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Did Apple intentionally allow non-developers access to iOS 7?

The question in this thread implies that Apple changed something in order to open up the beta to non-developers. So what did they change?
I've only been beta testing since iOS4 so can anyone explain how it used to work? I mean what were the mechanics of it?
Right now it's pretty obvious that the Apple servers only verify the UDID upon device activation.
That happens after every restore but not after every update.
So did the servers used to verify more often?
How often?
Or is it that no one ever though to use the update rather than the restore button before?
What is it exactly that Apple is being accused of?
 
cookies! said:
No, because there's no easy access for bug reporting iOS7 for non-developers.
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I could report just fine at bugreport.apple.com without a license. They even responded to it! My only problem was that it doesn't have a file upload section in the mobile version, so can't report straight from the phone.
 
Rogifan said:
Maybe not to you, but I know lots of people who love the new earpods. I hate when people state their opinions as if they're fact.
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Yeah seriously. I personally love the new earpods. They sound really great for $29 plus the in line remote functions that companies like Klipsch and Bose put a $29 premium on.

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tmanto02 said:
Try some Sony or Senheisser in-earphones and you'll never want to listen to those junk again!
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There are tons of great in ear headphones that have amazing sound quality. However if someone needs "non noise isolating" earbuds (working in an office) The earpods are pretty much the best bang for the buck.
 
I just wish I could download and test the new Mac Pro...

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sekmet64 said:
I could report just fine at bugreport.apple.com without a license. They even responded to it! My only problem was that it doesn't have a file upload section in the mobile version, so can't report straight from the phone.
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Ironic isn't it? You would think of all companies Apple would have a robust mobile app for this.
 
Donka said:
No, I don't mean as in it open it up as public but I'm sure they will be grateful for this 'free' feedback from the user only community. Things like icons or fonts changing are not the result of bug reports. A little insight from the users who are willing to go the extra mile to install this beta doesn't do Apple any harm and may well help to shape the OS.
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Not saying it does harm but if someone wants to shape the OS go apply for a software job at Apple.
 
sekmet64 said:
I could report just fine at bugreport.apple.com without a license. They even responded to it! My only problem was that it doesn't have a file upload section in the mobile version, so can't report straight from the phone.
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Hmm, this doesn't work for me. I receive an unknown error when I use my free developer account.
 
jhfenton said:
Some of us--me--hate in-ear 'phones. I've tried a dozen different types, and none of them fit comfortably. The only things that I can use are large over the ear headphones and earbuds. And for earbuds, the Earpods have a good mix of durability, price, and performance.
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Have you tried the Bose in-ear earphones? They are a bit pricy, but they fit like nothing else. They have near-Apple level of customer service, too. They give you replacement earphones if the codes wear out, as headphone codes tend to do.

Anyway, I've never been able to keep earbuds in my ears, they just never stay in and keep falling out. So my choice had to be between over the ear headphones and in-ear earphones, and I agree, comfortable in-ears are hard to find! I went through too many before I finally decided to spend the money on Bose, and I'm ever so glad I did!
 
Night Spring said:
Have you tried the Bose in-ear earphones? They are a bit pricy, but they fit like nothing else. They have near-Apple level of customer service, too. They give you replacement earphones if the codes wear out, as headphone codes tend to do.

Anyway, I've never been able to keep earbuds in my ears, they just never stay in and keep falling out. So my choice had to be between over the ear headphones and in-ear earphones, and I agree, comfortable in-ears are hard to find! I went through too many before I finally decided to spend the money on Bose, and I'm ever so glad I did!
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I did try the Bose, but I see now that I tried what is currently labeled the "old version" on Amazon. They have mediocre-to-bad reviews that were consistent with my experience. The new IE2's do have outstanding reviews, but it had never occurred to me to try again.

I think I have small ears, because earbuds stay in very well, and even the smallest in-ears are way too big to fit in my ear canals. The Apple EarPods fit my right ear pretty well and fit my left ear like they were molded just for me. Even the $9 gummy earbuds fit me well, and they were my choice for nearly disposable running headphones until the EarPods came along. (I'm not really in a position to appreciate outstanding sound quality while running anyway.)

John
 
Kissaragi said:
Please tell the hundreds of endlessly moaning people in this forum that.
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Just because people have issues or concerns they would like to discuss on a forum that is there specifically for those reasons doesn't mean those people have some sort of misconceptions about what they are dealing with.
 
