Did Apple Lie about H.265 on 2016 MacBook Pro?

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  1. Miltz macrumors 6502a

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    After updating to High Sierra I see no change in how H.265 videos play. Apple Promised hardware support on 2016 MacBook Pros in their Keynote. Does anyone know have any info on this issue? I have a fully loaded MBP 2016 15"
     
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  3. Miltz thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yes
     
  4. EugW macrumors 603

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    Some, but not all, 8-bit h.265 4K hcv1 mp4 HVEC should work fine in QuickTime on that machine.

    hev1 flagged mp4 HVEC files won't work.
    10-bit files will stutter.
    mkv files won't work

    If you're trying to play a 10-bit file, you're out of luck, because your machine is not supported by Apple for 10-bit 4K HEVC hardware playback.
     
  5. Miltz thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Yes, I was trying to play 10bit Files. Didn't the keynote specifically say H.265 10bit?
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    http://appleinsider.com/articles/17...quality-high-file-sizes-low-for-videos-photos
     
  6. EugW macrumors 603

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    They said that 10-bit HEVC hardware playback requires 7th gen - 2017 MacBook or MacBook Pro. I can play them just fine with my 2017 MacBook Core m3 with under 25% CPU usage.

    However, the 2016 (6th gen) MacBook Pros are out of luck. Software only for 10-bit. Yes, the 2016 would get hardware acceleration, but only for 8-bit.

    hevc2.jpg

    This was laid out all very clearly by Apple. So, that AppleInsider article is pretty misleading.
     
  7. Miltz thread starter macrumors 6502a

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    Thanks for clearing it up. If my display was 10bit and I had a 10bit work flow I would be very upset. Since everything is still 8bit it’s not that big of a deal yet.
     
  8. Penlocky macrumors member

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    Whats the usual bit that 4K comes out in?
     
  9. EugW macrumors 603

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    iPhones video is 8-bit.

    Streaming video is 10-bit or can be 8-bit. However, it should be noted that there is no streaming 4K at all for Macs. And if it does come out for Macs, my expectation is that regardless if it's 10-bit or 8-bit, it will require a 2017 or later Mac anyway, for DRM reasons.
     
  10. Penlocky macrumors member

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    Sorry for asking the same question in another post.

    The HDCP 2.2 right? That is also quite a stir.
    The 2016 MBP is kind of like in the middle of a transition period isn't it? A mistake to buy!
     

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