Did Anybody Go From iPhone 4S To Any Blackberry Series?

[scaredpoet]

That has nothing to do with the devices, rather the back end. Clearly he has incompetent IT people who have no clue what they are doing.

That's an awful quick judgement to make, all in the name of blindly defending a beleaguered platform.

There are simply certain infrastructures where BES works very well, and others where it doesn't. That doesn't meant that the IT staff is incompetent. It just means that decisions were made because certain other features outweighed the need to have to put up with a rather finicky platform.

Where I work it's a similar story. We've managed to get Blackberries to work, with the addition of a very expensive add-on. But it's become less and less justifiable to have that added continuing expense when fewer and fewer of our employees are using Blackberries.

 

[ashman70]

That's an awful quick judgement to make, all in the name of blindly defending a beleaguered platform.

There are simply certain infrastructures where BES works very well, and others where it doesn't. That doesn't meant that the IT staff is incompetent. It just means that decisions were made because certain other features outweighed the need to have to put up with a rather finicky platform.

Where I work it's a similar story. We've managed to get Blackberries to work, with the addition of a very expensive add-on. But it's become less and less justifiable to have that added continuing expense when fewer and fewer of our employees are using Blackberries.

Its no more of a quick judgement to make the the original poster. I work in the IT industry, I have deployed BES solutions, I am very familiar with what works and what doesn't, what you describe at your place of work is the exception, not the rule.

 

[Tinmania]

Its just saying that RIM has not done a good enough job of letting the public know what OS7 can do.

The public doesn't care.

RIM is like the cartoon character that has run off a cliff without realizing it. As soon as it looks down.... wooooooosh.




Michael

 

[xorjo]

There's a lot fanboyism and ignorance in this thread... So many here have never even used a BB and are bashing it...

I was a blackberry user until I went with the iphone. The ONLY reason I stick to the iphone is for the APPS, that's it. Andriod phones all look the same, cheap plastic with huge screens, no buttons, basically a cheap imitation of an iphone 3g. However, Blackberries are very solidly built. I'm talking about the Bold series or even the Curve. They kept their signature keyboard (with most reviews calling it the best in any smart phone). Excellent battery life, best email/messaging. Best of all, Blackberries look very unique, you can spot one from anywhere, whereas now and days everything looks like an iphone (not apple's fault).

It's a shame the blackberry appworld has garbage apps, and overpriced for simple apps. I can get a free metronome app in the appstore for free, or choose from over a 100 at 2 bucks or less, when I had a blackberry, the cheapest one was 10 bucks, and I think I had one or two to choose form... that's just an example.

If you don't care about apps (only the crucial ones like facebook, twitter, etc), then I see blackberry as a perfectly good choice. It feels very premium, excellent keyboard. It is a little complicated for the average person, it does have a higher learning curve. Thats the main problem with RIM, they make their phones for blackberry users and they haven't released an OS suitable for those who never had blackberries. They're not consumer friendly whereas any idiot can pick up an iphone and know it all in a few days.

 

[iSayuSay]

There's a lot fanboyism and ignorance in this thread... So many here have never even used a BB and are bashing it...

Best of all, Blackberries look very unique, you can spot one from anywhere, whereas now and days everything looks like an iphone (not apple's fault).
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They're not consumer friendly whereas any idiot can pick up an iphone and know it all in a few days.

So contrary. I sometimes visit family in Indonesia, and most people there using Blackberry, it's almost 99% I guess, especially in major cities. So, I dont think BB is unique with each model, I cant really tell which Bb is which model, they all just look generic. Not to mention BB have so dull looking OS despite being updated and promised so many things.

If you say BB is unique .. Well yeah I can spot BB logo from faraway, but so does cheap Nokia. But I cant really differ one Bb to the other, maybe one is bit curvy, the other is a bit edgy.. So much effort to just tell the difference.

And iPhone is actually very very easy to use, intuitive and instant. You can see many children or even toddler toying up with iPod Touch or even iPad, just because it's easy and work seamlessly as human would think.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

There's a lot fanboyism and ignorance in this thread... So many here have never even used a BB and are bashing it...