Apple famously does not fight illegal use of their software much at all. That said, it's not the policing but their policies people should honor. Apple says you should have a developer account to use iOS 7, and so honor their policy as you would want someone to honor your requests. :)
 
tymaster50 said:
Apple doesn't care and has never cared. Their pockets are lined with our cash, they're a business they couldn't give a flying f about their product, as long as it makes them money they're fine.
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I could not disagree more. To me, Apple is the only technology company (maybe the only company) that still places a premium on the user's experience. There is much attention to detail. I have not had a bad customer service experience with Apple. My iPhone, my iPads, my MacBooks, and my Apple TV all work as I expect them to, and they're solid, dependable devices. And there is no universe in which I meet the definition of a hipster. I don't buy Apple products because they are Apple products. I buy them because they work. I have a Samsung Galaxy SIII that is my work phone. The battery life is terrible. The quality of the apps are below par in comparison to iOS apps by the same developer. It's not intuitive and feels cheaply made. Is it more customizable? Yes. But you can put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig.
 
Of course they did, also allows for plausible deniability when something goes wrong and a clueless moron tries to take it in to a genius bar with iOS 7 installed when they are not a developer.

The amount of crash data and user feedback is invaluable to Apple considering the major UI overhaul.
 
I'm sure they could restrict non developers more if they wanted to. But the fact they don't shows it doesn't concern them.
 
I find the justifications here pretty interesting. "But the fact they don't shows it doesn't concern them." Not true at all. It just shows that right now they have more important things to worry about.

Listen, I couldn't care less whether a non-dev runs iOS beta, but don't for one moment justify it with phrases like "they want the beta testing" and things like that - if they really wanted a public beta, they'd offer it. You really aren't helping other than automatically sending crash logs.

The purpose of Developer Previews is not to beta test iOS. It's to allow devs to see how API and code changes will affect their apps, and give them time to adjust. Apple has plenty of people simply beta testing the OS already.

This is very much like the cop who sits in the median every morning working on his reports while cars speed by. Just because he's more busy working than checking to see if you're speeding doesn't mean he's giving you the green light to speed. It simply means that you haven't risen high enough on the to-do list to get pulled over. You take your chances - you may never get pulled over, or you may get it tomorrow.

Apple's lack of action is not a green light. It's simply a lack of action. They very well may take action tomorrow, or maybe not. However, the rules are clear.
 
BroadcastDoc said:
I find the justifications here pretty interesting. "But the fact they don't shows it doesn't concern them." Not true at all. It just shows that right now they have more important things to worry about.

Listen, I couldn't care less whether a non-dev runs iOS beta, but don't for one moment justify it with phrases like "they want the beta testing" and things like that - if they really wanted a public beta, they'd offer it. You really aren't helping other than automatically sending crash logs.

The purpose of Developer Previews is not to beta test iOS. It's to allow devs to see how API and code changes will affect their apps, and give them time to adjust. Apple has plenty of people simply beta testing the OS already.

This is very much like the cop who sits in the median every morning working on his reports while cars speed by. Just because he's more busy working than checking to see if you're speeding doesn't mean he's giving you the green light to speed. It simply means that you haven't risen high enough on the to-do list to get pulled over. You take your chances - you may never get pulled over, or you may get it tomorrow.

Apple's lack of action is not a green light. It's simply a lack of action. They very well may take action tomorrow, or maybe not. However, the rules are clear.
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All true. I would only add that it's not just that "right now they have more important things worry about", but it seems like they've been doing more important things for quite a while, given that this applied at least to iOS 6 as well, if not even prior to that. So, while this can certainly become a priority of some sort to them (I guess pretty much at any point), it definitely hasn't been one for quite a while.
 
If you could once update to one beta via itunes,apple will know that.Reporting to that,apple can't harm non-developers ,couse they are bigger number then devs,so millions have ios 7 updated for free,so the consiquences can't be undone,couse apple will loose lot of fans and money,so the same thing is jailbreaking,apple knows your idevice is jailbroken ,so it's still usable.Evereybody can use beta for free,apple can't do nothing,so just relax and enjoy the summer fallowing every next update till official;) and don't worry<3 Cheers
 
Actually, Apple *can* do something. They just haven't chosen to do so. Quite frankly I don't believe they'd have any problem disabling non-registered UUID's. I have a hard time believing they'd get a ton of bad press.

I think at this point the only thing stopping them is not wanting to deal with the support calls.
 
It' all around the money,they don't wanna loose costumers so they won't do anything.End of story!:)
 
T0mislave said:
It' all around the money,they don't wanna loose costumers so they won't do anything.End of story!:)
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While logic might imply that to be the case, none of us can know for sure. So, as mentioned, the only thing that really can be said is that they haven't done anything about it so far and it seems like they might continue not doing anything, but they can do something if they wanted to (whether or not we think they might or might not).
 
Money,Money,Money,Money And Money;)
Lot of non devs have tried it.Apple cares only for money.DON'T WORRY!BE HAPPY:)
 
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