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Did we forget push notifications on the iPhone?

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dude963841

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frankly I don't care if a iPhone nano is realeased, they still need to perfect the iPhone 3G with push, Steve even told us they've been working on it. With a the hype about the new mac mini, that I will most likely buy, and such
What do u think? Push at macworld?
 
Yes...having patience would apply if Apple said "Hey, we are working on Push Notifications, but we're not quite sure when it will be ready. Keep on the watch for it." However, instead they said "Oh, we'll have push by the end of September! No question about it!" If Apple would just be honest about it, then maybe everyone would stop asking why Push is so late. The only reason it's "Late" is because Apple guaranteed a release timeframe for it.
 
the1payday said:
Yes...having patience would apply if Apple said "Hey, we are working on Push Notifications, but we're not quite sure when it will be ready. Keep on the watch for it." However, instead they said "Oh, we'll have push by the end of September! No question about it!" If Apple would just be honest about it, then maybe everyone would stop asking why Push is so late. The only reason it's "Late" is because Apple guaranteed a release timeframe for it.
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hmmmm, i dont remember the "no question part"....
 
Push will make little additional money. Nano will make lots and lots of money.

Therefore, Nano wins.
 
kas23 said:
Push will make little additional money. Nano will make lots and lots of money.

Therefore, Nano wins.
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Thread hijack = fail.

Push will come in due time. Hell, it might even be announced at MW. That might be some of the "little big" news.
 
Apple is busy porting part of the OS X time machine to iphone.
Push notifications will come with time. They already choose the new marketing name for push notifications... Sleeping Neurons will be anunced at macworld, and will be ready for october.
 
No need to forget it. Some have been using it with hardly any issues since Yahoo already offers it.

Would be nice if Gmail did as well but forwarding my emails to my Yahoo account have been perfectly fine for me up to this day. 🙂
 
Pared said:
No need to forget it. Some have been using it with hardly any issues since Yahoo already offers it.

Would be nice if Gmail did as well but forwarding my emails to my Yahoo account have been perfectly fine for me up to this day. 🙂
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Incorrect.

Push notifications are for apps.

Push email is for email.
 
Masquerade said:
Apple is busy porting part of the OS X time machine to iphone.
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Why would they even bother doing this? iTunes already makes backups when you sync your iPhone. Granted it only keeps track of the most recent backup, but I fail to see any reason why I would want to restore my iPhone with a backup taken in September...
 
PoitNarf said:
Why would they even bother doing this? iTunes already makes backups when you sync your iPhone. Granted it only keeps track of the most recent backup, but I fail to see any reason why I would want to restore my iPhone with a backup taken in September...
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I'm sure Apple is working on a method of convergence in terms of iTunes backups, MobileMe syncs, and Time Machine restore capabilities. I suspect all of these independent pieces will converge in some way in the not too distant future.
 
My guess is that they will release a new iphone aka Nano with the new updated firmware in it. So we will have to wait unitl the Nano is avail in stores for our firmware update. Similar to 2.0 and the 3G iphone.
 
richxps said:
My guess is that they will release a new iphone aka Nano with the new updated firmware in it. So we will have to wait unitl the Nano is avail in stores for our firmware update. Similar to 2.0 and the 3G iphone.
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Anyhow ...

I think Phil will give us a "We're making progress" update and make a tentative launch for Summer '09. Devs will maybe get a new SDK a week after MacWorld with the Push stuff in it, so that apps can be ready for the summer.

My 2 cents on the issue.
 
PoitNarf said:
Incorrect.

Push notifications are for apps.

Push email is for email.
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It's the same thing: a server based technology that notifies the end user of a change in their application status. Email is an app, is it not?

If you'd like to argue semantics, have fun with yourself. 😉
 
Pared said:
It's the same thing: a server based technology that notifies the end user of a change in their application status. Email is an app, is it not?

If you'd like to argue semantics, have fun with yourself. 😉
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Except the end result is different. Push notifications are going to have to carry everything from IMs to task alarms. Bigger than just email notifications.
 
Pared said:
It's the same thing: a server based technology that notifies the end user of a change in their application status. Email is an app, is it not?

If you'd like to argue semantics, have fun with yourself. 😉
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Well sure when you boil it down to the very simplistic definition it's pretty similar. But if it's the same thing then how come the iPhone can't do it currently? It can do push email just fine, just not push anything else.
 
Pared said:
It's the same thing: a server based technology that notifies the end user of a change in their application status. Email is an app, is it not?

If you'd like to argue semantics, have fun with yourself. 😉
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ok but the technology isn't wrapped up like push mail. if you setup n push mail accounts, you have to mainting 3 separate persistent connections to 3 servers.

push notifications will have one persistent connection for various servers because there's one proxy (apple responsability) that is setup to do the polling with the party servers.
 
Pared said:
It's the same thing: a server based technology that notifies the end user of a change in their application status. Email is an app, is it not?
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Yes, the name and actions are similar, but they're not the same thing (yet).

Push email is currently available.

Push notifications for other apps are not available, and they are what the thread is about.
 
If we do see push notifications tomorrow, I think we will also see iChat as the demo to show off the notifications. I think it may work like blackberry messenger which is constantly running- doubtful though 🙁
 
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