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Why would they even bother doing this? iTunes already makes backups when you sync your iPhone. Granted it only keeps track of the most recent backup, but I fail to see any reason why I would want to restore my iPhone with a backup taken in September...

I may be wrong, but if your time machine saves daily backups, wouldn't it automatically also store all the old iPhone back ups within normal time machine? Or are they inaccessible or something ...
 
Push notification: delayed till WWDC 2009

Here's a thing...

(and I have repeated this hundreds of times)

Apple wants to avoid another iPocalypse, when push notification is turned on, so many push request might be sent that the entire iTunes server crashes because of this, preventing iPhone activation and etc.

So, JUST ***** RELAX....

Let Apple fix the issue, one VERY baby steps at a time...

Otherwise, play hopscotch, or other things other than spending time with iPhone.
 
Here's a thing...

(and I have repeated this hundreds of times)

Apple wants to avoid another iPocalypse, when push notification is turned on, so many push request might be sent that the entire iTunes server crashes because of this, preventing iPhone activation and etc.

So, JUST ***** RELAX....

Let Apple fix the issue, one VERY baby steps at a time...

Otherwise, play hopscotch, or other things other than spending time with iPhone.

That's an extremely weak argument indeed. Sure it may work for a couple of weeks but Steve Jobs stated that the service was due for launch in September 08 - two months after the iPhone 3G was released.

I dare say that some people purchased the iPhone in the belief that that functionality would be available so they would get instant alerts whenever they received an IM, were outbid on an eBay item, or when a friend using Fring was nearby.

The feature we're talking about has the potential to be absolutely fantastic and was, no doubt, a driving force behind some people's decisions to buy the iPhone. It's not a cheap device and this isn't a minor missing feature. We're now four months past the announced launch date with little or no information and that is very very wrong of Apple.
 
I dare say that some people purchased the iPhone in the belief that that functionality would be available so they would get instant alerts whenever they received an IM, were outbid on an eBay item, or when a friend using Fring was nearby.

I will admit that when I got my iPhone, I told my Blackberry toting friends that the iPhone's souped up IM-style service was coming soon.

I've given up saying that. Honestly, I'm not convinced we'll see it this year. Seriously. (Though Summer would be a nice treat)
 
I dare say that some people purchased the iPhone in the belief that that functionality would be available so they would get instant alerts whenever they received an IM, were outbid on an eBay item, or when a friend using Fring was nearby.

I bought the iphone after seeing push notifications announced.
Apple makes people clap about their missfortune! Good that is the last keynote.
 
I will admit that when I got my iPhone, I told my Blackberry toting friends that the iPhone's souped up IM-style service was coming soon.

I've given up saying that. Honestly, I'm not convinced we'll see it this year. Seriously. (Though Summer would be a nice treat)

just buy time with alcohol. all the hype i build up myself about push notification has yet to be brought up to my friends.

also..they probably dont care.
 
Ok, I'll bite. What about push notifications is ridiculous?

You mean other than the idea that most people's time and lives are so important that they need to be always-reachable and always-notifiable rightthisveryminute?

Nothing at all.
 
with no mention of it during the keynote, the hope for push notification has disappeared like a fart in the wind.
 
You mean other than the idea that most people's time and lives are so important that they need to be always-reachable and always-notifiable rightthisveryminute?

Nothing at all.

Ah, then why bother carrying a phone around with you at all then? What you described is the very essence of a mobile phone.
 
That's an extremely weak argument indeed. Sure it may work for a couple of weeks but Steve Jobs stated that the service was due for launch in September 08 - two months after the iPhone 3G was released.

I dare say that some people purchased the iPhone in the belief that that functionality would be available so they would get instant alerts whenever they received an IM, were outbid on an eBay item, or when a friend using Fring was nearby.

The feature we're talking about has the potential to be absolutely fantastic and was, no doubt, a driving force behind some people's decisions to buy the iPhone. It's not a cheap device and this isn't a minor missing feature. We're now four months past the announced launch date with little or no information and that is very very wrong of Apple.

This is not a weak argument. It is real. From what I have know, the Push Notification goes from the service's server, then to iTunes store server (to verify that you have legitamate copy of the app) then to your iPhone or iPod touch. However, too much notification goes in, it will crash iTunes, since it goes through iTunes.

The app store update is done via push notification. Many people do not realize this, but after couple of days, if the user has not opened the App Store.app on their iPhone or iPod touch, the app automatically checks for the update via push notification service. The App Store.app push notification needs to go through iTunes, since apps are found in iTunes, but also to verify that you have legitimate copy of the apps. This is how you get the app number thing on the app store.app icon sometimes.
 
This is not a weak argument. It is real. From what I have know, the Push Notification goes from the service's server, then to iTunes store server (to verify that you have legitamate copy of the app) then to your iPhone or iPod touch. However, too much notification goes in, it will crash iTunes, since it goes through iTunes.

The app store update is done via push notification. Many people do not realize this, but after couple of days, if the user has not opened the App Store.app on their iPhone or iPod touch, the app automatically checks for the update via push notification service. The App Store.app push notification needs to go through iTunes, since apps are found in iTunes, but also to verify that you have legitimate copy of the apps. This is how you get the app number thing on the app store.app icon sometimes.

many people do not realize then.
 
Ok, I'll bite. What about push notifications is ridiculous?

Personally, I thought the idea of Apple controlling every aspect of push by owning all the servers was ridiculous. Beejive got it exactly right, in my opinion. It works perfectly and Apple has no say in any aspect of it. Which is probably why it works perfectly. Apple couldn't launch either model of iPhone without total disaster, I seriously doubt their push plan would be any better. What wouldn't be ridiculous would be Apple selling "push software" and/or "push hardware"....something you put in your room, using your bandwidth and maintained by your IT people. I totally applaud Beejive for thumbing their nose and doing it their way.
 
What does your belief have to do with anyone else? :confused:

Some people don't need a mobile phone, and some do. Some people don't need real time notifications of emails or message, and some do.

Not only that, but 'need' isn't even a factor here. It's perfectly OK to want something that the company promised, but has yet to deliver. No one needs to justify to anyone else here why they want this feature.
 
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