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You forgot the amazing 6+ loudspeaker and of course battery life. Otherwise give me an iPhone 5, it's a far better device overall.
I don't know about loudspeaker. Haven't noticed anything special about it. Battery life really is great.
 
The last two none S models have had bumps in screen size. I doubt screen size changes next year, probably no change in ram. What will they add? Maybe the 7 will have an even bigger beast of a processor with more cores, base model with 32 gig, major battery improvements, then we will ask again who feels hosed... Lol

Getting outdated by next year's model isn't being hosed, as in the context of this thread. That happens every year and is normal.

The point of this thread is the 6+ simply wasn't powerful enough (in terms of processing power and also memory) to cope with the resolution bump to 1980x1080 (well actually 2208x1242 if you look into it) and because of this is experiencing slow down akin to a two or three year old device as opposed to the one year old device it actually is.

The 6s+ however is an absolute speed demon and will outlast the 6+ by a number of years.
 
Don't know why I read these forums. I go through life perfectly happy with my phone. It does everything I need and ask of it. No problems whatsoever. Then I come on here and am told what a piece of junk it really is and that I am too stupid to realize this.

If you're happy with it then there's no problem :cool:
 
Getting outdated by next year's model isn't being hosed, as in the context of this thread. That happens every year and is normal.

The point of this thread is the 6+ simply wasn't powerful enough (in terms of processing power and also memory) to cope with the resolution bump to 1980x1080 (well actually 2208x1242 if you look into it) and because of this is experiencing slow down akin to a two or three year old device as opposed to the one year old device it actually is.

The 6s+ however is an absolute speed demon and will outlast the 6+ by a number of years.

there probably isn't an app on the app store that pushes the A8 processor to its limits, I'd bet the 6 will be as fine in two years as the iphone 5 is now. The safari tab power user is a RAM limitation, up until Friday every iphone user lived with it. Its not really an issue, yea I saw the video, but not many open that many tabs on a phone.
 
Don't know why I read these forums. I go through life perfectly happy with my phone. It does everything I need and ask of it. No problems whatsoever. Then I come on here and am told what a piece of junk it really is and that I am too stupid to realize this.

Anytime I think that /r/apple on Reddit is being too negative I come here and get a taste of what real negativity and pessimism is. Then /r/apple feels positively uplifting.
 
there probably isn't an app on the app store that pushes the A8 processor to its limits, I'd bet the 6 will be as fine in two years as the iphone 5 is now. The safari tab power user is a RAM limitation, up until Friday every iphone user lived with it. Its not really an issue, yea I saw the video, but not many open that many tabs on a phone.

I only ever had a couple of tabs and a couple of apps open on my 6+ due to the severe RAM limitations and it still reloaded them all. It was a poor video if convincing the naysayers was its intention.
 
there probably isn't an app on the app store that pushes the A8 processor to its limits, I'd bet the 6 will be as fine in two years as the iphone 5 is now. The safari tab power user is a RAM limitation, up until Friday every iphone user lived with it. Its not really an issue, yea I saw the video, but not many open that many tabs on a phone.

I would like to think that's true but I just don't, sorry. The 6 is the natural progression of the iPhone line, and as we all know iPhone's get slower the more you update them. The 6 will be no different, and will fall in line with the slow down we're all used to with iPhones over time. Despite this, you're usually good for the first year's update. The slowdown usually starts to happen at the two year mark, then worse with the third year. Don't even bother with year four or five. That's when it get's to practically unusable status (See iPhone 4S on iOS 8 or 9)

Now the 6+ has to power almost 3x the pixels compared to the 6, yet the internals for all intents and purposes are pretty much identical, so it stands to reason that the 6+ will slow down quicker than the regular iPhone line - and this has already started to happen just one year in, the one update that shouldn't make much of a difference - yet it is.

