You mean like a public apology for dropping the ball? How would that work for ya? Oh, and Apple didn't release a statement saying Ha Ha we outsmarted Google! This is just people with the intellectual capacity to recognize business savvy when they see it. Turns out its dumb to hate someone for trying to turn a negative into a positive.
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Did Apple Get Exactly What it Wanted for Users in Google Maps Spat?
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You mean like a public apology for dropping the ball? How would that work for ya? Oh, and Apple didn't release a statement saying Ha Ha we outsmarted Google! This is just people with the intellectual capacity to recognize business savvy when they see it. Turns out its dumb to hate someone for trying to turn a negative into a positive.
Yes I'm so sure that you are. I don't have to worry about whether your talking out your &&#$ or not, due to that whole critical thinking and logic thing. But seriously... I'm sure you are what you say you are! LOL Cause no one lies on the internet.
Ok. I got it. You're just interested in flamebaiting. You'll have to find someone else to play that game with.
To use Google Maps in an app would not require downloading Google Maps. The only thing that would require downloading Google Maps would be actually sending the user to Google Maps. Obviously, a good developer would check what apps are installed on the device and give the user a list of appropriate apps to open the call in. This is how many apps allow the user to open files in many other apps (dropbox, iPhoto, Pages, Keynote, etc).
It's hard to believe so many people could be making such uninformed statements. The web view is only a lower quality user experience because the display is created in web technologies which aren't up to the standards of native code. The maps data itself is the same as the data displayed in a native app. The native app experience and display of Google Maps would be much better, because it would use a native code display vs the web version.
The user does not have to download a separate app (Google Maps) in order for other developers to take advantage of Google Maps. Even if the user did download Google Maps there is no way for two apps to integrate in such a way for another app to take advantage of Google Maps.
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Apple is not one person (especially with Steve gone). Inside Apple's Byzantine management cobweb, some managers are probably much better poker players than others (such as the fired maps manager, for instance?).
Timeline of events:
- Apple release Apple Maps, having invested millions of dollars in it
- Apple admit Apple Maps is borked
- Google confirm they are working on their own solution
- Google confirm they have little hope for it being approved
- Despite all odds, Apple approve the app. (and good on them for doing so)
Lets get something clear:
- I'm very glad Apple were willing to approve the app.
- I'm very glad Google released the app.
- I'm even more glad that developers now get to choose to integrate Google Maps or Apple Maps, instead of having one or the other forced on them by Apple.
I'm not happy about this series of events being claimed as a 'victory' for anyone. This is not part of some elaborate plan that Apple conceived, it's just how everything worked out. We now have options. If Apple maps works great for you, fantastic - use it. For those outside the US who cant rely on it, we'll use Google Maps, and be just as happy with it.
From Apples point of view if they didn't approve the app, Google would have obviously made an announcement saying 'well we did make an app, but they rejected it' - that would cause even more negative publicity for Apple, so they really had no choice. Google had/has the upper hand here.
There's simply no way you can compare Google Maps and Apple Maps however - they are in a completely different league.
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You got to be kidding
This is article is as ridiculous as it can be!
How can you say that Apple would create a crap product/service, so that some else would create a BETTER one? Are you out of your mind?
If Steve Jobs was alive, the whole map team would be jobless by this time!
Only a blind person would be fooled by what this article is trying to say!
This is article is as ridiculous as it can be!
How can you say that Apple would create a crap product/service, so that some else would create a BETTER one? Are you out of your mind?
If Steve Jobs was alive, the whole map team would be jobless by this time!
Only a blind person would be fooled by what this article is trying to say!
Exactly. But please - by all means - let's go grab some popcorn and watch the tin foil hat parade!
Generally Google do provide a pretty good maps SDK and API for other platforms. You will be able to add Google-based maps to your iOS app without the user even needing Google Maps installed. There's simply no way a developer will use Apple Maps if the option to use the tried and tested Google Maps is there, especially since it's also free.
Apple sucks bad. If they intended to do some psychology on us...might as well be straight forward and remove apple's version of the map. I hate to have apps that I won't be using on my phone/ipad.
Tim knew that Steve was right about the map. They can't make maps... Steve mentioned in one of youtube video that it was better to depend on other companies that have extensive background on maps.
Tim knew that Steve was right about the map. They can't make maps... Steve mentioned in one of youtube video that it was better to depend on other companies that have extensive background on maps.
Steve is dead. Yes, even Apple can make crap, remember iOS 6? Apple Pippin? Performa Mac line? OS9? iPod HiFi? Apple 3?
Google is tried and tested though it's not perfect and it's given me outdated addresses and poor directions. It's the nature of the beast.
That being said a developer using Google's Maps over the native solution is begging and pleading for their app to deleted. Apple being the plucky upstart means they've got nothing but upside. The gap will close quicker than people think.
I'm not going to go through a bunch of steps to use Google Maps when I can just hold my phone up and tell it to take me to XYZ location.
Developers are free to re-create the wheel...and fail in the process.
It really is never going to be that complicated to switch between the two. You could probably provide both Google Maps and Apple Maps in the same app if you so desired - its not really that big of a deal to switch.
I really dont see how the gap will close quickly though. We're comparing a 100 man team to a 7,100 man team, with their own satellites, thousands of streetview cars, hundreds of UAV aircraft, and millions of users more (thus more people reporting issues).
LOL. It was not any good move... this is just some BS to actually make a defeat look like a victory.
Apple clearly wants to get rid off Google from its ecosystem, and this was one of the last moves (the next one would be the search engine... but that's rather difficult for Apple). Apple baked a poor application and got it out hoping for people to love it just because it is from Apple, and it failed.
There is no strategy, there is failure from Apple. And now, not only it is failure but public shame. Google won again, and now whatever Apple does will be useless because either it will copy Google's easiness or it will just make a try.
Accept it, or keep believing what you really want to believe... that Apple made a good move, LOL.
Great news. It's another replacement for me.
Now I've got:
Clear instead of reminders
Chrome instead of safari
Fantastical instead of calendar
Spotify instead of music
Clock and mail might next.
Now I've got:
Clear instead of reminders
Chrome instead of safari
Fantastical instead of calendar
Spotify instead of music
Clock and mail might next.
I dont think this was the "plan" all along, but either way its a win for Apple and their customers. Google wanted turn-by-turn to be one of Android's edges over the competition. Now Google has openly admitted that their new iOS app is better than the one on Android. Im glad to see it back on iOS, but I think it was a stupid move by Google.
Not Really a "Spin"
I don't think this guy is trying to say that Apple planned this from the beginning. He's just pointing out that in the end game, Google did exactly what they refused to do and users win because of it.
I don't think this guy is trying to say that Apple planned this from the beginning. He's just pointing out that in the end game, Google did exactly what they refused to do and users win because of it.
My personal objection is your word choice of refused. I suppose you could state that they refused to give TbT - but that's not the full story, is it? Talks broke down between Apple and Google about the direction of Google Maps. You could just as easily say Apple refused to allow Google TbT functionality. It would also only be part of the story.