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Did Apple intentionally allow non-developers access to iOS 7?

tymaster50 said:
Apple doesn't care and has never cared. Their pockets are lined with our cash, they're a business they couldn't give a flying f about their product, as long as it makes them money they're fine.
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oh yes they do care.
stock has plunged, they need attention.
and be sure they're monitoring review sites to some extent to check the temperature.

iOS7 is a major change to the OS, they can't afford to do it exclusively "their way" and bet their next years on a badly reviewed/received OS.
 
zerozoneice said:
oh yes they do care.
stock has plunged, they need attention.
and be sure they're monitoring review sites to some extent to check the temperature.

iOS7 is a major change to the OS, they can't afford to do it exclusively "their way" and bet their next years on a badly reviewed/received OS.
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iOS could be a pile of doo doo and you would still have hipsters buying it. the apple earpods aren't even that great and look how many people shell out the 29 + tax for it.
 
Did Apple intentionally allow non-developers access to iOS 7?

Apple simple didn't like the small economy building around selling UDID registrations.

Essentially they were enabling an underground black market that had a high potential for scamming their loyal customers.

They weighed removing the UDID restrictions with the cost to develop methods to fight the UDID selling and decided on the former, for now. The later would likely have been a costly battle of whack a mole that hit legitimate users by accident and caused bad rapport with their customers.
 
tymaster50 said:
iOS could be a pile of doo doo and you would still have hipsters buying it. the apple earpods aren't even that great and look how many people shell out the 29 + tax for it.
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Maybe not to you, but I know lots of people who love the new earpods. I hate when people state their opinions as if they're fact.
 
tmanto02 said:
It is common knowledge amongst MacRumors that anyone can install the beta versions of iOS 7 simply by downloading it and "upgrading" without being a developer.

This was also the case with previous iOS releases.

My question is whether or not Apple does this intentionally to test the OS on more devices without liability?

I say yes...


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I think it's more that there is a greater downside to trying to police this. Imagine all the ill-will that would be generated once news breaks of Apple trying to sue and fine your average kid who was caught installing IOS7 on his iphone.

They have made it pretty clear - it's a beta, you install it at your own risk, and they can't be held accountable if anything happens to your phone as a result.

To me, it's one of those things that I wouldn't go out of my way to police.
 
I think a lot of developers are only concerned with bugs, what breaks existing apps and functionality as such. In fact, I sure there will be more than a few IOS developers that only develop for the platform and don't 'use' it as such on a day to day basis.
By having non developers getting access to the beta and feeding back on forums such as this, Apple get a feel for how well it is received by a typical end user i.e. how the icons look, are the new fonts too fine etc...
 
tmanto02 said:
Try some Sony or Senheisser in-earphones and you'll never want to listen to those junk again!
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If someone likes their earpods why do they need to try something else? And just because you don't like them doesn't make them junk!
 
aimee.elizabeth said:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1594304/

You should probably edit the first part.

As for your question, I think Apple understands that power users will want to test the beta and that's why they don't completely seal off access to iOS 7 beta. But they also understand that it shouldn't be for the masses who don't understand or wouldn't function well on a beta, so they make it obscure enough that you would have to do a bit of digging before you can run the software, and all at your own risk of course.
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Edit the first part? Really?
 
Donka said:
I think a lot of developers are only concerned with bugs, what breaks existing apps and functionality as such. In fact, I sure there will be more than a few IOS developers that only develop for the platform and don't 'use' it as such on a day to day basis.
By having non developers getting access to the beta and feeding back on forums such as this, Apple get a feel for how well it is received by a typical end user i.e. how the icons look, are the new fonts too fine etc...
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If Apple wanted general feedback and opinions on the design they would have made it a public beta. But do we really want internet bloggers and forum posters designing iOS? I think betas should be for bug fixes and UI usability issues. Not, eww, I don't like the pink color theme in the music app, or the Safari icon sucks (even though it seems a lot of users here don't even use Apple's stock apps and stick them in a folder so they probably won't ever see it).
 