Therefore I stand by what I said. I think the 6+ will be prematurely hit unusable by year three, and the regular iP6 by year four, so 2017 & 2018 respectively. I believe the low RAM will be the main factor in this, followed by the A8 - purely because of the number of pixels it has to push.

The 6S however (not the plus) will reach 2021 IMO before becoming unusable. I genuinely think it will be the iPhone with the longest usability to date.

It'll be interesting to read this back in a few years to see if I was right.
 
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iPad Air 1 doesn't run "fine" on iOS 8 or 9. It runs noticeably worse than the 6 Plus.
What? Where is this coming from? Typing this now from my iPad Air running iOS 9 and the performance is exceptional! (Unless by saying it didn't run "fine" you meant that it runs "great")
I have absolutely no problems with this device and am happy knowing I have no reason to upgrade for at least another year.
Are you talking about how Safari tabs have to reload sometimes? If so big deal. Do you have anything else that the iPad Air has trouble with?
 
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I would like to think that's true but I just don't, sorry. The 6 is the natural progression of the iPhone line, and as we all know iPhone's get slower the more you update them. The 6 will be no different, and will fall in line with the slow down we're all used to with iPhones over time. Despite this, you're usually good for the first year's update. The slowdown usually starts to happen at the two year mark, then worse with the third year. Don't even bother with year four or five. That's when it get's to practically unusable status (See iPhone 4S on iOS 8 or 9)

Now the 6+ has to power almost 3x the pixels compared to the 6, yet the internals for all intents and purposes are pretty much identical, so it stands to reason that the 6+ will slow down quicker than the regular iPhone line - and this has already started to happen just one year in, the one update that shouldn't make much of a difference - yet it is.

Therefore I stand by what I said. I think the 6+ will be prematurely hit unusable by year three, and the regular iP6 by year four, so 2017 & 2018 respectively. I believe the low RAM will be the main factor in this, followed by the A8 - purely because of the number of pixels it has to push.

The 6S however (not the plus) will reach 2021 IMO before becoming unusable. I genuinely think it will be the iPhone with the longest usability to date.

It'll be interesting to read this back in a few years to see if I was right.

I disagree. I think the iPhone 7S in 2017 will have the longest lifespan probably lasting until 2025 at least!
 
6S is what the 6 should've been so, yes, 6 owners got shafted with not only A8 but also 1GB DRAM reloads and lower build quality due to cheap aluminum. I'd be writing Cook and demanding a replacement with 6S.
 
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Just make note: When Apple doesn't directly compare the new chip to the old, pass on upgrading. Don't bother.

yea even if you want the larger screen. the iphone 6 upgrade was about the larger screen sizes that apple at one time said we didn't need or didnt want
 
What? Where is this coming from? Typing this now from my iPad Air running iOS 9 and the performance is exceptional! (Unless by saying it didn't run "fine" you meant that it runs "great")
I have absolutely no problems with this device and am happy knowing I have no reason to upgrade for at least another year.
Are you talking about how Safari tabs have to reload sometimes? If so big deal. Do you have anything else that the iPad Air has trouble with?
How about stuttering in the app switcher? Random keyboard lag? These things affect every iPad Air. Whether you notice them or don't care about them is another story altogether.
 
The fact that in last years keynote, when talking about the A8 performance, they had to go all the way back to the original iPhone as said it's 80x faster than the 3G or something silly like that - showing off some upward sloping graph. They didn't even directly compare it to the 5S! This year, they made a note to compare the 6S to the 6 directly. And I was watching for it.

You know, I caught on as well with that. I also caught on when they did the same thing in this year's keynote. I always thought the 6 was slow, that's why I upgraded to 6S and I definitely don't regret it. 2GB RAM future proofs this ****.
 
Further evidence that the S generation is the better upgrade cycle to be in.

Not only do you get a refined and fixed case design but you get significantly upgraded internals and shorter waiting times to boot.

