Spotlight. Was there a third-party predecessor that Apple stole the idea and the name from?
 
They're buying the people who actually care enough to implement it.
But then does Apple need to buy any other company that makes anything that is similar to what they make? They make Pages and Numbers and Keynote so should they have to buy Microsoft because they have Office? They make a PDF viewer so should they need to buy Adobe that has Actobat? They make a text editor or a media player so should they buy other companies that make similar software?
 
Here is another thing for the uninformed whiners.... Go check out Redshift. It came out 6 years ago (about 8 months after F.lux came out), does the same exact thing F.lux does, and is open source.
 
No, but it was f.lux developers who first integrated that tech into OS X and tried do so on iOS. Cut the crap.

Are you on Apple's payroll?
And someone created a word processor application first at some point, but that doesn't mean that others couldn't create their own, right?
 
I like it better when integrated into the OS, but Apple should have paid f.lux some money or bought out their company.

This is getting close to the situation where the big car companies implemented the windshield wiper design that a small time inventor created without compensating him.

This is not the first or last time. Do you remember wher Dashboard came from?
 
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But then does Apple need to buy any other company that makes anything that is similar to what they make? They make Pages and Numbers and Keynote so should they have to buy Microsoft because they have Office? They make a PDF viewer so should they need to buy Adobe that has Actobat? They make a text editor or a media player so should they buy other companies that make similar software?
No. Your looking at it too narrow minded. The guys over at F.lux seem to really have a passion for this. They really get it, and the Mac app is far better than the iOS Night Shift. So I feel that if Apple bought F.lux they would be able to make Night Shift absolute outstanding for both iOS and Mac in a way that Apple themselves just never will.
 
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Stalinism a system-wide thing, and because of that, Stalin wants control of it. I don't see what's wrong with that?
Nothing is wrong with that, because Stalin has control of it, everything works as Stalin intended it and customers get the true experience. If you don't like Stalinism, buy something else. But if you like it, Stalin made sure you'll get the most Stalin out of your Stalinism. As you should, since that is what you wanted.
 
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