Steve Jobs in no doubt was a genius. However he was one of the luckiest man on the world to have a rare form of pancreatic cancer that can be cured. In fact its a routine surgery. He was too stubborn to get the surgery right away and tried alternate methods to cure it. By the time he finally decided to get the surgery it was too late and the cancer spread to not only his liver but other parts of his body. Long story short, he easily could have been living today if he would have accepted surgery immediately. -just from a medical standpoint
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Did "holistic" medicine contribute to Jobs' death?
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Steve was told he had 3-6 months to live. The doctor told him to get his affairs in order. He went back and had a biopsy and found out he could have the surgery and he did. He thought he was cancer free. Watch the video of him speaking at that college graduation in 2005. He was not stubborn, he tells you the story right there on stage. Get your facts right before you bash his decisions because you don't even know what they were.
and "from a medical standpoint" you mean you watched an episode of Scrubs last night?
Im not trying to be mean but its true he..he tried solving it with holistic methods for over 9 months vs surgery its public knowledge which put him from the high end of survival to the low end
http://skeptoid.com/blog/2011/10/05/a-lesson-in-treating-illness/
http://skeptoid.com/blog/2011/10/05/a-lesson-in-treating-illness/
Also a more credible source CNN and mayo clinic explaining it
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/13/steve-jobs-life-after-the-whipple/
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Yes your right its almost garaunteed...but he had a very rare form that was curable...im not trying to troll im just making a point that its a shame a man so valuable had to die
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2008/06/13/steve-jobs-life-after-the-whipple/
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Yes your right its almost garaunteed...but he had a very rare form that was curable...im not trying to troll im just making a point that its a shame a man so valuable had to die
None of that matters. When Steve had that surgery he was cancer free. I can't believe we are even discussing this :/
Grays Anatomy!
All jokes aside, bottom line, religion aside, when its your time to go, diseases, accidents, or whatever are all excuses from God. There is no rhyme or reason why a two months old baby who has committed no sins can die, or a 90 year old with a life long disease is still living!
We should be thankful for everyday we wake up
All jokes aside, bottom line, religion aside, when its your time to go, diseases, accidents, or whatever are all excuses from God. There is no rhyme or reason why a two months old baby who has committed no sins can die, or a 90 year old with a life long disease is still living!
We should be thankful for everyday we wake up
80-90% of those with the kind of pancreatic cancer that Jobs had lives for at least 10 years after being diagnosed if they have the Whipple surgery. Some even live for decades.
The other kind of pancreatic cancer, the one that the Nobel laureate Steinman had, that's the really bad kind. 50% of those who are diagnosed with it are dead within 10 months.
Now, Jobs had access to the best care in the world. Yet he didn't live as long as 80-90% of those with his kind of pancreatic cancer. Steinman, on the other hand, lived for 4 years.
One of them beat the odds, but it wasn't Jobs.
Jobs tried alternative medicine instead of getting the surgery when first being diagnosed, he didn't get the surgery until almost a year later when the tumor was growing. Steinman, on the other hand, tried eight different experimental drugs, some that was based in part on the research that he was awarded the Nobel Prize for.
These are the facts.
I'm not his doctor, I haven't seen his journal, but really, does anyone actually believe that waiting almost a year until getting the surgery didn't affect Jobs' cancer or his chances to stay alive?
The other kind of pancreatic cancer, the one that the Nobel laureate Steinman had, that's the really bad kind. 50% of those who are diagnosed with it are dead within 10 months.
Now, Jobs had access to the best care in the world. Yet he didn't live as long as 80-90% of those with his kind of pancreatic cancer. Steinman, on the other hand, lived for 4 years.
One of them beat the odds, but it wasn't Jobs.
Jobs tried alternative medicine instead of getting the surgery when first being diagnosed, he didn't get the surgery until almost a year later when the tumor was growing. Steinman, on the other hand, tried eight different experimental drugs, some that was based in part on the research that he was awarded the Nobel Prize for.
These are the facts.
I'm not his doctor, I haven't seen his journal, but really, does anyone actually believe that waiting almost a year until getting the surgery didn't affect Jobs' cancer or his chances to stay alive?
Well thought out, well written, well informed, and rational.
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I think the thread title would be more correct stated in this manner:
Did Jobs' faith in "holistic" medicine contribute to his early death?