That. A huge number of the UI features, we already take for granted on iOS, started as Cydia tweaks.
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Developers Behind F.lux Call on Apple to Allow F.lux App for iOS Devices
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This is of course good for consumers as long as the "Official Version" is at least as good, if not better than the version that inspired the official version.
If it's a simplified and poor implimentation, then you get left with the better item blocked and a worse item in use.
Hardly great
First thing: Is this true about the blue light? Does it really help to use F.Lux?
second: Apple implementing other people's software as their own is no new thing. Ages ago, there was a company who build a software called Watson and Apple copied it and called it Sherlock. Thats AFAIK.
second: Apple implementing other people's software as their own is no new thing. Ages ago, there was a company who build a software called Watson and Apple copied it and called it Sherlock. Thats AFAIK.
Using F.lux for years but it doesn't work properly on El Capitan. When playing embedded videos, I get a lot of artifacts.
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While it's true dat it's a good thing it's incorporated in iOS, I can't help but feel that the makers of F.lux have been bypassed. Also, Apple traditionally provides the basic features and gives room to third parties for more advanced features. So, F.lux should be allowed to have their app as well.
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While it's true dat it's a good thing it's incorporated in iOS, I can't help but feel that the makers of F.lux have been bypassed. Also, Apple traditionally provides the basic features and gives room to third parties for more advanced features. So, F.lux should be allowed to have their app as well.
What do they want, a medal? Big deal. It's not as if those API's were available and they were denied. Theymact like it's owed to them.
On mac, f.lux provides an extra option to change the color temperature settings on the basis of apps. For instance, while running Quicktime one can disable f.lux. To do the same in iOS would require f.lux to know what apps are running and track them. Its against iOS privacy policy. Soon the same feature will come on OSX too.
Got to agree with you there. At first I was upset about Apple stealing the idea but Apple don't want people Jailbreaking in the first place. So the moral of the story is don't create apps that require Jailbreaking or side loading. If it can't get approved in the Apple Store protect your ideas. You're just giving away your hard work to a multi billion dollar company with not one cent to show for it.
The original authors must feel butthurt.
I'm positive that using F.lux has helped me. I do quite a bit of nighttime work on my MacBook Air. Prior to installing F.lux, I would often wake up in the middle of the night with a terrible headache. Nowadays, I rarely suffer such headaches.
It doesn't have the ability to turn your screen more blue. What likely happened is you had become used to the warmer tint (orange) and therefore when flux was turned off it appeared much more blue. That is what happens when you go back to the "normal" screen tint after having been used to the warmer flux tint. The options are chosen from a sliding bar; all the way to the left is "off" with no tint, then sliding to the right increases the warm tint (furthest to the right is the most orange).
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I happen to disagree with that. I use flux on my rMBP and when plugged into my TV via HDMI (which I do at least 4x a week) I love how the external display (the TV) also has the flux tint, because TV is one of the worst offenders of all the negatives blue light exposure has. I tend to enjoy my TV shows much more without the intense blue light. That is actually what made me really notice the effects that such an app like flux could have.
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Apps don't tell you why they need permission though; the vast majority of people will just press allow for everything. You never know what kind of features will be broken if you don't, and thus people don't second guess "allowing".
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It uses private APIs. Anyone with a dev account knows the rule against private APIs. I'm not sure why this is a big deal.
You've been sherlock'd.
F.lux enjoyed a good run, but this function is just too basic and begs for native implementation.
The question you should ask yourself when creating an obvious utility function or app is how long before it appears natively?
It would be great if it communicates with Homekit/Philips Hue.
They want Apple to make these API’s public, that’s what this is about.
But the problem with a function like this is that it affects the device itself. If they allow apps to change the temperature within themselves, then it would have to change constantly as the user switches between apps. If it is system-wide then you get the problem of applications potentially competing for the same function. It just is not as straightforward when you consider how iOS is currently set up, namely a strict separation between system and application functions and isolated applications that cannot interfere with each other. This presents a more philosophical problem for Apple in the way iOS is conceptualised.
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F.lux is incredible man. Especially for watching Netflix at night. Sounds weird, but my eyes feel better
I ought to stop buying Apple products based on principle alone. Talk about a dictatorship. I thought we had a free market. Shame on Apple.
Honestly I think if Apple would allow these functional 3rd party tools to be installed by users, it would go a long way with improving their image, and overall functionality. In addition, potential developers for home kit, health kit, and other services may be more likely to support / develop for iOS than there would have been previously.
There are many other items I would love to see added to iOS. It was awesome when they started allowing 3rd party keyboards, extensions for Safari, as well as more hardware support. Lets hope they continue to open the system up while continuing to maintain their corporate requirements for security and data protection.
I seriously hope plugin support for Springboard is on the horizon. I love my application layout, but wouldn't mind some more functionality in my home screen.
There are many other items I would love to see added to iOS. It was awesome when they started allowing 3rd party keyboards, extensions for Safari, as well as more hardware support. Lets hope they continue to open the system up while continuing to maintain their corporate requirements for security and data protection.
I seriously hope plugin support for Springboard is on the horizon. I love my application layout, but wouldn't mind some more functionality in my home screen.
Why?
Apple has had these set of rules in place since the birth of the iPhone, developers like F.Lux know the limits of what they can do. They are just calling out for attention now.
Apple is not going to create an exception for them. Theres a reason some API's are private.
If anything these guys should ask Apple to hire them to perfect Night Shift.
I'm pretty sure the issue for f.lux being removed wasn't them telling people to install - it was that their "container" app could download and execute an arbitrary IPA file. The reason being is that the f.lux source code is not open source, so they didn't want to distribute that. Instead the container is able to execute arbitrary IPA files, meaning that some could use it to pirate apps.
I get what you are saying from an ethical point of view, but from apple's perspective there is little point in acquiring what is a relatively easily-developed feature that could be replicated in-house. Unless flux had some kind of patent, they are probably not worth spending money on.
That's just not true. Even my wife, maybe the least tech savvy person on the earth, ask me what to allow and what not to allow on her iPhone.
And people just pressing allow without second guessing, well, they deserve security breaches...