I was a blackberry user until I went with the iphone. The ONLY reason I stick to the iphone is for the APPS, that's it. Andriod phones all look the same, cheap plastic with huge screens, no buttons, basically a cheap imitation of an iphone 3g. However, Blackberries are very solidly built. I'm talking about the Bold series or even the Curve. They kept their signature keyboard (with most reviews calling it the best in any smart phone). Excellent battery life, best email/messaging. Best of all, Blackberries look very unique, you can spot one from anywhere, whereas now and days everything looks like an iphone (not apple's fault).

It's a shame the blackberry appworld has garbage apps, and overpriced for simple apps. I can get a free metronome app in the appstore for free, or choose from over a 100 at 2 bucks or less, when I had a blackberry, the cheapest one was 10 bucks, and I think I had one or two to choose form... that's just an example.

If you don't care about apps (only the crucial ones like facebook, twitter, etc), then I see blackberry as a perfectly good choice. It feels very premium, excellent keyboard. It is a little complicated for the average person, it does have a higher learning curve. Thats the main problem with RIM, they make their phones for blackberry users and they haven't released an OS suitable for those who never had blackberries. They're not consumer friendly whereas any idiot can pick up an iphone and know it all in a few days.

That's exactly why they are going with QNX.

 

[Tinmania]

There's a lot fanboyism and ignorance in this thread... So many here have never even used a BB and are bashing it...

Yea ignorance indeed. From those who don't see the handwriting on the wall.

I had no choice but to use a BB for 2 years. And that is really the BB story in a nutshell: most people got them assigned to them and did not buy them on their own.

Four years ago it was safe: enterprise was not about to support iOS and later Android. Times have changed and now users are demanding other smart phones. And they are getting them. IT is having to adapt. The widely publicized outages helped. IT is not there to be served by the employees of a company. It's the other way around.

Enough with the keyboard crap. It's not that great and you are stuck with it 24/7 and it takes away from screen real estate. I can type just as fast on my iPhone as I could on my BB--or for that matter on my Treo before that.




Michael

 

[SurferMan]

No way would I leave either Android or Apple for BB... OS just feels so clumsy compared to the latter 2 and limited compared to how I can setup my SG2 exactly how I want and nevermind the full google/other apps integration. Keyboard doesn't mean anything to me as I can type way faster on iPhone or Android (especially with Swype) then the BB physical keyboards, and business email setup means nothing to me again as I've never had a problem setting up email exchange for my own businesses for employee's.

My gf has a new Bold from her work, their switching everyone to iPhones but they ran out and she got stuck with a new Bold. Sucks imo, battery life is good and that's about it. My primary phone is my i777 SG2 and it get's me through a day easily of heavy use, that's all I care about as their going to be charged daily anyway. I've had other clients whom have switched their corporate accounts to ordering new iPhones or Android devices vs extending their RIM contracts.

RIM needs to completely revamp their businesses model and image or else their going to be relegated to "corporate" only use in which their already dwindling and losing market share there and that was the one area they used to dominate. I had friends and family whom used to have BB's for personal use in the past, I can't think of one person now that I know that still uses one for personal use.

Actually that's one of the main problems with RIM, their Marketing/PR team is the worst in the industry, they need to start there if they want to start making some changes.

 

[Neverbepeace]

I was hoping to keep aside the fanboyism of the apple heads.....

I'm not understanding the strong stance iPhone fanboys have when trying to have a civilize converstaion regarding other os's. For the life of me I cannot understand why they call bb OS stale

Apple has had the same OS going on for 4+ years......

Let's keep on topic (please fanboyism aside)

It seems rim is starting to market the Bold alot more recently. I wonder if this will at least get rim back in the ring.

 

[Jonk1183]

I notice I see a lot of thread discussing moving or coming from android devices or ios devices or even windows devices. Very rarely do you see iPhone to Blackberry lol

We all know Blackberry isn't in the greatest position right now....but their devices are not that bad (Bold 9900, 9860 ect)

Why the switch?

