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Dictionary in Leopard, wikipedia support.

bubblegum80 said:
Dictionaries, and reference books are updated regularly throughout the year.

I would love to see you "debate" the Wikipedia with your university professor. The professors at the university I attend, made it clear that we would be removed from their class, if we use the Wikipedia for research.
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I believe jsw is on the same side as you (against Wikipedia) like many others.
 
bubblegum80 said:
Dictionaries, and reference books are updated regularly throughout the year.

I would love to see you "debate" the Wikipedia with your university professor. The professors at the university I attend, made it clear that we would be removed from their class, if we use the Wikipedia for research.
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Solutions:
1. Don't use wikipedia as a source of research, either within OS X or without
2. Er ... that's it.

Now that's sorted can you please go away.
 
phungy said:
I believe jsw is on the same side as you (against Wikipedia) like many others.
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I could be wrong, but I took his post regarding the Wikipedia as sarcasm.

I believe some nations such as Japan, and Germany are taking a stand with the Wikipedia, and are making sure their version of the site is accurate.

I know the Japanese version is mostly saved from many of the flaws of the English version.

stuartmingay said:
Solutions:
1. Don't use wikipedia as a source of research, either within OS X or without
2. Er ... that's it.

Now that's sorted can you please go away.
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Solutions:

1. Don't view my threads, or read my posts if you don't like them.
2. Er... that's it.
 
bubblegum80 said:
Dictionaries, and reference books are updated regularly throughout the year.

I would love to see you "debate" the Wikipedia with your university professor. The professors at the university I attend, made it clear that we would be removed from their class, if we use the Wikipedia for research.
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Wow, that's stunningly archaic of them. Do they force you to provide CVs and background checks of all the authors of all the sources you quote to help ensure their accuracy, or do they just hate Wikipedia for its convenience? I find that it can often provide excellent links to other sites.
phungy said:
I believe jsw is on the same side as you (against Wikipedia) like many others.
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Actually, no. I think any source is potentially suspect, so one should use a few different ones for any real research.

However, the vast majority of the items on Wikipedia are sufficiently correct for it to serve as an excellent first site for many inquiries. But, yes, it's not a good final site for any important work.
 
bubblegum80 said:
Solutions:

1. Don't view my threads, or read my posts if you don't like them.
2. Er... that's it.
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Good point, although adding you to my ignore list seems a bit of a waste of effort as you only joined today, seemingly with the sole purpose of posting thread as barmy as this.

"Keeping an eye on OS 10.5"? Given up on an iMac? Hmmm ... just go please.
 
bubblegum80 said:
I could be wrong, but I took his post regarding the Wikipedia as sarcasm.

I believe some nations such as Japan, and Germany are taking a stand with the Wikipedia, and are making sure their version of the site is accurate.

I know the Japanese version is mostly saved from many of the flaws of the English version.
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jsw said:
Wow, that's stunningly archaic of them. Do they force you to provide CVs and background checks of all the authors of all the sources you quote to help ensure their accuracy, or do they just hate Wikipedia for its convenience? I find that it can often provide excellent links to other sites.
Actually, no. I think any source is potentially suspect, so one should use a few different ones for any real research.

However, the vast majority of the items on Wikipedia are sufficiently correct for it to serve as an excellent first site for many inquiries. But, yes, it's not a good final site for any important work.
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Whoops, I should have known...darn you jsw! :p

I'm bad at detecting sarcasm on teh intarweb :(
 
jsw said:
Wow, that's stunningly archaic of them. Do they force you to provide CVs and background checks of all the authors of all the sources you quote to help ensure their accuracy, or do they just hate Wikipedia for its convenience? I find that it can often provide excellent links to other sites.
Actually, no. I think any source is potentially suspect, so one should use a few different ones for any real research.

However, the vast majority of the items on Wikipedia are sufficiently correct for it to serve as an excellent first site for many inquiries. But, yes, it's not a good final site for any important work.
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Yes they require you to provide sources. Any respectable university requires you to do that.

