You don't want 5G modems right on your head... having it pair with your iPhone and use that for calling is better... and I believe it will do that out of the box.
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Did Tim Cook tell the truth about what Vision Pro can do? (video clip)
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"It can do anything your Mac or iPhone can do" should be taken in the same spirit as "and I'm thrilled to show it to you now". It's a hype line. Not entirely lacking in authenticity, but not meant to be taken literally either.
The number of apps out of the box seems to be more limited than say a Mac, and I’m not seeing anything which particularly leverages the hand tracking or AR features.
No, but legacy apps should be simple to get across with both mouse/click and touch... the accuracy of the mouse with look and click your fingers - or touch look and click your fingers...
It depends on what they make available. The porting process isn’t particularly involved for apps which run in a window, it’s true.
This is like answering "What can Windows computers do that Macs can't do?" with "Run Windows apps." The real answer is, both Windows and Macs do pretty much the same thing, so long as there are apps written for that platform. And I think that's how we should take Tim Cook's statement. That Vision OS can do pretty much everything Macs (and Windows) can do, once apps are written for that platform.
This will NOT replace an iphone. People walking around with a fugly expensive headset all day? without recharging? Not a chance.
I have a good 40yrs left on this planet and unless tech like this comes in the form of a pair of glasses and is widely adopted by the mass population I will NEVER attach anything to my face regardless of what it can do. I don’t even like over the ear headphones ha.
Well, if you’re already taking every word as pure gold, he also said „CAN“, not will. It can do all of that, he didn’t say it will.
Nah, afaik it will only stream one of your Mac's monitors to the vision, so one thing it already can't do is to losslessly display your data. So you probably won't be able to use Final Cut with 2-3 screens with a good enough quality of your 10-bit 4k preview monitor.
No Final Cut you would be dropping frames left and right.... that would not be a good candidate - not enough bandwidth for that - or watching a movie playing on the Mac either.
He said that to everyone present at the announcement of the iPhone. Have you not seen it?
The iPad Pros show that this is a somewhat hollow statement - the reason why certain app categories are not present on iPadOS is simply Apple does not allow or restricts it (e.g. programming environments, emulators, …).
IMHO it seems probable that Apple puts similar restrictions for app development on Vision OS like they do for iPadOS/iOS.
I mean, if you use it as a monitor I guess it can “do” everything a Mac can.
It's funny that we're basically 3 pages into, "Tim Cook straight-up lied about functionality, but because he did it inside of two words ("Mac or") we're gonna argue semantics."
Apple's official messaging was similar to this, in that they said it can replace your iPhone and Mac, not that it had 1:1 feature parity ("anything your Mac or iPhone can do") like in the opening post's quote.
Apple's official messaging was similar to this, in that they said it can replace your iPhone and Mac, not that it had 1:1 feature parity ("anything your Mac or iPhone can do") like in the opening post's quote.
So you’re saying it’s a journalist’s job to figure out that a statement isn’t really true? I really don’t get your reasoning here. It’s more than a stretch. A statement, even a marketing sound byte, should be at least reasonably true. If Cook had said, like he did with the iPad, something like “it can replace the laptop for many people” then that is true because it’s not an absolute. “Many” is open ended. But “it can do everything” is blatant fiction because it is absolute. If it’s not meant to be taken not literally, then he could have said that about the iPad too, but he never did.
If the VP is just displaying the Mac, and the Mac is doing the computing, then the VP cannot do everything a Mac can do. The Mac is doing it. That’s like saying a monitor can do everything a Mac can do.
He’s objectively wrong.
It’s only not black and white in that the headset is not released yet. If when it is released it does indeed do everything a Mac and iPhone can do, then he will be correct. But everything we’ve seen so far strongly indicates that won’t be the case.
Even with similar OSes like macOS and Windows, both desktop OSes, one would usually include “pretty much” as a qualifier, like you did. But not only did Cook not include any qualifier like “pretty much” or “almost” (which made his statement absolute and precise), he equated two different classes of OSes, desktop and mobile (which visionOS is, unless we all suddenly find out completely differently). It’s essentially the same as saying “iPad can do everything a Mac can do”, which no one ever says, not even anyone from Apple.
Can interface with Mac = do everything your Mac can do? That’s objectively false.
At what point does it go from “not to be taken literally” to “false statement”? Where is the line? How does the average person watching the show know that he doesn’t really mean what he said?
If it can pick up the display of my most recently purchased, still supported, $5000 Macbook Pro while it's running CAD software in Boot Camp, that's close enough to the truth for me.
But it won't be able to though, will it...
But it won't be able to though, will it...
It is called Microsoft Remote Desktop... you just need to properly license Windows Pro Version. Not sure about the CAD though - don't know how much bandwidth that will require for the Video redraw to work through Remote Desktop.