Rogifan said:
If Apple wanted general feedback and opinions on the design they would have made it a public beta. But do we really want internet bloggers and forum posters designing iOS? I think betas should be for bug fixes and UI usability issues. Not, eww, I don't like the pink color theme in the music app, or the Safari icon sucks (even though it seems a lot of users here don't even use Apple's stock apps and stick them in a folder so they probably won't ever see it).
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No, I don't mean as in it open it up as public but I'm sure they will be grateful for this 'free' feedback from the user only community. Things like icons or fonts changing are not the result of bug reports. A little insight from the users who are willing to go the extra mile to install this beta doesn't do Apple any harm and may well help to shape the OS.
 
aimee.elizabeth said:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1594304/

You should probably edit the first part.

As for your question, I think Apple understands that power users will want to test the beta and that's why they don't completely seal off access to iOS 7 beta. But they also understand that it shouldn't be for the masses who don't understand or wouldn't function well on a beta, so they make it obscure enough that you would have to do a bit of digging before you can run the software, and all at your own risk of course.
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I would not edit anything- people need to relax. It is a fact that they are not checking UUID and anyone, that can get ahold of the build can and should load it. If MR wants to pretend that they are protecting themselves from any liability they should consult with BGR, Apple Insider, Forbes and the Wall Street Journal because they are discussing it.

When they expanding the apple beta program to developers and did not limit to people that only had submitted apps or a proven ability to delivery one it was clear they knew what they were doing. They have a massive amount of people paying to be beta testers. It helps them and helps the end product. Now in the case of 7 I think they are playing a bit of a game. Specifically they are not only testing, but they are allowing more people so that the changes are socialized and not such a shock to the user base.
 
johndallas999 said:
Edit the first part? Really?
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pugnut said:
I would not edit anything- people need to relax. It is a fact that they are not checking UUID and anyone, that can get ahold of the build can and should load it. If MR wants to pretend that they are protecting themselves from any liability they should consult with BGR, Apple Insider, Forbes and the Wall Street Journal because they are discussing it.
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Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I personally don't care what people do with their devices, because in the end it's strictly between them and Apple. I am not a developer but am running the beta myself. I only told OP that they have a rule that forbids the discussion of the specific steps to be taken to install the beta. So don't go and get your panties in a wad. Also regardless of MR's "pretensions", this is their forum, so we follow their rules. If you want to contest their rules, contact them.
 
aimee.elizabeth said:
Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I personally don't care what people do with their devices, because in the end it's strictly between them and Apple. I am not a developer but am running the beta myself. I only told OP that they have a rule that forbids the discussion of the specific steps to be taken to install the beta. So don't go and get your panties in a wad. Also regardless of MR's "pretensions", this is their forum, so we follow their rules. If you want to contest their rules, contact them.
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Ok so let them enforce their rules, as stupid as they are- why does every poster feel it necessary to remind people.
 
pugnut said:
Ok so let them enforce their rules, as stupid as they are- why does every poster feel it necessary to remind people.
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I don't see any others reminding OP, I just did it because I assumed the OP didn't know. But I will report the post and let MR know :)
 
aimee.elizabeth said:
I don't see any others reminding OP, I just did it because I assumed the OP didn't know. But I will report the post and let MR know :)
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and that is exactly what I am talking about-Report this as well. If anyone wants to join my beta program,I am looking for testers, must sign an NDA, please PM me.
 
tmanto02 said:
Try some Sony or Senheisser in-earphones and you'll never want to listen to those junk again!
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Some of us--me--hate in-ear 'phones. I've tried a dozen different types, and none of them fit comfortably. The only things that I can use are large over the ear headphones and earbuds. And for earbuds, the Earpods have a good mix of durability, price, and performance. (I run a lot, so my choices now basically boil down to $9 earbuds that I sweat through in a month, or the Earpods with controls that last much, much longer and work well with my iPod nano.)
 
I'd guess that non-developers access to iOS 7 is not really a concern to Apple. The people who have installed the software probably have knowledge that they're installing a beta version of the software, and so does not misrepresents Apple's ability in any way. In any case, as someone has pointed out earlier, it benefits developers who have their applications out on iOS 7. Users are always more vocal when it directly affects something that they use on a daily basis. With feedback options readily available through most apps, I'd say the availability of iOS 7 to non-developers is more positive than negative.
 
Decimotox said:
But if we all know it's a beta and will get better, no one should judge negatively.
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Problem with that is people will judge it, regardless. Look at these forums and you'll see all kinds of judgement. I'm not thinking of the bug reports, I'm thinking of the people who are downright upset over how it performs thinking this is the end of the beta versions.

I don't think Apple intentionally allows non-devs to download iOS 7. In fact, I don't think they care one way or the other.
 
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