Some articles on the Wikipedia are good. However many articles are rife with utter nonsense, fandom, zealotry, ect. It is just a forum, it is not a reliable encyclopedia.

It should not be in Leopards dictionary!
 
stuartmingay said:
Good point, although adding you to my ignore list seems a bit of a waste of effort as you only joined today, seemingly with the sole purpose of posting thread as barmy as this.

"Keeping an eye on OS 10.5"? Given up on an iMac? Hmmm ... just go please.
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You joined this website in 2002, and have only posted 21 times. Many of those posts happen to be in my thread... :rolleyes:
 
And I can understand you not liking Wikipedia because it might come off as somewhat biased when speaking on touchy subjects such as politics or abortion, but really, what encyclopedia doesn't?

It's insanely useful for a huge number of subjects. For example, what if you want to know what the best selling record in 1984 was? Who won the Nobel Peace prize in 1956? What year did the Pittsburgh Penguins enter the National Hockey League? In my opinion, for answering quick trivia type questions such as those, Wikipedia is absolutely unrivaled at the moment. Plus, you get a quick link to another web page that cites where they obtained that info.

Really, you come off as completely irrational and out of touch with reality to be so outraged over Apple including Wikipedia support in Leopard.

bubblegum80 said:
They could add support for the urbandictionary too! :rolleyes:
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It would be nice to have good plugin support...at least some people would enjoy an urbandictionary plugin (it really is useful sometimes!)

While Wikipedia is not perfect by any stretch, it is a fantastic resource for those of us who need info in one place on slightly obscure subjects...
 
bubblegum80 said:
You joined this website in 2002, and have only posted 21 times. Many of those posts happen to be in my thread... :rolleyes:
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You are Ernie Wise and I claim my five pounds (possible UK-only sarcasm).

Yes, because the info on this site is generally reliable, and people's opinions, up until yours just now, have been constructive.

Well done. Your banality has caused me to increase my post count. Have a cigar.
 
Gherkin said:
And I can understand you not liking Wikipedia because it might come off as somewhat biased when speaking on touchy subjects such as politics or abortion, but really, what encyclopedia doesn't?

It's insanely useful for a huge number of subjects. For example, what if you want to know what the best selling record in 1984 was? Who won the Nobel Peace prize in 1956? What year did the Pittsburgh Penguins enter the National Hockey League? In my opinion, for answering quick trivia type questions such as those, Wikipedia is absolutely unrivaled at the moment. Plus, you get a quick link to another web page that cites where they obtained that info.

Really, you come off as completely irrational and out of touch with reality to be so outraged over Apple including Wikipedia support in Leopard.
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You can find any of that information quickly, and easily via a search engine like google. In fact, I found it less than a minute.

Yes, maybe I am irrational to care about people having access to reliable and respected resources for their information, especially within a dictionary reference on a operating system.

I'm now a reversed Apple zealot, and hope they tank. :mad:

I certainly won't recommend a "Mac" to anyone again.
 
bubblegum80 said:
Yes, maybe I am irrational to care about people having access to reliable and respected resources for their information, especially within a dictionary reference on a operating system.

I'm now a reversed Apple zealot, and hope they tank. :mad:

I certainly won't recommend a "Mac" to anyone again.
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You are aware that important facts on Wikipedia are referenced to their sources? At that it contains fewer errors per 1000 words than the Encyclopedia Britannica? And that if your information is so easy to find, then it won't matter about the OS X dictionary?

But of course, you go ahead. Be an anti-fanboi. Because of wikipedia.

"Don't get a Mac!"
"Why not?"
"Because i hate wikipedia!"
 
bubblegum80 said:
You can find any of that information quickly, and easily via a search engine like google. In fact, I found it less than a minute.

Yes, maybe I am irrational to care about people having access to reliable and respected resources for their information, especially within a dictionary reference on a operating system.