The non S versions always had design issues. Antenna-gate, bend gate, scratch-gate etc etc. They are pretty much only good for show-off and bragging rights.
 
The iPhone 6 models perform very well in my personal hands on experience. After a year, they're still an excellent phone.

The two iPhone 6S Plus models I have now are also excellent.

Are the newer phones faster? Sure they are.

But to say iPhone 6 owners got hosed is just wrong.

I never hesitate to share a positive or negative experience with Apple products, but to claim they deliberately did something to victimize their customers is akin to slandering the company.

Apple is not that kind of company. Period.
 
there probably isn't an app on the app store that pushes the A8 processor to its limits, I'd bet the 6 will be as fine in two years as the iphone 5 is now. The safari tab power user is a RAM limitation, up until Friday every iphone user lived with it. Its not really an issue, yea I saw the video, but not many open that many tabs on a phone.

You don't need to have a bunch of tabs open for it to reload like crazy, 2 or 3 open and it will start to do it when you switch from them.
 
Further evidence that the S generation is the better upgrade cycle to be in.

Not only do you get a refined and fixed case design but you get significantly upgraded internals and shorter waiting times to boot.

The non S versions always had design issues. Antenna-gate, bend gate, scratch-gate etc etc. They are pretty much only good for show-off and bragging rights.

Antenna gate had very little affect on my iPhone 4

I've had my iPhone 6+ for a year (launch day) and it's still not bent.

Scratch gate..? Really? How can you even say that's an issue. Everything scratches
 
Scratch gate..? Really? How can you even say that's an issue. Everything scratches

It's true that any iPhone can get scratched, but the black/slate iPhone 5's anodizing seemed much more prone to damage than previous iPhones (and iPod mini).

I don't think Apple would have gone to the trouble of creating "Space Gray" as a replacement if the Black/Slate finish didn't have problems.
 
The downside to designing an awesome chip nearly 2x as fast as the last one: People who look to find fault with everything then complain that their phones are "slow" in comparison.

A8 is an awesome chip, faster than A7 (substantially so in GPU). 6 Plus notwithstanding the iPhone 6 is a great phone, and the 6 Plus is still pretty good. If you wanted substantial CPU and GPU you should've bought during an S year, the iphone 4S to 5 jump was similarly small and the iphone 5 was similarly WAY SLOWER than the 5s.

If anything, the iphone 5 is by far the shortest enjoyable iphone because by next year you had touch ID and 2x the processor speed along with 64 bit.
 
How about stuttering in the app switcher? Random keyboard lag? These things affect every iPad Air. Whether you notice them or don't care about them is another story altogether.
Just opened the app switcher and it didn't stutter. I am typing this on the keyboard with no lag. I am tempted to upload a video for you. Even if it stuttered a little bit when switching apps I don't think that would qualify as running poorly.
 
If you wanted substantial CPU and GPU you should've bought during an S year, the iphone 4S to 5 jump was similarly small and the iphone 5 was similarly WAY SLOWER than the 5s.

People keep saying this, but go back and look at the iPhone 5 vs. 4S benchmarks at Anandtech.

The A6 is 2x as fast as the A5 in almost all applications.

This is the reason that iPhone 5 can easily run iOS 9, while the 4S has struggled since iOS 8.
 
Just opened the app switcher and it didn't stutter. I am typing this on the keyboard with no lag. I am tempted to upload a video for you. Even if it stuttered a little bit when switching apps I don't think that would qualify as running poorly.
Open 5 or 6 apps. Swipe around a bit in the app switcher and then tap on the home screen.
 
I did feel that the 6/6+ were underpowered right when they were announced. Barely any GPU improvement to accommodate larger screen sizes? It seemed like the 3GS to 4 transition where the A4 barely had an GPU improvement to handle all the extra pixels. Of course, the 6/6+ didn't face such a huge transition, but it was a noticeable one nonetheless.

Glad I waited for the 6s+. I love mine :)
 
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