Since the iPhone can basically do everything a Blackberry can do and then some?. I'm assuming BBM is fading?

Share your thoughts........thanks

wtf would anyone want to do this? ill trade in my lambo for a civic...

 

[iSayuSay]

I was hoping to keep aside the fanboyism of the apple heads.....

I'm not understanding the strong stance iPhone fanboys have when trying to have a civilize converstaion regarding other os's. For the life of me I cannot understand why they call bb OS stale

Apple has had the same OS going on for 4+ years......

Let's keep on topic (please fanboyism aside)

It seems rim is starting to market the Bold alot more recently. I wonder if this will at least get rim back in the ring.

Well ... This graph shows the whole story.

(Taken from one of iOS blog article)

You're really critical about Apple siding or fanboyism on an Apple oriented forum. Aint that a bit strange? I find you being a bit of BB fanboy too despite of your statement of "not trying to be a fanboy"

Rim is dying. You mad?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I was hoping to keep aside the fanboyism of the apple heads.....

I'm not understanding the strong stance iPhone fanboys have when trying to have a civilize converstaion regarding other os's. For the life of me I cannot understand why they call bb OS stale

Apple has had the same OS going on for 4+ years......

Let's keep on topic (please fanboyism aside)

It seems rim is starting to market the Bold alot more recently. I wonder if this will at least get rim back in the ring.

BB OS is stale!!! Even RIM knows that, which is why it's being replaced with their own version of the QNX OS. Doesn't even make sense to debate about a walking dead OS.

BB phones will soon have a OS that can truly be comparable to iOS and Android. It's the hardware the will make or break RIM.

 

[Neverbepeace]

Well ... This graph shows the whole story.
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(Taken from one of iOS blog article)

You're really critical about Apple siding or fanboyism on an Apple oriented forum. Aint that a bit strange? I find you being a bit of BB fanboy too despite of your statement of "not trying to be a fanboy"

Rim is dying. You mad?

Not at all. I could care less about either platform. I always thought about forums being a place to ask questions....share experiences....ect. Didn't know if you speak against it, you face death didn't know a electronic means so much to people........now, that leaves me with my next question......are you mad?


I thought we can have a decent conversation without being disrespectful to one another. You know what's funny, not one person actually left the iPhone 4S for the new bb series

Let's keep it on topic....

 

[3lionsbecks]

Not at all. I could care less about either platform. I always thought about forums being a place to ask questions....share experiences....ect. Didn't know if you speak against it, you face death didn't know a electronic means so much to people........now, that leaves me with my next question......are you mad?


I thought we can have a decent conversation without being disrespectful to one another. You know what's funny, not one person actually left the iPhone 4S for the new bb series

Let's keep it on topic....

Not one person here. Go to Crackberry and you'll hear from many who have switched both to BB from iPhone and to Playbook from iPad

 

[Neverbepeace]

Not one person here. Go to Crackberry and you'll hear from many who have switched both to BB from iPhone and to Playbook from iPad

Lol you might be right about that

 

[entatlrg]

Much of what is said of BB here is true, they failed miserably in innovating and marketing.

But, don't discount the 9900 Bold keyboard and many other models with physical keyboards. Maybe you can or can't type faster on a Blackberry versus iPhone but for heavy email use and typing long reply's it's very comfortable and accurate to use. I have colleagues that own the 9900 and they can reply to emails without even looking at the keyboard, it's amazing. That's one solid feature rim has ... they should of emphasized the comfort and quality of their keyboards ... instead they're doing stupid "be bold" commercials.

I don't own a curve or bold anymore, I love my iPhone 4s and use siri often, that being said the Bold keyboard for heavy emailers on the go is worthy of consideration, especially if you're in an area where using something like Siri isn't a good option, for example lawyers heavily depend on their blackberry's in the courtroom, a physical keyboard in that case is a benefit.

There's some credit due there and a genuine market for those who's priority is a top quality keyboard ... that market got trumped by all the features and added things the iPhone offers... that's what go me, but still miss my blackberry keyboard.