I'm now a reversed Apple zealot, and hope they tank. :mad:

I certainly won't recommend a "Mac" to anyone again.
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and you'll be able to find it faster with leopard. :rolleyes:

anyways. if you hate apple then why are you still posting here? unless you're just going to troll around...
 
psychofreak said:
It would be nice to have good plugin support...at least some people would enjoy an urbandictionary plugin (it really is useful sometimes!)

While Wikipedia is not perfect by any stretch, it is a fantastic resource for those of us who need info in one place on slightly obscure subjects...
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Widget, for those that are interested. It is certainly something that should never be officially supported within the OS, especially after the many Japanese related things I have seen in the urbandictionary. Ditto for the Wikipedia.
 
Much Ado said:
You are aware that important facts on Wikipedia are referenced to their sources? At that it contains fewer errors per 1000 words than the Encyclopedia Britannica? And that if your information is so easy to find, then it won't matter about the OS X dictionary?

But of course, you go ahead. Be an anti-fanboi. Because of wikipedia.

"Don't get a Mac!"
"Why not?"
"Because i hate wikipedia!"
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Its not the "major" subjects I'm talking about. Its the small things, especially relating to foreign cultures. Japanese or French bands as an example. In fact, there is enough trouble relating to articles for bands from England and the United States on the Wikipedia too. Among many other "smaller" subjects.

PlaceofDis said:
and you'll be able to find it faster with leopard. :rolleyes:

anyways. if you hate apple then why are you still posting here? unless you're just going to troll around...
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I have the right to voice my opinion, be upset, and reply to comments.

It is not trolling.
 
bubblegum80 said:
Dictionaries, and reference books are updated regularly throughout the year.

I would love to see you "debate" the Wikipedia with your university professor. The professors at the university I attend, made it clear that we would be removed from their class, if we use the Wikipedia for research.
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Well, have your dictionary then. As for your urban dictionary argument, urbandictionary is not really meant to be a serious site, wikipedia is. God forbid that apple provide us with a wonderful resource with a better UI. The horror. I think I'll chuck out my iMac right now.
 
OK. Number one, the official dictionary in OS X Tiger is Oxford.

Next, I think that dropping Leopard for adding a popular web service to a program is absurd. Just because you may not agree with Wikipedia and its offerings does not mean that it automatically poisons the rest of the operating system. For some people (such as myself), Wikipedia is a welcome addition to the app because I and others use it frequently for reports, etc.

Honestly, just suck it up, Apple always goes where the trends are. People love YouTube so they put it on the iPhone/iPod Touch, they changed the colors of the new Nano's to be more stylish, and they added Wikipedia because it is a powerful research tool that is used by many people. I'm pretty sure this isn't the apocalypse.
 
jsw said:
The reason I'm not going to Leopard is Time Machine.

I mean, say what you will about Wikipedia - it's a community driven site, and some things will be wrong while most others are right. But still, yes, agreed, it's a terrible idea to include access to a site which might provide updated information when, as we all know, dictionaries should be static and unchanging.

But Apple really burns my butt calling that feature "Time Machine". I mean, there's absolutely no time travel involved whatsoever, and so I think it's deceptive advertising. I feel terrible for the people lined up tomorrow expecting wonders for $129 and being terribly disappointed when they open the box. I especially feel bad for the children and seniors, who are so often the target of this sort of marketing exploitation.
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Is it cool if I state that I may actually love you, jsw? :D

I can't understand your problem with Wikipedia, if I search for 'Superchargers' it tell me how one works... This happens with most things, how can I loose?

Hmmmm... It really does have everything...
 
Markleshark said:
Is it cool if I state that I may actually love you, jsw? :D

I can't understand your problem with Wikipedia, if I search for 'Superchargers' it tell me how one works... This happens with most things, how can I loose?

Hmmmm... It really does have everything...
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I clearly stated my own opinion, and accepted other peoples. Saying I feel they should not include a site, which can be edited by anyone as an educational reference.
 
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