Chances are Apple already put a dollar figure of $500 credit and with negotiable lowballed it’s a normal practise. Don’t tell me you have been accepting the first offer throughout your life. 🤦♂️
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Developers Start Receiving $500 Credits for Returning DTK Mac Minis
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What I am saying is that the product may have been flawed and rather than support it and with official AppleSilicon hardware available, Apple decided it wants it back as it’s not worth the cost and effort to continue supporting a flawed product when something stable exists that has its official support channel.
Please don't tell me you think lowballing developers is a great idea when Apple is already trying to repair their image from many recent developer incidents (not to mention being in hot water with lawmakers over developer issues). Any $ number put on Apple "listening to developers after lowballing" does not outweigh the benefits of the scenario in which Apple offered $500 upfront to developers. 🤦♂️
Besides, if what you say is true and they are infact doing "lowballing strategy", they would have done it with the recent royalty cuts from 30% to 15%. Why didn't they lowball at 25% first, wait for developers to be outraged, then lower to 15%? Because that would be an incredibly stupid thing to do.
I feel like you're just going to cling onto that idea no matter what, so it doesn't make sense to continue this conversation. 👋
Ask yourself this, Apple reduced the AppStore commission from 30% to 15% for developers with revenue of a million or less, what sparked this intervention maybe the Anti-Trust inquiry. Why was Apple not compelled to do this prior to the inquiry?
How did Apple even come up with the initial dollar figure of $200, why not $0 or somewhere in between why not somewhere between $200-$500+?
Apple may or may not have been anticipating a few developers being vocal and decided to match a $500 payment with a $500 credit. If Apple was generous and appreciative enough it would have matched that $500 from the start vice anticipating any possible backlash. Had Apple offered a $500 (or more) credit from the start developers would have sung their praise and those that would have been seeking more would have been deemed unreasonable.
Developers have to spend that $500 credit at the AppleStore/AppStore and Apple will still receive direct compensation with profit or indirect with a commission.
So please tell me how Apple is the looser in this deal. It’s probably not even costing them $500 as once the commissions are removed it’s probably in the neighbourhood of $300-350 out of pocket and even that is being generous.
for me apple have no choice
1. apple store in macos is sooo low, forcing universal application making more apps available.
2. 30% to 15% encourage more developer but still not much player since their language dam hard to write and documentation pretty bad.
** epic fiasco also the main major for this.
3. asking "developer" to test and paid unknown device which in 1 year is short . At least 2 or 3 year testing then publish the m1 is the right way. Thanks god i dont paid this rental thing.
i dont know what you're trying to say or how this relates to lowballing developers.
pure simple - developer don't like to test thing. They just want stable thing product/api to develop. That's the main point of dtk . If apple hoping to lure developer to try arm in one month , two month 1 year is absurd. 200 or 500 mean nothing to it but paying in short term and ask to return back is crazy.
Apple announces App Store Small Business Program
New developer program accelerates innovation and helps small businesses and independent developers propel their businesses forward on the App Store.
www.apple.com
If Apple wanted to appease regulators, it would make more sense to lower their commission to 15% for everyone, not just those earning below $1 million. Especially when you consider that the people pushing said lawsuits are easily earning way over that amount.
Apple is likely telling the truth when it says the new small business program is connected to the pandemic.
DTK terms said Apple does not guarantee the product would work. In uppercase letters:
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It's no different than an Ebay listing saying "buy at your own risk".
If you don't like the terms, don't buy it. Very simple.
not simple , apple itself need to improve their quality ansurance before even release the dtk or publish update .
It's like to me, apple want controvesy itself to be rumor.
To proper way is to authorised some good publisher and provide it(dtk) without any fee and work around at least 2 year stable then publish the real device . So sign non disclosure agrement between both party and never low ball "developer" which contribute to their eco system.
Indie developer like me would buy it but not available or mostly dont have time to test it out.
The conclusion is Apple make mistake itself and scare if some non real developer like youtuber , scalper to test it out and sell to the market as rare item. Normal developer would return it because scare would be ban by apple.
I suspect regulators maybe in favour of a tiered commission similar to income taxes. I feel this should have happened years ago if not from the start to stimulate the quality of apps. For example Apple under the late Steve Jobs’ vision was to offer as many free but quality apps to its customers and while doing so would charge no commission (with exception of developer fee) on those apps. What we received were many free apps some good many questionable (fart apps) and then rising from $0.99 and up.Apple announces App Store Small Business Program
New developer program accelerates innovation and helps small businesses and independent developers propel their businesses forward on the App Store.www.apple.com
If Apple wanted to appease regulators, it would make more sense to lower their commission to 15% for everyone, not just those earning below $1 million. Especially when you consider that the people pushing said lawsuits are easily earning way over that amount.
Apple is likely telling the truth when it says the new small business program is connected to the pandemic.
We are unable to predict what would have happened had Apple incorporated a tiered commission from the start or shortly after the AppStore’s introduction as the focus was to promote it with as many titles as possible to stimulate hardware sales and iOS market penetration.
I suspect Apple should offer more tiers as we have 0% for free apps, 15% for up to a million (up to a year) and 30% for anything above. Maybe it’s possible to offer 0%, 5%, 10%, 15%, etc up to 30%.
Small business have always had to struggle to be profitable even prior to the pandemic and it has only expedited the strains further. If it was really for the small business it would have been done years ago and not some awakening moment of the pandemic.
Apple can actually come out of this whole inquiry and a market example for the AppStore as a shiny penny. How does it do this, well it has its AppleCredit Card, how about offer loans to small developers as it has all they statistical data to see if they can be profitable and sustainable, use the tiered commission system and negotiate an interest rate accordingly. Remember Apple can revolutionize this model, help out small and medium developers, be even more profitable and come out as a prime example while proving to the Senate that it is willing and able to make changes.
I predict if Apple does take this approach other competitors such as Google, Amazon, Fb will copy it to. Think of it as AppleBank.
No they don't. DTK was never meant to be production hardware.
There are 28 million Apple registered developers. Can't give everyone a DTK.
Then don't participate in the DTK program. It's not for you.
yeah , the point of view weird.
. Okay i'm as usual indie typing code now 😎. No point to argue it since i allready bought m1 to play and test it.I think what I said is perfectly reasonable. But ok. We're done then.yeah , the point of view weird.
Mine was received on the same day (3/5/21) and I've gotten the credit as of last Friday. You might want to see if you can contact someone to see if there is an issue. An extra week seems like a long time difference.
Edit: One thing to note, Apple doesn't send a confirmation, you need to go the website to see your credit: https://developer.apple.com/programs/universal/return/